Undertale

holy shit it’s the real @Kris
deltarune
(Apparently there’s also a user named “Kris Deltarune” who I don’t want to accidentally ping)
Shoutout to Everdraed though, the guy responsible for photoshop flowey - He's a super chill dude and has been doing that sort of art since like 2006. One of the few bits I really remember from playing through UT at release was seeing that boss and instantly wondering if it was his doing; his art's really recognizable.
Photoshop Flowey really threw me for a loop on my first playthrough. The forced crash, the opening and save file fuckery, the boss intro, the interrupted game over screen, everything. That thing looked like it came from an M-rated version of GBA WarioWare and it genuinely unsettled me.
 
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holy shit it’s the real @Kris deltarune
I'm here to open a dark fountain in the library while browsing Kiwifarms cause it'll be funny.
I've been lurking without an account for about two years. Figured I'd sign up. I like Kris, I like Deltarune, so I figured it was a good OPSEC call.
 
I'm here to open a dark fountain in the library while browsing Kiwifarms cause it'll be funny.
Kris, no! You're underage Kris! you can't call people slurs on the fruit ranch forums Kris! Noooooooooooooooooooooo

game of the year just got revealed
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I'm so glad this became Deltarune's main meme, 2 weeks later and I'm still looking forward to see more Asgore truck edits

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The worst thing Mettaton ever tries to do is murder Frisk, which is also done by a dozen other characters, he isn't an outlier.
He uses alphys, planning to discard her when she finishes her body (from a true lab entry), is extremely abusive of his employers, refusing to pay mercenaries he hires to kill you and abusing burgerpants guy in general, in his third fight, he declare is plan to discard monsterkind too because he wants a bigger audience and favours humans over monsters in general, as he plans to stop Asgore's plan and exit the barrier to become a human celebrity, he abandoned napstablook and when he reforms in the pacifist ending by backtracking on hiring him and shyren, he still doesn't apologize for abandoning him because he doesn't reveal his true identity, also said ending feels like an afterthought and hypocritical as he both remains extremely self centred there and neutral endings where he becomes leader are arguably the worst in the game. The stuff where he tries to kill the player in hotland? Yeah sure I loved those, they were a lot of fun, but anything else shows he's scum, flowey did attenpt to kill himself when he realized that nobody could help and when he found out he couldn't kill hinself vecause deternination wouldn't let him, he just started to experiment to see if he could feel anything, when it didn't worked, he became a sociopath with a taste for murder. Mettaton never had any of that to be an asshole, its just his way of doing shit.
Mattaton isn't trans
If he's not trans, he's an allegory of a tranny, I had said this already but text on of his journal use clear troon-coded language about how his ghost body isn't the real him, he founded a human fan club, his EX-form is the most human-looking thing you can encounter in the underground (arguably more than the player character too) and his soul is flipped upside down to look like a human soul when in his
 
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i finally beat the Roaring Knight, and do the rest of Chapter 4 with my, "good" playthrough (all recruits, all eggs, all shards)...
I'm so happy. The kneeling, and being knighted was kinda sick, too, even if I don't know what it meant.

Sans gets tired, and runs away instead of you killing him...
I think it's supposed to be confirmation that Kris is working with the knight, whether it's carol or dess (i really don't see the wiffle bat thing)
 
I'm slowly coming around to the idea that Undertale was some sort of Mega Darkworld that the humans created to banish the monsters into.
Human souls are the only things that seem capable of sealing Dark Fountains after all, and if they were banished into a cave system, it's not really like there would've been any darkners there (Darkners seem to be created from prior meaningful interactions with Lightners)

Seriously Toby, what the fuck is the connection?
this is kinda what ive been thinking since chapter 3. i think undertale is some sort of pocket universe within deltarune which is the "real world". much like deltarune was tobys dream project from the beginning while undertale was a smaller scale experiment he did in the middle as a detour from developing deltarune. thats the connection.

