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Even though you're obviously not acting in good faith, I'll give you a serious answer anyway.
Literally everything in the world runs on computers. They're right behind water and oil in terms of what keeps modern society functioning.
For as much fun as it is to meme about Apple fanboys having to shell out twice as much for their goyslop products, a price hike on electronics that severe in such a short timeframe without giving a cool-off period to allow manufacturing to make its way back to America is how you trigger a recession so bad that you lose both the midterms and 2028 because no one will care about the long-term plan when they can't run their businesses due to lack of electronic access.
I already addressed the fact that literally all other tariffs remain unchanged and how little electronics actually impact Chinese exports in an earlier response, so it's not my fault if you can't read.
In short, so he did have to walk back some of his tariffs, this is what I have been saying, the orange man almost tanked the economy over this, do you see why throwing around tariffs with little to no foresight is bad?, and you fuckers defended him for this?
He walked back the tariff on electronics. Do you know who stands to gain the most from that? Taiwan. For every dollar China makes assembling and shipping an IPhone, Taiwan makes $15 for producing the parts. Taiwan and Trump have been doing a lot of negotiations and this change is more of a favor for Taiwan than China.
hold on, isn't he also putting tariffs on Taiwan too?, what's goin on there anyway
For example, the only parts of an iPhone made in China are the case and battery.

The case can be easily made by any machine shop with a CNC mill; Apple famously bought Foxconn their mills because they didn't have any.

There are American manufacturers of batteries, with the most famous being Tesla.

The chip is made in Taiwan.
The camera is made in Japan.
The screen is made in South Korea.
The RAM is made in the United States.
The SSD is made in Japan.
The glass is made in United States.
The modem is made in either South Korea or Taiwan (newer ones have an Apple-designed modem made by TSMC).
Look at this, the supply chain for just the iPhone involves a lot of different countries and companies working in tandem with each other to make sure this all works out in the end, there are countless other products with complicated supply chains as well and then King Orange over here said fuck it lets disrupt all of it because muh trade deficit

it isn't just me who realizes who how pants on retarded he got over this right?, something in me still believes you all supported this only because Trump was doing it, and not because you all genuinely believed that what he did was the right course to take.
 
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For example, the only parts of an iPhone made in China are the case and battery.

The case can be easily made by any machine shop with a CNC mill; Apple famously bought Foxconn their mills because they didn't have any.

There are competitive American manufacturers of batteries, with the most famous being Tesla.

The chip is made in Taiwan.
The camera is made in Japan.
The screen is made in South Korea.
The RAM is made in the United States.
The SSD is made in Japan.
The glass is made in United States.
The modem is made in either South Korea or Taiwan (newer ones have an Apple-designed modem made by TSMC).


Apple could easily make the iPhone in the US but Tim Cook wasted a trillion dollars building factories in China and the sunk cost fallacy has been keeping them there.
And Japan, SK, and Taiwan are all playing ball with the negotiations, so this exemption is starting to make more sense. Still sucks we need to rely on China for assembly, but hopefully part of the negotiations is moving assembly out of China.

hold on, isn't he also putting tariffs on Taiwan too?, what's goin on there anyway
Got paused, like with a lot of other countries willing to negotiate.
 
He walked back the tariff on electronics. Do you know who stands to gain the most from that? Taiwan. For every dollar China makes assembling and shipping an IPhone, Taiwan makes $15 for producing the parts. Taiwan and Trump have been doing a lot of negotiations and this change is more of a favor for Taiwan than China.
Taiwan, all the China, none of the communism.
 
Not quite. We pull a very sneaky trick in regards to this to basically keep China happy. The official phrasing is.

Basically we acknowledge that both sides claim to be the real China, but we don't say we think that ourselves. Just that we know THEY think it.
This whole situation is stupid and dangerous at the same time, you see, Taiwan, officially called the Republic of China, still claims the whole of mainland China as part of their territory, and its been that way since the end of the Chinese Civil War to today, China maintains that the island is simply in rebellion as part of the One-China policy, and they will unify...eventually at some point in the future, if Taiwan ever declares independence, that means that the policy is broken and that only means active war according to official doctrine.

We don't know if they'll actually do that, but Taiwan prefers to not have the possibility of total war on their island, so, for now, the status quo is maintained
 
Official US policy is that Taiwan is China. Been that way for decades.

Check this shit out, Apple Maps bro

First we have to check the calibration, make sure this baby is accurate

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GULF OF AMERICA FUCK YEAH BABY WOOOO
Ok so it’s accurate


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I was looking at Freedom China (that’s what we’re going to name Taiwan) and I noticed something weird, like extra islands, and I was like “are those some of those Chinese fake islands?”

