Twitter 11/3 - Sockness manipulating Chris to trust only him; Chris turns against Null

Anna bailed when Chris needed her during the idea guy stuff because null's involvement freaked her out. Rocky's probably hard to get ahold of, idk.
I mean, next to someone calling the police on Chris during an irl spergout, I don't think anyone has the opportunity to really convice a hospital that he needs to be institutionalized. Perhaps if someone called on a suicide check that might work if Chris started spouting nonsense and assaulted an officer that came to check, but that's an unlikely situation.
 
so does that mean Mia hamm did leave the job out of disgust?
No, and that theory was a really spergy one and the people sincerely believing it are dumbasses. Hookers deal with way worse johns than Chris (at least Chris back then), both in grossness and in malicious perversion (bdsm sadists, people with just extreme fetishes, etc). In fact, Chris was probably one of the better johns, because he's an inexperienced manchild who doesn't know how to get his money's worth. She could probably get him to nut himself in five minutes and spend the rest of the hour letting him ramble about Sonichu at her. (Much better than having him sweat and huff and puff his fat gut on top of her for the full hour. )

She probably just pulled her ad and moved to a new town. She probably didn't spend too much time in any one place.
I mean, next to someone calling the police on Chris during an irl spergout, I don't think anyone has the opportunity to really convice a hospital that he needs to be institutionalized. Perhaps if someone called on a suicide check that might work if Chris started spouting nonsense and assaulted an officer that came to check, but that's an unlikely situation.
Because Chris has a recorded history of self harm (he went to the hospital for it) in connection with his delusional beliefs, she probably could get power of attorney or something like that. It's possible, it'd just take a busybody with a lot of time pestering the right authorities for a bit.
 
There was an experimental welfare program in Germany to deal with people like Chris, it yielded great results but unfortunately World War 2 stopped in from continuation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_T4

My grandfather worked in Aktion T4 and he said the cure rate was 100%, something which has never been achieved to that date. After the war, my family was forced to change their name and flee to [redacted] where my father was a sheriff in a small town. He said when they picked up mentally ill people for loitering they'd just hose them down with the firehose and then leave them in a refrigerated meat locker overnight. Once again, 100% clear-up rate for mental illness. Both of them were eventually stopped by the human rights lobby which was sad. My father had to change the family name and flee from [redacted] to [redacted]. He was a kindly old man who would weep when he saw mentally ill people he was prevented from helping on the street. He supported the family by getting a job at a medical research lab where he euthanased bunnies. He told me like mentally ill people, bunnies have terrible, stressful lives and death came as something of a relief to them.
 
My goal is also to stick to a strict view of insanity based on a legal grounding. I do believe Chris qualifies because of how far reaching Chris' delusions are.

Not all mental illnesses take the form of auditory or visual hallucinations. Think of things like dementia. In some cases, mere delusional thoughts can qualify if they're severe enough.

I believe that in some situations in his life, Chris qualifies as insane because he's got brain problems that leave him mentally incapable of perceiving reality the way that the rest of us do. That's a legal standard for insanity.
While I agree I think it’d be extremely difficult to get Chris diagnosed as having a mental health condition because many symptoms of things like say schizoid personality disorder overlap with autism and unless Chris is openly telling a mental health professional about how he cuts his taint because he thinks there’s a vagina growing underneath or how the merge is coming soon and he’s willing to go to drastic lengths to make sure it does then I don’t think a professional will be too eager to diagnose Chris until it’s too late and he’s already done something drastic.
 
While I agree I think it’d be extremely difficult to get Chris diagnosed as having a mental health condition because many symptoms of things like say schizoid personality disorder overlap with autism and unless Chris is openly telling a mental health professional about how he cuts his taint because he thinks there’s a vagina growing underneath or how the merge is coming soon and he’s willing to go to drastic lengths to make sure it does then I don’t think a professional will be too eager to diagnose Chris until it’s too late and he’s already done something drastic.
I think it'd be pretty easy to get Chris to spill the beans on what happened. Chris believes in his magic and he thinks he can demonstrate it. It's why he makes those videos where he tips the crystals in his hand. He thinks he's doing it with his mind.
 
