Disaster Updates on the Las Vegas Shooting - this is not the shitposting thread you are looking for

Thankfully, we have a great thread for all of your retarded arguments about gun control or whatever is going on in there at the moment, but for the rest of us there is a ton of shit coming out so we'll keep track of it here. If you want to argue like a retard, once again, the containment thread is perfect for that. So fuck off with that shit in here. Same with speculations. Keep this thread mostly for hard facts and discussion of said facts.



Basic Bitches Facts

  • 59 people were killed (including the gunman), and according to police sources, at least 527 were injured.
  • The shooter is Stephen Paddock, 64, from the area.
  • The FBI said he was believed to have acted alone.
  • He opened fired on the Route 91 Harvest Country Music festival in Las Vegas
  • About 22,000 people were attending the festival at the time
  • His sniper nest was in a corner room he rented on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel & Casino
  • 23 guns were found in his hotel room, with another 24 at his various, alongside explosives and thousands of rounds.

Facts about the victims
  • Multiple portraits of the victims have been published so far, if you want to get really depressed.
  • Three of them have yet to be identified
  • It's also important to remember: a lot of the victims are in critical condition and the death toll may keep rising, unfortunately.


The Updates:

This is where it gets interesting:

What Stephen Paddock did was highly professional. According to the last press conference by Undersheriff McMahill, two cameras were set up in the hallway in order to see SWAT team approaching, as well as one through the hotel room's peephole. Additionally, Stephen Paddock set up a camera inside of the room filming himself and possibly streaming it.

The Las Vegas gunman responsible for shooting over 550 people reportedly filmed himself during the rampage, according to multiple reports.

The latest revelation into shooter Stephen Paddock on Tuesday is that he had cameras set up in the hallway to know when police were closing in on his position but also reportedly had a device recording him in his hotel room as he fired upon thousands of concertgoers.

“Las Vegas madman Stephen Paddock set up a camera inside his hotel room to capture his deadly shooting rampage — and other surveillance in the hallway to alert him as cops closed in on him,” the New York Post reported.

Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said Tuesday that the FBI is reviewing all the footage recovered from the crime scene.

In the weeks prior to the shooting, Stephen Paddock wired $100,000 to the Philippines, Australia and possibly the Middle-East. He also recently visited Dubai according to certain reports, as did Marilou Danley.

First called a person of interest, then unrelated to the shooting, now she is back on the FBI's shitlist and still in the Philippines. There are reports she might be on her way back to answer questions but there is no certainty either way right now.

Leaked pictures have shown he left a note behind, but we still do not know what was written on it

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And in case you didn't think he was already enough of a monster, turns out he used to work for the IRS

The Charlotte Observer reports:

The Las Vegas gunman who killed nearly 60 people at a country music festival worked as a letter carrier for the U.S. Postal Service, an IRS agent and in an auditing department over a 10-year period.

A spokeswoman for the Office of Personnel Management told The Associated Press on Tuesday that Stephen Paddock's employment included about two years as a mail carrier from 1976 to 1978.

After that, he worked as an agent for the Internal Revenue Service for six years until 1984. And then he worked a defense auditing job for about 18 months.

Paddock also previously worked as a defense contractor sometime during the late 80s, and graduated college from Cal State Northridge in 1977.



The next Hitler is probably a DMV employee
 
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* 23 guns were found in his hotel room, with another 24 at his various, alongside explosives and thousands of rounds.
saying he had thousands of rounds in various homes is misleading. i have around 1 million rounds of ammunition at my home and business - people buy in bulk to save money. ammunition is no different and is often sold in 1000 round lots or divisions thereof for serious shooters. what's more concerning is that he apparently (as per his brother) not a shooter much at all; not a hunter or anything.

The guns that Paddock used included several DDM4 and FN-15 rifles, an AR-15, and an AK-47 assault rifle. He also had multiple shotguns, revolvers, etc.
the DDM4 series, the FN-15 are all AR-15 variations. the AK-47 is unlikely to be an AK-47 and is some sporting variation. none of these are assault rifles. in some states they fit the legal definition of an assault weapon (New Jersey, California, New York, et c) but this definition varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction and is not a technical definition.

also it seems very strange he would haul that many firearms unless in order to increase his lethality he would dump a gun that suffered a malfunction or needed cooling and use an alternate to maintain a rate of fire.

