US U.S. judge overturns California’s ban on assault weapons

U.S. judge overturns California’s ban on assault weapons​

DON THOMPSON
Fri, June 4, 2021, 9:24 PM
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A federal judge Friday overturned California’s three-decade-old ban on assault weapons, ruling that it violates the constitutional right to bear arms.
U.S. District Judge Roger Benitez of San Diego ruled that the state’s definition of illegal military-style rifles unlawfully deprives law-abiding Californians of weapons commonly allowed in most other states and by the U.S. Supreme Court.

“Under no level of heightened scrutiny can the law survive," Benitez said. He issued a permanent injunction against enforcement of the law but stayed it for 30 days to give state Attorney General Rob Bonta time to appeal.

Gov. Gavin Newsom condemned the decision, calling it “a direct threat to public safety and the lives of innocent Californians, period."

In his 94-page ruling, the judge spoke favorably of modern weapons, said they were overwhelmingly used for legal reasons.

“Like the Swiss Army knife, the popular AR-15 rifle is a perfect combination of home defense weapon and homeland defense equipment. Good for both home and battle," the judge said in his ruling's introduction.

That comparison “completely undermines the credibility of this decision and is a slap in the face to the families who’ve lost loved ones to this weapon," Newsom said in a statement. “We’re not backing down from this fight, and we’ll continue pushing for common sense gun laws that will save lives.”

Bonta called the ruling flawed and said it will be appealed.

California first restricted assault weapons in 1989, with multiple updates to the law since then.

Assault weapons as defined by the law are more dangerous than other firearms and are disproportionately used in crimes, mass shootings and against law enforcement, with more resulting casualties, the state attorney general’s office argued, and barring them “furthers the state’s important public safety interests.”

Further, a surge in sales of more than 1.16 million other types of pistols, rifles and shotguns in the last year — more than a third of them to likely first-time buyers — show that the assault weapons ban “has not prevented law-abiding citizens in the state from acquiring a range of firearms for lawful purposes, including self-defense,” the state contended in a court filing in March.
Similar assault weapon restrictions have previously been upheld by six other federal district and appeals courts, the state argued. Overturning the ban would allow not only assault rifles, but things like assault shotguns and assault pistols, state officials said.
But Benitez disagreed.

“This case is not about extraordinary weapons lying at the outer limits of Second Amendment protection. The banned ‘assault weapons’ are not bazookas, howitzers, or machine guns. Those arms are dangerous and solely useful for military purposes," his ruling said.

Despite California's ban, there currently are an estimated 185,569 assault weapons registered with the state, the judge said.

“This is an average case about average guns used in average ways for average purposes," the ruling said. “One is to be forgiven if one is persuaded by news media and others that the nation is awash with murderous AR-15 assault rifles. The facts, however, do not support this hyperbole, and facts matter."

“In California, murder by knife occurs seven times more often than murder by rifle," he added.

In a preliminary ruling in September, Benitez said California’s complicated legal definition of assault weapons can ensnare otherwise law-abiding gun owners with criminal penalties that among other things can strip them of their Second Amendment right to own firearms.

"The burden on the core Second Amendment right, if any, is minimal,” the state argued, because the weapons can still be used — just not with the modifications that turn them into assault weapons. Modifications like a shorter barrel or collapsible stock make them more concealable, state officials said, while things like a pistol grip or thumbhole grip make them more lethal by improving their accuracy as they are fired rapidly.

The lawsuit filed by the San Diego County Gun Owners Political Action Committee, California Gun Rights Foundation, Second Amendment Foundation and Firearms Policy Coalition is among several by gun advocacy groups challenging California’s firearms laws, which are among the strictest in the nation.
The lawsuit filed in August 2019 followed a series of deadly mass shootings nationwide involving military-style rifles.

It was filed on behalf of gun owners who want to use high-capacity magazines in their legal rifles or pistols, but said they can’t because doing so would turn them into illegal assault weapons under California law. Unlike military weapons, the semi-automatic rifles fire one bullet each time the trigger is pulled, and the plaintiffs say they are legal in 41 states.

