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Unironically yes.

Let me try to explain.

Trump has been employing this technique for 10 years now. It's kind of amazing how no one notices the pattern even though it's repeated itself over a hundred times.
How do you bend a trillion dollar HOSTILE media to your will, and make them repeat your message? Impossible.

The key to the technique is that midwits are insecure about their intelligence. Not dumb per se, just insecure.
Because of this, when they perceive themselves to be superior to a public figure, they pounce. They can't resist. The validation sends their serotonin soaring.

Attach your message to some recoverable scandal. A mean tweet, an outrageous statement, an obvious lie, a misspelling, whatever you got.
All of America's midwits: liberals, groypers, the media, etc. swarm on it like piranhas, pushing the message to the far corners of public consciousness.

And in its wake, serious discussions break out. Every time.

It's the bell curve meme again. Idiots and high IQ people love Trump. The midwitted are absolutely positive he's an idiot, and will cackle like retards if you suggest otherwise.

>Durr durr cope cope cope, 4d chess, u fell for it again, hurr

Yet, public opinion always moves where he wants it to go.
Another problem most of the far right has (and I count myself on the far right) is that they confuse Trump being the furthest right a President has ever been with him actually being far right. So they're always shocked and dismayed when he doesn't hate Jews, or he doesn't demand that Congress end all immigration, or he appoints a FOID to his cabinet, etc.
 
If China bombed Japan would 'nobody give a fuck'? Or do you REALLY think the only thing on peoples' mind's nonstop is Israel? Maybe for you types it is, but most people in general would be a bit upset about things like this happening to those on our side.

But oh yeah Jew uber alles to your types in everything.
If Japan bombed China and then China bombed them back, nobody would give a fuck.
 
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I liked the part where Israel said it was just going after Nuclear and Military installations and then bombed a prison and their power grid. Next, they'll drill a missile into a High School full of kids and say it was actually a secret, underground bunker where the "real" nuclear program was being developed.
Israel always strikes water plants, sewerage plants, bridges and power infrastructure. Their goal is to make life as unpleasant as possible for civilians, not just to hit military targets.
 
Iran became our enemy from the moment they took hostages at our embassy. They are religious fanatics who fund terrorism through their proxies and the reason I don't want them to have nukes is because I don't trust them to use them only as a deterrent.
Gee whiz, I hope you use the same metric towards the chosenites
 
There’s an absolutely massive Israeli bot/shill campaign on Twitter and Reddit that started last night. They’re trying to convince Americans that everyone else wants to go to war with Iran.

Every conservative influencer’s replies are full of short generic pro-war comments that don’t reference anything in the original tweet like human tweets do. The accounts almost always have either a cross, American flag, or MAGA in their bio/name. They will also attack any normie who disagrees with them by calling them a bot, pointing out their small number of followers for their account age; the bot accounts typically have a few thousand followers whereas most normies have a few hundred at most because they’re not trying to gain them.

Anti-war protest posts on local subreddits are full of highly upvoted copy-pasted comments saying that Iran can’t have a nuclear weapon and all opposition is downvoted. This is the exact opposite “consensus” I’d expect Reddit to have and when the protests were about Palestine/ICE/Trump/Musk, every anti-protest comment was downvoted.
In hindsight, it would be foolish to dismantle the perfectly functional propaganda machine the previous admin left behind. I hate that this is only site I can trust. (Thanks, Null).
 
For the supposedly smartest people on earth they seem to have awful predictive abilities and even worse pattern recognition.
Why haven't they learned their lesson? Its because of their insane amounts of arrogance, all the way up to hubris. These people believe that they can rules-lawyer GOD, an omniscient and omnipotent being through their own human, flawed, and imprecise understanding of His Divine Will. Once you start looking into the mental gymnastics they contort themselves into to claim that things like; running a string around their house, sacrificing chickens, sucking mutilated baby dicks, etc, all somehow make them immune to God's Judgement you will see what I mean. They make Sovereign Citizens look sane, grounded, and humble by comparison.