Though it's against the law to buy or sell fully automatic weapons, he was able to buy semiautomatic guns legally and convert them. Multiple gun store owners have confirmed that he bought the guns from them.
wrong. automatic weapons are legal to buy, sell, own, and use in most states. some states have restrictions on them (CA requires a permit that is impossible to get nearly), they are very expensive (a collectible, transferable M16 is $20,000), and pretty much anyone can legally buy a gun because it's a Constitutional right much like freedom of religion, speech, or association.

it doesn't appear to have converted anything into an automatic weapon. bump firing is not a conversion. it is a shooting technique. some tools/accessories can make bump firing easier or more convenient, but are ultimately unnecessary.

Several of the guns had other modifications, including special clips that could hold more ammunition, bump stocks (which let him shoot faster), and a high-powered scope.
magazines, and they are not "special". high capacity magazines have been around for decades, and are sold through standard outlets. they are generally quite unreliable though with rare exception. often picky with ammunition and the firearm, requiring more maintenance, increased internal complexity, and other details. they are also more expensive than more reliable traditional magazines.

bump stocks enable bump firing to be more controlled and have been a recent thing the past few years. prior to this you used either a trigger activator (crank, Hellfire trigger, et c), a bump stick (2x4 with a dowel) or a belt loop. you can also, with practice, merely hold the rifle in a specific way and bump fire fairly easily.

that is not a high powered scope, unless he had some 20x somewhere. i saw some average hunting scopes and a couple holographic sights. these are a little pricier for nice examples (EOTech, Vortex Optics, et c), but are not high powered.

many things you noted are somewhat sensationalized.

All of the guns must have been very expensive, costing $5,000-$10,000 each.
no. a basic AR-15 is about $600 or so. even more expensive Daniel Defense rifles (sold at tactical rifles mostly as DD is a defense supplier) are around $1,000-$2,000. you don't get much more than that without hitting historically significant, collectible, or transferable firearms. i would believe the guns he hauled to the room at $10k total.

Gotta love the fear mongering, skip over the common uses like a forward grip, bipod, flashlight, etc. Go straight to Grenade launcher.
that isn't even a grenade launcher. i have a Colt M203. that is a Spike's Tactical "Havoc" 37mm flare launcher that i don't think the shooter even had. while i supposed it's possible to make something, no readily available centerfire grenades are in that size.
 
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saying he had thousands of rounds in various homes is misleading. i have around 1 million rounds of ammunition at my home and business - people buy in bulk to save money. ammunition is no different and is often sold in 1000 round lots or divisions thereof for serious shooters. what's more concerning is that he apparently (as per his brother) not a shooter much at all; not a hunter or anything.


the DDM4 series, the FN-15 are all AR-15 variations. the AK-47 is unlikely to be an AK-47 and is some sporting variation. none of these are assault rifles. in some states they fit the legal definition of an assault weapon (New Jersey, California, New York, et c) but this definition varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction and is not a technical definition.

also it seems very strange he would haul that many firearms unless in order to increase his lethality he would dump a gun that suffered a malfunction or needed cooling and use an alternate to maintain a rate of fire.


wrong. automatic weapons are legal to buy, sell, own, and use in most states. some states have restrictions on them (CA requires a permit that is impossible to get nearly), they are very expensive (a collectible, transferable M16 is $20,000), and pretty much anyone can legally buy a gun because it's a Constitutional right much like freedom of religion, speech, or association.

it doesn't appear to have converted anything into an automatic weapon. bump firing is not a conversion. it is a shooting technique. some tools/accessories can make bump firing easier or more convenient, but are ultimately unnecessary.


magazines, and they are not "special". high capacity magazines have been around for decades, and are sold through standard outlets. they are generally quite unreliable though with rare exception. often picky with ammunition and the firearm, requiring more maintenance, increased internal complexity, and other details. they are also more expensive than more reliable traditional magazines.

bump stocks enable bump firing to be more controlled and have been a recent thing the past few years. prior to this you used either a trigger activator (crank, Hellfire trigger, et c), a bump stick (2x4 with a dowel) or a belt loop. you can also, with practice, merely hold the rifle in a specific way and bump fire fairly easily.

that is not a high powered scope, unless he had some 20x somewhere. i saw some average hunting scopes and a couple holographic sights. these are a little pricier for nice examples (EOTech, Vortex Optics, et c), but are not high powered.

many things you noted are somewhat sensationalized.


no. a basic AR-15 is about $600 or so. even more expensive Daniel Defense rifles (sold at tactical rifles mostly as DD is a defense supplier) are around $1,000-$2,000. you don't get much more than that without hitting historically significant, collectible, or transferable firearms. i would believe the guns he hauled to the room at $10k total.


that isn't even a grenade launcher. i have a Colt M203. that is a Spike's Tactical "Havoc" 37mm flare launcher that i don't think the shooter even had. while i supposed it's possible to make something, no readily available centerfire grenades are in that size.
Huh, guess the article I used was mistaken then. Thanks for correcting me.
 
