Unschooling - We don't need no education.

[Bugaboo]

I bet these kids will be so thankful when they grow up and have literally no job skills and can't even be hired as a burger flipper because they can't do basic math to calculate the total cost of the burgers. Thanks mom and dad!

 

[Scrotus]

I bet these kids will be so thankful when they grow up and have literally no job skills and can't even be hired as a burger flipper because they can't do basic math to calculate the total cost of the burgers. Thanks mom and dad!

Luckily for them you most likely just press a button on the terminal that says 'cheeseburger.' I agree though, they're totally fucked.

 

[ICametoLurk]

My 13 year old is unschooling Manga and anime, and has been for about 9 months with no end in sight, quite remarkable actually.

http://www.mothering.com/forum/439-unschooling/1487138-what-you-unschooling.html

My 13 year old is unschooling Manga and anime

I...wat

I've been having this issue with my 21 year old son. He went to public school and was traditionally homeschooled for 2 years, and he's constantly after me to send the kids to school. Recently he asked me why I don't give the kids any schoolwork, and I explained to him that we learn naturally following our own interests. He responded that the kids wouldn't learned anything that way, so I asked him what he remembers from school other than social issues. He admitted to not remembering much, so I went on telling him what the kids are up to by their own choice, like my 10 year old daughter figuring out how an electrical circuit works by taking apart a light-up toy, how my 14 year old son with ADHD sat for three hours figuring out how to set up his own Minecraft server, and how my 15 year old daughter is learning Japanese so she can understand her beloved anime. He just grinned sheepishly and said, "Well, I still win."

Yeah, learning how to speak Japanese so that you can watch anime is reallyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy important.

I also struggle (poorly!) with my 15-yo DD's screen time issues. In our home too, the computer/internet is a tool we all use, but she tends to get really caught up in cycles of watching/reading anime/manga/fanfiction to the exclusion of all else (especially schoolwork for courses she has chosen), and it gets to the point where it becomes a negative mental health thing.

http://www.mothering.com/forum/439-unschooling/1161620-axe-falls-unschooling-3.html

So his day looks like: wake up between noon and 2pm, checks his email, reads newly posted chapters of manga, watches several episodes of anime, then works on learning to typeset for a manga house. He'll practice his bass, spend several hours chatting with friends on MSN, or go out with friends and hang out at a local coffee house. He's also teaching himself to read Japanese characters, and will do a few minutes of work on that several times throughout the day.

http://www.mothering.com/forum/439-unschooling/877669-what-unschooling-practical-terms.html

That sounds like quality education

The teenager who drops out when she’s reached a high level of accomplishment in one area, say anime or fencing or designing apps.
https://lauragraceweldon.com/2012/08/28/observe-the-goldilocks-effect-in-action/

high level of accomplishment

anime

http://www.mothering.com/forum/439-unschooling/1387919-what-unschooling-2.html

My DD15 is absolutely obsessed with manga and anime and spends most of her time completely engrossed in them. Most parents would probably cringe at the amount of time she spends on them (or outright forbid it), but it's amazing what she's getting out of it.

http://www.mothering.com/forum/439-...r-children-s-strangest-interests-talents.html

These kids are gonna be pretty much but NEET /jp/ users when they grow up and be for the rest of their lives.

 

[Trilby]

Tbh I don't think video games like Pokemon are bad for kids to learn extra reading skills (such as new words) but they shouldn't be the only reading they do, they have to be taught shit like what a verb is, punctuation and grammar which video games like Pokemon simply cannot teach.
When did Dr Seuss not become an option for children learning how to read? The Cat in the Hat was literally made as an alternative to old timey books that taught children basic reading skills.

Dick & Jane ain't got nothin' on Seuss!

They are so weird about the food.

Spoiled bitch!

Yes, yes. From now on I will leave my garbage on the floor for my dog to eat, since that is what he prefers. His instincts to eat trash and cat shit are far superior to a balanced diet. In fact, it is cruel of me to deny him the precious garbage.

Luckily the first commenter on her page was talking some sense and pointing out the flaws in her analogies.

Good.

Ah it's a fucking wonder when you have to tutor adult students who were put through this exceptional horseshit as children.

Obviously someone's paying the price for being a complacent parent.

Luckily for them you most likely just press a button on the terminal that says 'cheeseburger.' I agree though, they're totally fucked.

I'm sure that time will come.

These kids are gonna be pretty much but NEET /jp/ users when they grow up and be for the rest of their lives.

