Law Upcoming vote on Net Neutrality laws - How many times do we need to strike this shit down?

FCC plans to vote to overturn U.S. net neutrality rules in December
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The head of the Federal Communications Commission is set to unveil plans next week for a final vote to reverse a landmark 2015 net neutrality order barring the blocking or slowing of web content, two people briefed on the plans said.

In May, the FCC voted 2-1 to advance Republican FCC Chairman Ajit Pai’s plan to withdraw the former Obama administration’s order reclassifying internet service providers as if they were utilities. Pai now plans to hold a final vote on the proposal at the FCC’s Dec. 14 meeting, the people said, and roll out details of the plans next week.

Pai asked in May for public comment on whether the FCC has authority or should keep any regulations limiting internet providers’ ability to block, throttle or offer “fast lanes” to some websites, known as “paid prioritization.” Several industry officials told Reuters they expect Pai to drop those specific legal requirements but retain some transparency requirements under the order.

An FCC spokesman declined to comment.

Internet providers including AT&T Inc, Comcast Corp and Verizon Communications Inc say ending the rules could spark billions in additional broadband investment and eliminate the possibility a future administration could regulate internet pricing.

Critics say the move could harm consumers, small businesses and access to the internet.

In July, a group representing major technology firms including Alphabet Inc and Facebook Inc urged Pai to drop plans to rescind the rules.

Advocacy group Free Press said Wednesday “we’ll learn the gory details in the next few days, but we know that Pai intends to dismantle the basic protections that have fueled the internet’s growth.”

Pai, who argues the Obama order was unnecessary and harms jobs and investment, has not committed to retaining any rules, but said he favors an “open internet.” The proposal to reverse the Obama rules reclassifying internet service has drawn more than 22 million comments.

Pai is mounting an aggressive deregulatory agenda since being named by President Donald Trump to head the FCC.

On Thursday the FCC will vote on Pai’s proposal to eliminate the 42-year-old ban on cross-ownership of a newspaper and TV station in a major market. The proposal would make it easier for media companies to buy additional TV stations in the same market.

Pai is also expected to call for an initial vote in December to rescind rules that say one company may not own stations serving more than 39 percent of U.S. television households, two people briefed on the matter said.
Oh, and Comcast is already lobbying.

I'm so sick of this shit, seriously. The FCC is whoring out for Comcast and AT&T instead of ensuring that American citizens have equal access to the internet.
 
They'll keep pushing it til they get it through. Lots of bills unpopular bills get passed this way, you just have to keep stapling it to other bills and hope you get lucky one time.
I'm just waiting for the one president who'll not bend backwards for the FCC and make an amendment that bans them from making any laws.

Because that's basically what they're trying to do here, and they'll never learn until everyday people begin telling them off just as much as the internet dwellers. And maybe not even then.
 
I'm just waiting for the one president who'll not bend backwards for the FCC and make an amendment that bans them from making any laws.

Because that's basically what they're trying to do here, and they'll never learn until everyday people begin telling them off just as much as the internet dwellers. And maybe not even then.

What can any President do realistically? Amendments have to go through congress, executive orders can be struck down by the courts or reversed. Aside from saying "Net Neutrality is good yall" like Obama did, there isn't much they can do.
 
They would also be able to control which websites you're allowed to visit like TV channels and charge the end user premiums just to visit certain websites.

Hey this sounds familiar like *ahem* cable tv...

On another note, didn't the Supreme Court rule that the internet is free speech as long it's not terroristic, malicious, or anything that harms anybody?
 
It would in the short term, the idea is to throttle websites and make them pay for higher loading speeds and shit on anyone who can't pay their enormous fees. They would also be able to control which websites you're allowed to visit like TV channels and charge the end user premiums just to visit certain websites. It would also enable them to control the political atmosphere of the internet if they were inclined to police wrongthink.
Hey this sounds familiar like *ahem* cable tv...