Some dude stayed in the exact same room Stephen shot out of. Gives a video tour and shows the views from the windows.

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https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a44_1507046200
The tour of this room, the Vista Suite is still up on the Mandalay website. https://www.mandalaybay.com/en/hotel/vista-suite.html

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/las-vegas-mass-shooting.34820/page-47#post-2650393

ETA: Vista Suite is no longer listed.
 
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Alex Jones apparently thinks the Deep State pulled off the attack, like the shooter was a hardcore liberal or something that got recruited into carrying out the attack or radicalized by Muslims or some shit. I mean the guy's a Boomer, and a lot of Boomers tend to be pretty liberal. But I dunno. What do you guys think?

And yeah, I listened to Alex Jones last night just to hear what he had to say... >.>
 
Alex Jones apparently thinks the Deep State pulled off the attack, like the shooter was a hardcore liberal or something that got recruited into carrying out the attack or radicalized by Muslims or some shit. I mean the guy's a Boomer, and a lot of Boomers tend to be pretty liberal. But I dunno. What do you guys think?
Alex Jones probably thinks the Deep State blocked his toilet last week. As far as I can see there's zero evidence Paddock was doing it out of any kind of conscious political motive. If he was, he'd probably have done some kind of manifesto or video behind to explain, like the Unabomber and the guys who did 9/11 and...well, try and name someone who carried out a political murder recently and didn't.

The problem with establishing a motive here is going to be that this guy basically did one thing of major public importance in his life - kill a bunch of people. All the other stuff he did for the previous 64 years is now going to be judged against that and you can easily make any of it look suspicious when you know how his life ended. It's made for conspiracy theorists.
 
It really says a lot about how we have turned political ideology into the new moral universe, and psychologists into confessors, that it's so hard for so many people to wrap their head around the notion that maybe this dude was just a plain old evil scumbag who wanted to kill people 'cause it sounded satisfying.
 
It really says a lot about how we have turned political ideology into the new moral universe, and psychologists into confessors, that it's so hard for so many people to wrap their head around the notion that maybe this dude was just a plain old evil scumbag who wanted to kill people 'cause it sounded satisfying.

People are trying to find a reason or a motive, but you're right, some things can simply be chalked up to plain ol' sociopathy. It's very telling that the guy has no friends coming forward to speak for him, and his ex-wives are keeping quiet too. A 64-year-old man who's never had friends and whose father was called a psychopath by the FBI. That says a lot.
 
I can see some crazy islam shit from the Philippines, but The Deep State doing it via crazy islam shit from the Philippines seems an ass backwards way of doing it.

I sometimes wonder if people like Alex Jones really stop and think about the logistics in their wild speculation before they open their mouths. It does not take a giant leap in logic to realize how stupid of a plan this would be. To conduct a inside job by deep state Obama and Hillary just to maybe get a chance to influence gun control legislation is retarded. If they would go out of their way to organize a filipino/ISIS mass murder through such a long term and elaborate plan...why not just use a bomb or something? Instead of creating a insane paper trail of hotel reservations, international money transfers and jedi level trickery on the FBI, LVPD, and national media.
 
The above video bothers me because that couple fakes an injury to get in the cab, then asks to go to their hotel and doesn't pay the driver, misgendering aside...and the fact that the driver gets so psyched for $100...so much realness here...
 
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This is the closest to proper ethical journalism I've ever seen from PJW.
He illustrates the point that whilst the motives of Stephen Paddock are unclear to the public, stranger mass murder is usually politically/message motivated or fame motivated - the fame aspect usually only displaying in younger killers.

This wasn't as simple as "just snapped, felt like killing some people". This was a mature aged man who had a lot of money and was organised and his target was a very specific demographic, so political/ideology motive is what experts are leaning towards.

Marilou's typical SE Asian behaviour seems like a side story. Much like the San Bernardino killers and their associates, this guy probably just sat on a hive of self entitled assholes who wouldn't have been exposed if not for his unrelated crimes.
 
It really says a lot about how we have turned political ideology into the new moral universe, and psychologists into confessors, that it's so hard for so many people to wrap their head around the notion that maybe this dude was just a plain old evil scumbag who wanted to kill people 'cause it sounded satisfying.

Because everyone wants an understandable answer to something they don't understand.
 
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