Pretty much. The thing that gave me a chuckle is thinking of the amount of anime and manga that often takes place in high school, wouldn't they like to go there too?

 

[StarvingAutist]

Y'know, I hate to bring politics into this, but hear me out:

How many these "unschoolers" AREN'T wealthy, white, liberal suburbanites?

Because I'm pretty sure that Afghan and Nigerian women might probably disagree with them on education.

 

[Chan the Wizard]

If you really want to trigger someone on mothering, tell them you're sending your circumcised, bottlefed public school son to get his required vaccinations.

 

[DuckSucker]

http://www.mothering.com/forum/50-l...d-unschooler-who-can-t-do-multiplication.html

lol

Well what do you mean you can't do "multiplication"? I dont remember the multiplication tables but I understand multiplication. I just have to think about it or use a calculator(more likely).

But I think, this isn't "coddling". I think a lot of helicopter parenting, what people call "coddling", it's more like neglect. You dont want to "deal with" the problems that come with having kids, so you just dont. Kinda how my parents were, but I went to public school, it's not much better in the long-run job-skills market, but it at least gives you more structure and more of a chance to actually learn. There is sort of a shame when you fuck your life up though, like, would it have made a difference?

The optimistic among you that are posting here are saying they hope the kids come of age and break out of the school with a hunger for knowledge, but there's an equal chance that they could get out of these schools, fail miserably, and wind up blaming themselves and their conditions. "Was I not smart enough? Is it my fault? I wish I had done X. I should have studied mermaids more in school," etc.

I think his type of stuff is neglect over coddling, but neglect is still kind of abuse.

 

[AngeloTheWizard]

They are so weird about the food.



Yes, yes. From now on I will leave my garbage on the floor for my dog to eat, since that is what he prefers. His instincts to eat trash and cat shit are far superior to a balanced diet. In fact, it is cruel of me to deny him the precious garbage.

Luckily the first commenter on her page was talking some sense and pointing out the flaws in her analogies.

Yahtzee of Zero Punctuation had a joke about that-about how when you become an adult, there's nothing stopping you from eating jam for every meal, then after a few uncomfortable shits "Your maturation is complete!" If you grow up eating what your parents say, then eat garbage for every meal when you get out, you suddenly realize "oh, they had a point".

 

[Valkorion]

I find it extremely funny (and cathartic) that every unschooler who posts on mothering basically has fallen flat on her ass with that strategy and has turned her speshul snoflaeks into potatoes. Now guess who's going to have to foot the bill once these children become wards of the state: Righto, the future taxpayers, i.e. the kids who have actually recieved a formal education.

 

[Trilby]

I find it extremely funny (and cathartic) that every unschooler who posts on mothering basically has fallen flat on her ass with that strategy and has turned her speshul snoflaeks into potatoes. Now guess who's going to have to foot the bill once these children become wards of the state: Righto, the future taxpayers, i.e. the kids who have actually recieved a formal education.

There's a future I'm wasn't planning on.

 

[The Great Citracett]

I actually met some of these kids when I was about 8. An old friend of my mom's she hadn't seen since high school got in touch and decided to come for a visit. She brought her two boys who were 7 and 9 I think. Most horribly behaved kids I'd ever seen. Hyperactive, rude, and had no desire to play or hang out. They just screamed and threw things around and trashed shit.

I later found out they were unschooled because the mom wanted them to grow up in an environment where they never heard "no" because that word would psychologically damage them or something. So instead of "NO!", she'd yell "TAH!" at them. Which had no effect. And she wouldn't make them be quiet, she'd just talk louder.

They did whatever they wanted, ate whatever, basically lived on cookies and candy and pop. Telling them no would have been abuse.

I remember they were pissed I didn't have Nintendo, and they made fun of me for reading and owning books, and threw my books all over. Also, the older one just walked over to my bed, puked all over it, then went right back to running around like nothing happened.

I only ever saw them that once, my mom decided her old friend was just too crazy. I'm almost curious to see if the boys grew up to be criminals or something.

 

[Trilby]

I actually met some of these kids when I was about 8. An old friend of my mom's she hadn't seen since high school got in touch and decided to come for a visit. She brought her two boys who were 7 and 9 I think. Most horribly behaved kids I'd ever seen. Hyperactive, rude, and had no desire to play or hang out. They just screamed and threw things around and trashed shit.