Was there/is there any way someone can justvpush Chris towards an involuntary institutionalization at the mental health ward at a nearby hospital or he just kind of stuck like this? I imagine somewhere out there someone who still feels bad would gladly be the catalyst for him getting committed.

It's DAMN hard to get someone committed to a psychiatric institution in this day and age. In Vancouver (and most places in North America afaik) the hospital doors were opened and all the crazies kicked onto the streets in the 1980s in the name of 'saving money'. Unless someone is a violent danger to others (and maybe to themselves) its extremely difficult to get someone put under involuntary care in North America.

More evidence the wrong side won, perhaps? Hehe...

Let's not get fucking stupid here.
 
I think it'd be pretty easy to get Chris to spill the beans on what happened. Chris believes in his magic and he thinks he can demonstrate it. It's why he makes those videos where he tips the crystals in his hand. He thinks he's doing it with his mind.
Yes, but that's not uncommon behavior for the autistics. Personally, I don't think Chris is stupid, and I agree with @Pickle Inspector , he's not telling the truth to professionals. Unless you're physically in the room witnessing Chris talk about it first hand, I wouldn't trust what he says or what anyone close to him says. He knows not to trust professionals from a very young age when they threatened to have his ass put away. His parents justified it as, you're smart, you're beautiful, they're jealous, of course they want to put you away. I'm sure he holds the same mentality unless it accommodates one of his ulterior motives. The professionals were all right, though.
 
Yes, but that's not uncommon behavior for the autistics. Personally, I don't think Chris is stupid, and I agree with @Pickle Inspector , he's not telling the truth to professionals. Unless you're physically in the room witnessing Chris talk about it first hand, I wouldn't trust what he says or what anyone close to him says. He knows not to trust professionals from a very young age when they threatened to have his ass put away. His parents justified it as, you're smart, you're beautiful, they're jealous, of course they want to put you away. I'm sure he holds the same mentality unless it accommodates one of his ulterior motives. The professionals were all right, though.
Because the magic is "real" and he can demonstrate it, I don't think Chris would have any problem telling professionals about it. I think you underestimate the level of confidence Chris has in his belief in this shit. It's not even a question of it being a "belief" to him, it's simply reality to Chris. Because of this, he wouldn't think a professional is a threat. To Chris, telling them about magic is on par with him telling them that it's raining outside. What's there to fear?
 
Chris needs a group home, not institutionalization. The only way he is going to go to one of those is voluntarily. In a group home, he would be socialized into real world interaction. Sickness wouldn't have access to him any more. Trolls wouldn't be exploiting him any more. He wouldn't get himself in trouble with credit cards or legal problems. I think the best chance of that happening would have been if Rocky had been able to set it up. But Bob and Barb would never have allowed that. They wanted Chris to have a "normal life". Looking back on Chris's life, they didn't even come close to achieving that goal. If Chris is lucky, Rocky is just standing in the wings until Barb passes and then she will step back in. But it's hard to imagine that she isn't fed up with the whole circus too. Chris may be left to find his own bottom when Barb is dead and the creditors pounce on what's left.
 
Chris needs a group home, not institutionalization. The only way he is going to go to one of those is voluntarily. In a group home, he would be socialized into real world interaction. Sickness wouldn't have access to him any more. Trolls wouldn't be exploiting him any more. He wouldn't get himself in trouble with credit cards or legal problems. I think the best chance of that happening would have been if Rocky had been able to set it up. But Bob and Barb would never have allowed that. They wanted Chris to have a "normal life". Looking back on Chris's life, they didn't even come close to achieving that goal. If Chris is lucky, Rocky is just standing in the wings until Barb passes and then she will step back in. But it's hard to imagine that she isn't fed up with the whole circus too. Chris may be left to find his own bottom when Barb is dead and the creditors pounce on what's left.
I dont think the creditors even want to deal with chris, they may just come to visit him every once in a while to see if he kicked the bucket so they can finally get what they are owed withough dealing with the autistic tranny manchild
 
Because the magic is "real" and he can demonstrate it, I don't think Chris would have any problem telling professionals about it. I think you underestimate the level of confidence Chris has in his belief in this shit. It's not even a question of it being a "belief" to him, it's simply reality to Chris. Because of this, he wouldn't think a professional is a threat. To Chris, telling them about magic is on par with him telling them that it's raining outside. What's there to fear?
Since Chris believes in his "powers", it should be tested by fighting against an MMA fighter: Raw strength vs psychic ability.
 
