Law Upcoming vote on Net Neutrality laws - How many times do we need to strike this shit down?

FCC plans to vote to overturn U.S. net neutrality rules in December

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The head of the Federal Communications Commission is set to unveil plans next week for a final vote to reverse a landmark 2015 net neutrality order barring the blocking or slowing of web content, two people briefed on the plans said.

In May, the FCC voted 2-1 to advance Republican FCC Chairman Ajit Pai’s plan to withdraw the former Obama administration’s order reclassifying internet service providers as if they were utilities. Pai now plans to hold a final vote on the proposal at the FCC’s Dec. 14 meeting, the people said, and roll out details of the plans next week.

Pai asked in May for public comment on whether the FCC has authority or should keep any regulations limiting internet providers’ ability to block, throttle or offer “fast lanes” to some websites, known as “paid prioritization.” Several industry officials told Reuters they expect Pai to drop those specific legal requirements but retain some transparency requirements under the order.

An FCC spokesman declined to comment.

Internet providers including AT&T Inc, Comcast Corp and Verizon Communications Inc say ending the rules could spark billions in additional broadband investment and eliminate the possibility a future administration could regulate internet pricing.

Critics say the move could harm consumers, small businesses and access to the internet.

In July, a group representing major technology firms including Alphabet Inc and Facebook Inc urged Pai to drop plans to rescind the rules.

Advocacy group Free Press said Wednesday “we’ll learn the gory details in the next few days, but we know that Pai intends to dismantle the basic protections that have fueled the internet’s growth.”

Pai, who argues the Obama order was unnecessary and harms jobs and investment, has not committed to retaining any rules, but said he favors an “open internet.” The proposal to reverse the Obama rules reclassifying internet service has drawn more than 22 million comments.

Pai is mounting an aggressive deregulatory agenda since being named by President Donald Trump to head the FCC.

On Thursday the FCC will vote on Pai’s proposal to eliminate the 42-year-old ban on cross-ownership of a newspaper and TV station in a major market. The proposal would make it easier for media companies to buy additional TV stations in the same market.

Pai is also expected to call for an initial vote in December to rescind rules that say one company may not own stations serving more than 39 percent of U.S. television households, two people briefed on the matter said.

Oh, and Comcast is already lobbying.

I'm so sick of this shit, seriously. The FCC is whoring out for Comcast and AT&T instead of ensuring that American citizens have equal access to the internet.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ajit and Big Telecom think that they're pulling this master gambit where if people get frustrated enough they'll just go back to cable TV and they'll make a profit regardless of what service people pick. Kinda like how studios will occasionally pull shit from Netflix thinking that'll encourage DVD sales instead of driving people to torrent shit until it comes back.

Of course, I hear occasionally on the rumor mill the big dogs like Google might forgo the telecoms altogether if this goes through and host everything themselves, but who knows how that would turn out or if it's even true.

I could probably see Google doing their own hosting, at least for a little while because of how big they are. But I feel like other companies would be shit out of luck. I mean Netflix is already spending billions to make more original content, I'm not entirely sure how much they'd even need to spend to host their own site and the aforementioned content.

The birth of Net Neutrality was Verizon suing the FCC because of Comcast IIRC.

And now Verizon's siding with the FCC. My how times change.

 

[escapegoat]

Besides, you already have groups getting ready to pound this faggot shill in the ground with lawsuits. If he wants legal arguments only, he is going to regret asking for them.

Most heartwarming sentence I've seen all day.

 

[One Man Bland]

The birth of Net Neutrality was Verizon suing the FCC because of Comcast IIRC.

So they should already know exactly why pulling net neutrality is a terrible idea and that they're just as vulnerable to the negative effects from competitors, but they're trying to get rid of it anyways because they're salty about how much money other companies make off their services and want to ring out more pennies from their consumers. Wonderful.

But hey, maybe if this shot makes it through we'll get lucky and the telecoms will be begging the FCC to switch it back within a year because they figure out that their competitors can slow down or outright block their own websites and they can't entice all the customers who eventually leave to come back. maybe, but I can dream.

 

[Pikapool]

So I guess it's easier to attack NN instead of admitting the FCC is being fucking r.etarded

 

[Secret Asshole]

So they should already know exactly why pulling net neutrality is a terrible idea and that they're just as vulnerable to the negative effects from competitors, but they're trying to get rid of it anyways because they're salty about how much money other companies make off their services and want to ring out more pennies from their consumers. Wonderful.

But hey, maybe if this shot makes it through we'll get lucky and the telecoms will be begging the FCC to switch it back within a year because they figure out that their competitors can slow down or outright block their own websites and they can't entice all the customers who eventually leave to come back. maybe, but I can dream.

I think its going to take another administration, a lawsuit or an assault by Google/Amazon/Facebook on the ISPs. Possibly all three to take it back. I mean, if all it takes is another administration and hiring of a shill, that's exactly what is going to happen. The whole fucking internet is on fire with this shit. That doesn't come without consequences and there are plenty of billion dollar entities getting fucked by this as well. You think Google or Amazon want to pay any money to these chucklefucks and their dying television/phone industry?