Enhance

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What the shit is that!?

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Oh, it’s more Freedom China

Not Fagdom China

My take is we recognize one China sure sure, but maybe we mean Freedom China
 
On 4chan too... This is insane. Someone running a lotta bot accounts really doesn't care if they're found out anymore. That or this is a really BIG blunder.
This is pretty worrying, these people are just reposting the same message over and over, with no attempts to debate or write a coherant response.
Twitter monetization based on 'engagement' alone has led to a industry of South Asian (Indian) bot farms that do nothing but reply to each other and copy most-liked replied around popular accounts.

Thrifty democrats can't afford Correct the Record humans anymore and are just employing those bot farms, which is enough to fool the algos but is obvious to anyone reading for content.
 
I wanted to buy a new GPU, I was excited then I learned the tariff relief only applies to prebuilt goods.

it's speculated that the move that influenced this is apple's upcoming devices and the switch 2. I am sorry wasn't the whole point of this to stick it to "wallstreet" ? You are nakedly bending the rules to help bigger companies sell premade devices while lowering their custom built competitors. Also still "funding" (I use that in quotes but trumpster believe that a country trading with America is that country stealing from us and our government paying them)

This hurts the working class he claims to be fighting for by making overpriced prebuilt seem better priced because a custom built machine is artificially more expensive

How does anyone defend this ? I question how anyone defends Trump's tariffs at all but how does anyone defend this specifically ?
 
And Japan, SK, and Taiwan are all playing ball with the negotiations, so this exemption is starting to make more sense. Still sucks we need to rely on China for assembly, but hopefully part of the negotiations is moving assembly out of China
If this ends up being a double post sorry, but Foxconn has been shifting production from its main fagdom China factory to its new Vietnam factory
 
They would be divided a different way. China has a habit of shattering then reassembling it's self though civil war.
China is roughly the same size as America, but has about 3 times the population, and of course does not have American-style government nor a Constitution. Although maybe in an alternate timeline where communism was never made up, the Chinese could've copied the way America does things, since they seem to like copying? "United States of China"?

GULF OF AMERICA FUCK YEAH BABY WOOOO
Google Maps sorta acknowledges it, but it puts "Gulf of America" in parentheses after "Gulf of Mexico" though.
 
I wanted to buy a new GPU, I was excited then I learned the tariff relief only applies to prebuilt goods.

it's speculated that the move that influenced this is apple's upcoming devices and the switch 2. I am sorry wasn't the whole point of this to stick it to "wallstreet" ? You are nakedly bending the rules to help bigger companies sell premade devices while lowering their custom built competitors. Also still "funding" (I use that in quotes but trumpster believe that a country trading with America is that country stealing from us and our government paying them)

This hurts the working class he claims to be fighting for by making overpriced prebuilt seem better priced because a custom built machine is artificially more expensive

How does anyone defend this ? I question how anyone defends Trump's tariffs at all but how does anyone defend this specifically ?
You won't get a reasonable argument defending these actions, rather you are just getting called a dumb nigger for not understanding how much winning is happening right now.
 
Twitter monetization based on 'engagement' alone has led to a industry of South Asian (Indian) bot farms that do nothing but reply to each other and copy most-liked replied around popular accounts.

Thrifty democrats can't afford Correct the Record humans anymore and are just employing those bot farms, which is enough to fool the algos but is obvious to anyone reading for content.
the current anti-Trump backlash isn't caused by shills/bots/ShareBlue/50 cent Army lil bro, its from both the left AND some in the right, notice how there were not much pushback from right wing circles when he went after trannies, or illegals, or the federal bureaucrats, but only when he started cracking open the tariffs on a massive scale, because the economy affects EVERYONE regardless of where you stand, naturally some people will get worried about that and start saying not nice things about our president because of it.

I wanted to buy a new GPU, I was excited then I learned the tariff relief only applies to prebuilt goods.

it's speculated that the move that influenced this is apple's upcoming devices and the switch 2. I am sorry wasn't the whole point of this to stick it to "wallstreet" ? You are nakedly bending the rules to help bigger companies sell premade devices while lowering their custom built competitors. Also still "funding" (I use that in quotes but trumpster believe that a country trading with America is that country stealing from us and our government paying them)

This hurts the working class he claims to be fighting for by making overpriced prebuilt seem better priced because a custom built machine is artificially more expensive

How does anyone defend this ? I question how anyone defends Trump's tariffs at all but how does anyone defend this specifically ?
you retarded faggot, weren't you aware about Trump's policies concerning tariffs?, why didn't you do this before his inauguration?, you had plenty of time to deal with this problem.
 
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