The lawsuit said California is “one of only a small handful states to ban many of the most popular semiautomatic firearms in the nation because they possess one or more common characteristics, such as pistol grips and threaded barrels,” frequently but not exclusively along with detachable ammunition magazines.

The state is appealing Benitez’s 2017 ruling against the state’s nearly two-decade-old ban on the sales and purchases of magazines holding more than 10 bullets. That decision triggered a weeklong buying spree before the judge halted sales during the appeal. It was upheld in August by a three-judge appellate panel, but the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said in March that an 11-member panel will rehear the case.
The state also is appealing Benitez’s decision in April 2020 blocking a 2019 California law requiring background checks for anyone buying ammunition.
Both of those measures were championed by Newsom when he was lieutenant governor, and they were backed by voters in a 2016 ballot measure.

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Okay, new update.

After some hemming and hawing, and realizing that they weren't going to get a year to fumble around, California finally submitted their actual briefs and we got to see what, exactly, their argument will be in a post-Bruen world where "as long as it conceivably helps public safety" doesn't work.

Surprise, it's weak and ludicrous: CA is arguing that assault style weapons and attachments, as defined by the state, do not fall under the definition of "arms" within the text of the Constitution. It's merely a regulation of accessories, not actual arms.

It's as silly as arguing news websites have no right to First Amendment protection because it specifically says "press" and none of them are actually using printing presses.



The also argue that since there aren't many documented cases of people using "assault weapons" in self defense, then the "common use" test for firearms doesn't apply. To reach this conclusion, they have ignored the fact that merely OWNING an assault weapon and being ready to use it in self-defense should the need arise, counts as self defense usage. It's like arguing that smoke alarms aren't part of fire safety since the vast majority go their whole lives without detecting an actual fire.

Then there's the fact that the guns in question aren't in common use because California law has specifically singled them out and made it nigh-impossible for citizens to use in the first place, furthermore, they aren't banned in other states and see, surprise, common usage there as a result.

But hey, gotta try something, I guess.
 
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Okay, new update.

After some hemming and hawing, and realizing that they weren't going to get a year to fumble around, California finally submitted their actual briefs and we got to see what, exactly, their argument will be in a post-Bruen world where "as long as it conceivably helps public safety" doesn't work.

Surprise, it's weak and ludicrous: CA is arguing that assault style weapons and attachments, as defined by the state, do not fall under the definition of "arms" within the text of the Constitution. It's merely a regulation of accessories, not actual arms.

It's as silly as arguing news websites have no right to First Amendment protection because it specifically says "press" and none of them are actually using printing presses.
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man!
 
Okay, new update.

After some hemming and hawing, and realizing that they weren't going to get a year to fumble around, California finally submitted their actual briefs and we got to see what, exactly, their argument will be in a post-Bruen world where "as long as it conceivably helps public safety" doesn't work.

Surprise, it's weak and ludicrous: CA is arguing that assault style weapons and attachments, as defined by the state, do not fall under the definition of "arms" within the text of the Constitution. It's merely a regulation of accessories, not actual arms.

It's as silly as arguing news websites have no right to First Amendment protection because it specifically says "press" and none of them are actually using printing presses.
So what you're saying is that they're going to get fucking wrecked? Last I heard the case had been punted back to the district court, so it's likely to be appealed back to the 9th circuit, correct? I wonder if California is willing to bring this to the Supreme Court and risk spoiling assault weapon bans for the whole country.
 
I wonder if California is willing to bring this to the Supreme Court and risk spoiling assault weapon bans for the whole country.
Do you really wonder if California are stupid enough to repeatedly double down on something they know will fail horribly and backfire on them?
 
So what you're saying is that they're going to get fucking wrecked? Last I heard the case had been punted back to the district court, so it's likely to be appealed back to the 9th circuit, correct? I wonder if California is willing to bring this to the Supreme Court and risk spoiling assault weapon bans for the whole country.
The only play with a logical end is to just keep juggling between lower court and circuit court, in perpetuity, until the USSC falls under total Democrat control and then reverses Bruen, however long that takes.

Assuming this isn't all just a big ol' virtue signal, in which case, the fight is what they want, not a resolution.
 