Since Chris believes in his "powers", it should be tested by fighting against an MMA fighter: Raw strength vs psychic ability.

Somehow these tend to always go in favor of the people who train actual fighting rather than the bullshido masters claiming to have cartoon superpowers 🤔 But maybe none of them had true and honest powers Chris has, only way to know is to pit him against another fellow female in his weight class, I think Gabi Garcia would be perfect
 
I dont think the creditors even want to deal with chris, they may just come to visit him every once in a while to see if he kicked the bucket so they can finally get what they are owed withough dealing with the autistic tranny manchild

I meant to refer to the mortgage. When Barb dies, they won't allow the debt to be transferred to Chris. The house will be cleared out and sold as is and probably won't even cover the debt. Chris will be left without a place to live and no money except the tugboat. Anyone who gives a credit card to Chris deserves what they get.
 
Somehow these tend to always go in favor of the people who train actual fighting rather than the bullshido masters claiming to have cartoon superpowers 🤔 But maybe none of them had true and honest powers Chris has, only way to know is to pit him against another fellow female in his weight class, I think Gabi Garcia would be perfect
You can take any woman off the street and they can kick Chris’ ass easily.
 
Chris needs a group home, not institutionalization. The only way he is going to go to one of those is voluntarily. In a group home, he would be socialized into real world interaction. Sickness wouldn't have access to him any more. Trolls wouldn't be exploiting him any more. He wouldn't get himself in trouble with credit cards or legal problems. I think the best chance of that happening would have been if Rocky had been able to set it up. But Bob and Barb would never have allowed that. They wanted Chris to have a "normal life". Looking back on Chris's life, they didn't even come close to achieving that goal. If Chris is lucky, Rocky is just standing in the wings until Barb passes and then she will step back in. But it's hard to imagine that she isn't fed up with the whole circus too. Chris may be left to find his own bottom when Barb is dead and the creditors pounce on what's left
That's just not true. Group homes in America are assisted living facilities. People would still have access to Chris from the outside, and I'm sure people would go to great lengths to get access to him. On top of that, Chris is an asshole, who believes he is above a group home. He would probably throw tantrums every day until he was kicked out on his arse and, he would try running away. No, he needs to be confined in a crazy house and shouted down every single time he says or does something stupid.
 
For Chris to be committed against his will, he would have to repeatedly try to commit suicide or start assaulting people. I think those two things are much more unlikely than someone like Rocky convincing him he has nowhere else to go. A group home will start out by making him sign a contract that says if he doesn't behave in a compliant manner, he will be out on the street with no money, no internet and no toys. Chris wants a comfortable place to sleep. I doubt he'll be able to manage that without compromising.
 
For Chris to be committed against his will, he would have to repeatedly try to commit suicide or start assaulting people. I think those two things are much more unlikely than someone like Rocky convincing him he has nowhere else to go. A group home will start out by making him sign a contract that says if he doesn't behave in a compliant manner, he will be out on the street with no money, no internet and no toys. Chris wants a comfortable place to sleep. I doubt he'll be able to manage that without compromising.
Not saying that he will be, just that he should be.
 
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Anna bailed when Chris needed her during the idea guy stuff because null's involvement freaked her out. Rocky's probably hard to get ahold of, idk.
Would Anna being fully on board have changed the outcome? Chris had Rocky who just directed him to therapy anyway. And Chris later had the Therapeutic Docket shrink that he babbled about his imaginary friends and the Merge to, but nothing came of that either.

Because Chris has a recorded history of self harm (he went to the hospital for it) in connection with his delusional beliefs, she probably could get power of attorney or something like that. It's possible, it'd just take a busybody with a lot of time pestering the right authorities for a bit.
It's weird that Chris's Teflon Tard power even allowed him to walk away from the taint wound without getting put into a psych hold.
 
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