I later found out they were unschooled because the mom wanted them to grow up in an environment where they never heard "no" because that word would psychologically damage them or something. So instead of "NO!", she'd yell "TAH!" at them. Which had no effect. And she wouldn't make them be quiet, she'd just talk louder.

They did whatever they wanted, ate whatever, basically lived on cookies and candy and pop. Telling them no would have been abuse.

I remember they were pissed I didn't have Nintendo, and they made fun of me for reading and owning books, and threw my books all over. Also, the older one just walked over to my bed, puked all over it, then went right back to running around like nothing happened.

I only ever saw them that once, my mom decided her old friend was just too crazy. I'm almost curious to see if the boys grew up to be criminals or something.

I'm sure they did. That is just wrong on so many levels I can't even describe how mad I feel about that. It's up there with the mom who denied her daughter's interest in reading. This is the most extreme of crazy I hope I never see in my life.

 

[The Great Citracett]

I'd really just like to know where she got "TAH!" from. She may as well have used "Nein!" or "Nyet!". Same thing. And her never saying no certainly didn't stop them from saying it.

"Boys! Tah! Please stop throwing things! Tah! Tah!"

"NO MOM!"

 

[Trilby]

I'd really just like to know where she got "TAH!" from. She may as well have used "Nein!" or "Nyet!". Same thing. And her never saying no certainly didn't stop them from saying it.

"Boys! Tah! Please stop throwing things! Tah! Tah!"

"NO MOM!"

This is why parents need to use the word "NO!" It just leads to this mess.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Luckily for them you most likely just press a button on the terminal that says 'cheeseburger.' I agree though, they're totally fucked.

The problem is that you have to learn how to use the machine that button's attached to.

So yeah, they'll probably be living under their parents' floorboards well into their adulthood. It's only a matter of whether or not they'd realize their mistake or not.

 

[Drago]

This is why parents need to use the word "NO!" It just leads to this mess.

I rarely say "no" to my kids tbh. They have been raised to respect me and my rules, so I don't have to reprimand them.
I would absolutely homeschool my kids if we live in a shitty school district, but I would hate it, and so would my kids. They love school, and its nice to have a break from each other. But unschooling would never ever be an option, because despite my girls' beliefs, rainbows and sparkles and unicorns would not be an ideal basis for education.

 

[Trilby]

I rarely say "no" to my kids tbh. They have been raised to respect me and my rules, so I don't have to reprimand them.
I would absolutely homeschool my kids if we live in a shitty school district, but I would hate it, and so would my kids. They love school, and its nice to have a break from each other. But unschooling would never ever be an option, because despite my girls' beliefs, rainbows and sparkles and unicorns would not be an ideal basis for education.

No it isn't!

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16858

She loves cartoons and anime, and is writing anime stories. She also likes to create animation on her computer. Hopefully someday she'll be able to make a living in this field.

This lady hopes her 19 year old will get a career in anime. Wonderful.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-children-teach-games-life-experiences.html

while children across the country are sitting down to the desks for the day's lessons, Rio and Bryden are engrossed in their favourite computer game, Minecraft, or collecting feathers and stones in the nearby country park.

Their mother said: 'Both the kids have learnt numbers, words and how to type through their computer games, and they've learnt a lot about computers too.

'They've learnt maths through things like shopping and baking.

'Numbers are always going through Bryden's head - he's fascinated with clocks and timetables. Rio is more of a words person - she learnt through games like Scrabble and Monopoly.

'They've learnt about birds, trees and rocks just by being outdoors.'

She said: 'I'm bringing the kids up to be free-thinking entrepreneurs who don't have to work for someone else if they don't want to and don't feel they have to 'be something' when they grow up.'

This uneducated woman teaches her kids by letting them play minecraft all day and wants to make them feel like they don't have to ''be something'' when they grow up. She's literally raising them to be NEETs. Jesus, how is this legal?

Also, someone mentioned Neil Cicierega earlier. He's 30 years old now and his ''job'' is still making youtube videos and music. In other words, he's doing the same stuff he was doing when he was 12.

 

[Trilby]

Also, someone mentioned Neil Cicierega earlier. He's 30 years old now and his ''job'' is still making youtube videos and music. In other words, he's doing the same stuff he was doing when he was 12.

Poor Neil. Still, he does what he likes.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Also, someone mentioned Neil Cicierega earlier. He's 30 years old now and his ''job'' is still making youtube videos and music. In other words, he's doing the same stuff he was doing when he was 12.

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Geez, this sounds like something someone from TGWTG would say.

Are his songs even popular anymore?