gaster is involved, i fucking know it. no im not insane, you have to believe me. its the CORE. the CORE doesnt just "power the underground," its whats keeping the whole undertale miniworld in existence. everyone in hotland gushes about how marvelous a creation it is and how important it is for their survival but no one knows anything about how it works. we know gaster made it, and then his "experiments went wrong" and he "fell into his creation" and "shattered across time and space"? hes a genius scientist, ostensibly the smartest monster (if he is a monster) that ever lived as even decades later asgore could not find a suitable replacement for him. i aint buying for a second that he "accidentally" erased himself from material existence. he still exists in deltarune and guides the soul towards some as yet unknown goal by acting as the narrator, helping you save and load games, giving you hints on how to "beat" the knight, and he calls the deltarune "his". i think he created the world of undertale for some purpose, maybe to experiment with the soul (us) to see how it will act in a world full of monsters, which im pretty sure is literally why toby made undertale the game. after all gaster is "listening" when you interact with npcs in undertale. based on what sans says and does in undertale and the shit found in his workshop its possible he also originated from deltarune and got stuck in the undertaleverse. toby said that deltarune is independent of undertale which isnt a lie, its the "parent world" in which undertale was created, but the opposite isnt true.

its possible gaster is meant to be a stand in for toby himself as the "game creator" and nothing more than that which tbh would be the most boring explanation as opposed to a monster being so genius he found a way to escape through the 4th wall and give himself all these insane reality bending powers. just who the fuck is this guy? i have no idea but i cant wait to find out (dont you fucking dare cop out toby)

this has been your gaster truther schizopost of the week, donations in the form of puzzle and moon stickers are appreciated <3

Weirdly, the sword tunnels weren't that bad for me.
someone mentioned a few pages back that the sword hitboxes were buggy and were fixed in a later patch. that would check out because they felt weird to me as well, like i was being hit when i shouldnt be, i was playing the original red rose weird route version.
still the sword tunnels are doable even without the patch, it might be harder to consistently no hit but the pattern isnt too hard
 
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The ring of knives and the final box division. Both dealt so much damage, and had too much going on for me to visually parse. Weirdly, the sword tunnels weren't that bad for me.
Same, most of my promising runs would end at either of the two attacks. The sword tunnels gave me some trouble at first, but I managed to deal with them in the end. Took me about four hours in total and half of my Revive Mints to boot. Beating the Roaring Knight on a future weird route save should be breeze, since at least then you get to use the Shadow Mantle.
 
Is there anything to even discuss about Undertale? All the ships and AUs were mulled over long ago. I think Digital Circus has more potential.
Undertale has been combed over and discussed as far as it can be. Anything else to discuss about it is more in how it connects to Deltarune. There's clearly something weird going on there, but even then that's not really about Undertale.
 
Same, most of my promising runs would end at either of the two attacks. The sword tunnels gave me some trouble at first, but I managed to deal with them in the end. Took me about four hours in total and half of my Revive Mints to boot. Beating the Roaring Knight on a future weird route save should be breeze, since at least then you get to use the Shadow Mantle.
Hell no, if I ever have to fight roaring Knight again, I'm just going to cheat and slow the game down. I do not want to lose another 3 days on their ass.
 
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I'm here to open a dark fountain in the library while browsing Kiwifarms cause it'll be funny.
I've been lurking without an account for about two years. Figured I'd sign up. I like Kris, I like Deltarune, so I figured it was a good OPSEC call.
Kris just tell people you're a true man, people are insane lately. It's sad, innit, mate?
Nope. It's been 10 years, that mine has been exhausted, barring the discussion of the odd fangame. Speaking of fans, more and more elaborate memes are being done:
This is canon and I don't care what people say. Kris is absolved of having the sin of looking like a "tranime asshole".

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i'd say he wants to cater to japs because doing so he'll be in that half jap half american position where he won't hear american undertale superfans going crazy over everything, and he won't be deep enough into the jap shit to hear the japanese undertale crazy fans going crazy over everything either

There's also the fact that when you learn another language, it changes your way of thinking in general, your manneurisms change just like how you'd make a new accent for that language.
 
Considering toby's tendency to subvert expectation, could Dess be actually human wearing fake reindeer antlers like Kris did? It would match christmas motif.
And if so, since people think Ralsei is the pair of fake horn Kris used to wear, could the knight be a darkner brought by Dess her fake antlers?
 
Considering toby's tendency to subvert expectation, could Dess be actually human wearing fake reindeer antlers like Kris did? It would match christmas motif.
And if so, since people think Ralsei is the pair of fake horn Kris used to wear, could the knight be a darkner brought by Dess her fake antlers?
Hard to put fake antlers on roadkill, just saying.
 
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