The problem is the average normie doesn’t know how pants on head retarded these laws are. They see “Assault Weapon” and think 50 cal chain gun. If we could get the mainstream media earnestly arguing the case that certain kinds of plastic grips made guns 1000x more dangerous (literally all the law regulates) public opinion on this would shift overnight.
 
The problem is the average normie doesn’t know how pants on head retarded these laws are. They see “Assault Weapon” and think 50 cal chain gun. If we could get the mainstream media earnestly arguing the case that certain kinds of plastic grips made guns 1000x more dangerous (literally all the law regulates) public opinion on this would shift overnight.
At this point, anyone who can be swayed has been swayed, since "assault weapon" garbage wording has been going around since the late 80's / early 90's

You have to remember, the laws they are trying so darn hard to pass aren't for the public, they're for the politicians and the Twitterati. They're to build the portfolio of D candidates going forward, sustain the lifegiving grift of gun-control lobbyists and to empower Federal agencies like the FBI, ATF and IRS to creep further into everyone's life. What the public wants is actually, and has always been, irrelevant.

Even during the happy-go-lucky .com 90's, when both crime and gun-rights were at their lowest ebb in decades, there still was no great support for gun control outside liberal urban enclaves. It was seen as mostly a "city" issue. The Clinton AWB was seen as "settling" because what the big players, the Brady Campaign and such REALLY wanted, was a ban on ALL guns, especially handguns. It was the last chance for European-style gun law to come to the US and it never even got close. An attempt to reclassify ALL rifled long arms as "sniper rifles" and thus illegal got even LESS traction.
 
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The problem is the average normie doesn’t know how pants on head retarded these laws are.
I have to move to a blue state, and my little PSA plinker is an assault weapon there. Maybe. The law is drafted so poorly no one knows what's an assault weapon until they get arrested for it. The state police won't tell me (and have probably put me on a list). Lawyers don't know. I have no idea if modifying it would make it compliant. It's in common use so it's theoretically protected by numerous Supreme Court precedents, but those are honored more in the breach than the observance. The rule of lenity says ambiguous laws should be construed in the defendant's favor, but I could be incarcerated for years while that argument works its way through the courts, and some liberal judge would probably ignore it and keep me in prison anyway. The risk of asserting my rights is so great I might as well not have any rights.

This is what they want to do to all of our rights.
 
The only play with a logical end is to just keep juggling between lower court and circuit court, in perpetuity, until the USSC falls under total Democrat control and then reverses Bruen, however long that takes.

Assuming this isn't all just a big ol' virtue signal, in which case, the fight is what they want, not a resolution.
How do they juggle it? Once they run out of appeals, there’s nowhere to go but up.

Are they just going to try the New York thing and write new laws trying to get around it somehow, and then those get sued into oblivion each time? The problem is California’s politics are a lot more dysfunctional. I don’t think they’d be able to write laws quickly or effectively enough.
 
So what you're saying is that they're going to get fucking wrecked? Last I heard the case had been punted back to the district court, so it's likely to be appealed back to the 9th circuit, correct? I wonder if California is willing to bring this to the Supreme Court and risk spoiling assault weapon bans for the whole country.
Oh TPTB in this dung heap are almost assuredly going to try doubling the fuck down, and then when they don't get what they want they're going to bitch to their constituents for asspats. Probably going to use taxpayer money somehow, and then skim half of it.

The same constituents busy not starving to death because of asinine tax rates, btw.
100 BILLION SURPLUS THO GUISE.
 
Oh TPTB in this dung heap are almost assuredly going to try doubling the fuck down, and then when they don't get what they want they're going to bitch to their constituents for asspats. Probably going to use taxpayer money somehow, and then skim half of it.

The same constituents busy not starving to death because of asinine tax rates, btw.
100 BILLION SURPLUS THO GUISE.
To reply on the tax rates.

AGAIN Segregation by Taxation. If you to not have the money then you are not allowed to live is the best costal regions in California as well as in regions in the United States.

That 100 billion in surplus is being used up quickly this year because of the bullshit going on in California. However I do not see changes soon.
 
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