You might see a consortium of companies develop their own alternatives or even hostile take-overs of ISPs. Its kind of silly to me that the ISPs think people will take this lying down in order to somehow get people back to watching their shitty television shows. You think Google or Amazon will just go: "Oh yes Mr. ISP person, I will let you have millions of my profits for you doing absolutely nothing. In response to this, I will be helpless and thankful for you to give me fast speeds which you should be providing as your job. I will explain me doing nothing in response to this to my shareholders. Also, I am a massive pussy." I mean, we're talking about Google that went into fiber and Amazon, which is poised now to take on fucking pharmacies. Amazon will be getting into the pill subscription business and already murdering grocery stores. You think they'll tolerate losing millions to pay these cunts for nothing? I mean, have you seen Jeff Bezos? The guy looks like he could literally beat the head of the FCC's face in.

Honestly, this speaks to me as the mentality of most companies: short-term profits for long-term losses. I do think this is going to massively bite them in the ass. Because: 1) Its a bipartisan issue that nobody wants to repeal. Literally nobody but conservative contrarians and corporate cock-sucking shills want this. 2) FCC is ignoring public comments, which is only pissing people off more 3) You've got not million, but billion dollar entities standing to lose a lot of money.

One recent example is EA. I mean, nobody ever thought EA would get punished for overstepping. But look what happened: They pissed everybody off, stand to lose the Starwars license, their product sold like shit and possibly lost a business model for an entire industry. I think this is the same case. You've got a lot of pissed off people and multiple pissed off billion dollar firms. Its legislation in this case, but there are probably people in these companies already plotting on how to cut the ISPs out. Like I said before, these companies are not going to be passive about this. And if they are, they're really fucking stupid for handing money over for nothing.

 

[AnOminous]

The person who said all this also seemed to be under the impression that Big Telecom will either never get to the "Internet package deals" because the average consumer is small fry compared to Netflix, or that it will at least reinvorgate competition since companies like Verizon and Comcast will start trying to one-up each other to give the widest selection of sites.

We already have "the widest selection of sites." All of them.

Because that's what the Internet is. That's why it was created (mostly with public money at the outset).

If you don't have that, you've fucked the Internet up.

 

[Shokew]

We already have "the widest selection of sites." All of them.

Because that's what the Internet is. That's why it was created (mostly with public money at the outset).

If you don't have that, you've fucked the Internet up.

Thank you - that's what burns me up about this. Rather than either integrate and/or innovate, what we could end up with for our internet will be no better than DirecTV... I can't stress this enough.

 

[Tranhuviya]

Look at Weev arguing for the crippling of the same platform that allowed him to do so much.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

The decision is: Would you rather have the government or corporations controlling the internet?

It doesn't make much difference when "the government" are all cronies of the tech oligopoly.

 

[Arctic]

Look at Weev arguing for the crippling of the same platform that allowed him to do so much.

Mister Metokur also made a video a while ago where he argued that abolishing Net Neutrality was necessary to balance the power of big platforms by giving more power to ISPs. In reality it would probably just create a two-tier system of oppression. Like in British India, where you were getting fucked both by your local ruler and the British (or in this case Comcast and Facebook) without either keeping the other in check much.

Also, this whole situation is kind of similar to what happened with SOPA in 2011, with disastrous bipartisan legislation being announced with only a very limited time before the vote.

 

[TowinKarz]

An industry is officially obsolete the minute they go to congress and lobby that it should be illegal to not give them money.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

So I guess it's easier to attack NN instead of admitting the FCC is being fucking r.etarded

The FCC will never be self-aware to admit that they're fuckall r.etarded as shit for all the decisions they've ever made.

 

[Dembow]

the thing that'll suck the most when this passes is that other countries will go "me too me too!!" and they'll try to take down NN too

 

[Fagnacious D]

the thing that'll suck the most when this passes is that other countries will go "me too me too!!" and they'll try to take down NN too

This post is why there should be a "pessimist" rating

 

[NotoriousD]

This post is why there should be a "pessimist" rating

I try to stay positive when faced with things like these. I also truly believe along the same lines Secret Asshole said. Yeah we have huge corporations vying to abolish NN. We also have huge corporations that might not want it gone, and I don't think they're gonna spread their cheeks and request to be fucked.

 

[Male]

Ajit is just mad that no one opens bob and vagene to him so he's making sure no one on the internet can

 

[Skeletor]

the thing that'll suck the most when this passes is that other countries will go "me too me too!!" and they'll try to take down NN too

Nah, only America is this retarded.

 

[Shokew]

Nah, only America is this exceptional.

Yeah... It's like America wants to be even worse off than China. I smell anarchy in the future over this - one way or another.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

We must fight the Trooncast before this law gives it a chance to evolve.

 

[Steve Mayers]

I can only imagine how bad Time Warner excuse my Spectrum's internet could get.