On another note, didn't the Supreme Court rule that the internet is free speech as long it's not terroristic, malicious, or anything that harms anybody?
I believe this old image illustrates the idea nicely...
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On another note, didn't the Supreme Court rule that the internet is free speech as long it's not terroristic, malicious, or anything that harms anybody?
1. I'm not sure that applies here.
2. Even if it does, do you think they'll care? If corporations could turn a profit from harvesting the organs of random people and could cover it up, they'd do it.
 
This is why "the people" will never win shit like this.

No mater how many times you rev folks up to fight they sooner or later stop giving a shit.

The corporations pay people tp push this 24-7, that's their job and they never ever stop because it's their fuckin job.

So yah...ya'll are fucked.
Well at least I'll have a story to tell my grandkids someday of how good things just don't last forever when you get 'too many cooks' involved.
 
It would in the short term, the idea is to throttle websites and make them pay for higher loading speeds and shit on anyone who can't pay their enormous fees. They would also be able to control which websites you're allowed to visit like TV channels and charge the end user premiums just to visit certain websites. It would also enable them to control the political atmosphere of the internet if they were inclined to police wrongthink.

Comcast is constantly calling me and offering me some sort of thing and pushing it like I don't want Netflix or any other type of service. They want all your money. All of it. But they know that it's hard to get people to stop using non-Comcast services. So why not make it impossible to do so without some special added fees?
 
I believe this old image illustrates the idea nicely...
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I could see something like this reviving.
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Approved sites in a pretty directory, everything else unlisted and throttled. The average webpage is 3mb these days, any independent site could be smothered to death by a 10 second load time.

AOL also recompressed all jpegs horribly, so everything outside their little pen looked terrible and broken.
 
I could see something like this reviving.
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Approved sites in a pretty directory, everything else unlisted and throttled. The average webpage is 3mb these days, any independent site could be smothered to death by a 10 second load time.

AOL also recompressed all jpegs horribly, so everything outside their little pen looked terrible and broken.
I'm just glad I never used AOL at all.
 
I could see something like this reviving.
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Approved sites in a pretty directory, everything else unlisted and throttled. The average webpage is 3mb these days, any independent site could be smothered to death by a 10 second load time.

AOL also recompressed all jpegs horribly, so everything outside their little pen looked terrible and broken.

I think since the traditional media is in it's dying throes, they need to find a reliable fixed system to get revenue from. Too many people are getting around ad blockers, not enough are paying for online subscriptions to news sites. They are losing money. If they can push this, then they can get back to the traditional media framework.

You pay money, you get access to the news sites, you pay money you get access to the cable channels/youtube, you pay money you get access to the scrambled porn channels. That way, the companies don't have to worry about all the backend overhead of ad servers or figuring out monetization.

It also allows them to strangle the 3rd party out of the scene, no one will go anywhere else when you get 9kbs because you wanted to watch a fansubbed anime. The major corps are back in control again and get to call the shots again. For the average person, you now have to wait, and then pay the "anime channel" subscription. Secondarily also minimizes the chances of something like the media losing grip of the undecided voters, going somewhere outside the MSM and something like Trump happening again. If you spend your billion dollars to canvas the media, then you win the election. Just like is what's supposed to happen.
 
I think since the traditional media is in it's dying throes, they need to find a reliable fixed system to get revenue from. Too many people are getting around ad blockers, not enough are paying for online subscriptions to news sites. They are losing money. If they can push this, then they can get back to the traditional media framework.

You pay money, you get access to the news sites, you pay money you get access to the cable channels/youtube, you pay money you get access to the scrambled porn channels. That way, the companies don't have to worry about all the backend overhead of ad servers or figuring out monetization.

It also allows them to strangle the 3rd party out of the scene, no one will go anywhere else when you get 9kbs because you wanted to watch a fansubbed anime. The major corps are back in control again and get to call the shots again. For the average person, you now have to wait, and then pay the "anime channel" subscription. Secondarily also minimizes the chances of something like the media losing grip of the undecided voters, going somewhere outside the MSM and something like Trump happening again. If you spend your billion dollars to canvas the media, then you win the election. Just like is what's supposed to happen.
So basically it's really just moving those industries over to a platform that didn't intend to be used in this way but they have no choice.
 
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