Once you understand that these people think they can outwit GOD, it becomes obvious that they'd think they are able to control whatever golem they manifest, whether it be the COVID situation, the economy, the Afghanistan withdrawal, and so on. Whenever one scheme fails, it is inevitable that the next Jew will smugly say to himself, "Ah, but I'm so much smarter than Schlomo and GOD, surely I can make it work!"

And around and around we go.
 
Problem is Japan is an ally , and since they do not have the tendency of dragging us in to 20yr sand wars? A well liked one as well. So yes, Americans would care/help if China bombed Japan
Hell, chinks bomb Japan and Oda (author of One Piece) dies from it and you suddenly have a multination crusade to sink the chink. The amount of bloodlust that would generate dwarfs any sort of fake morality about bombing sandnigger kids or kikes.
 
The same three takes for fifty pages. I love being featured (This is one of the three takes, btw)
  • Jews good
  • Jews bad
  • Trump good
  • Trump bad
  • Iran bad
  • Bombing Iran good
  • This will totally ensure a complete wipeout of Republicns at every election for the next 20 years (x187 instances of this thanks to @Fatpacks)
  • Newsome will be the next president
Good, we can all log off now and get on with our lives.
 
I mean that covers Beirut, although the Marines were there as peacekeepers, but which Iranian proxies were we countering in Iraq? That's why ginsu'd their one general.
Iraq is a Shia majority state. Saddam's regime was an undemocratic, secular, but ethnically Sunni minority government. We thought it would be a bright idea to overthrow him and let the people decide who to run them. The very predictable outcome of this is for the people to elect a Shia government. Only at this point did we go 'oh shit, now we have to make sure this natural ally of Iran never becomes an actual ally of Iran.' Hence the forever war.

This war was a retarded three-way fight. You had the Ba'athist remnants (secular), who opposed us for obvious regions. You had the Saudi-backed Sunni Salafi groups, who were associated with al-Qaeda and, later, ISIS. And then you had the Special Groups, who were Shia and Iran-aligned, being funded by the Ayatollah and even directly swearing loyalty to him in some cases. We ostensibly supported the leader of the democratically elected government, yet that leader used the Special Groups to counter Sunni insurgencies and to mop up the remnants of Saddam loyalists, and so his entire power base was loyal to Iran. Our soldiers were constantly being sniped at by both Shia and Salafi groups during our occupation, both of which were acting as catspaws for Iran and the Saudis, respectively.

The Iraqi army then folded like a paper fan when we left and ISIS swept in. When Trump intervened and crushed ISIS, a big factor in the victory was the fact that these Special Groups were officially folded in to the Iraqi command structure as the PMF, and these forces were much more effective than Iraq's army had been. However the relationship immediately soured, as the allied Shia forces claimed that they were being bombed by Israeli drones in 2019 and that America was turning a blind eye. The inability of Trump to respond to these accusations (because he is Israel's bitch) let to a fatwa against American troops in Iraq, which Trump then responded to by bombing several of their bases. This was then followed up by us bombing several more of their bases and assassinating Soleimani. We have been bombing them since, and they have become more aggressive towards our troops, who were previously treated as allies against the Islamic State.

This is part of why I hate Israel. We can't do shit in the Middle East because they constantly fuck everything up and bribe/blackmail our politicians to let them do whatever they want. It would have been great for us to leave Iraq as a buffer state between the Saudis and Iran, in which they would fight one another to exhaustion for the foreseeable future. But Israel would never tolerate that, because the Iranian presence in Iraq allows them to smuggle weapons to their proxies near Israel. I understand Israel having this position, but them turning us into their instrument in doing so harms larger American/Western interests in the Middle East. In this case, it soured our relationship with a very effective ally, one which is now folded into the Iraqi state, causing unnecessary friction in a region which is volatile enough as it is and putting American soldiers in more danger.
turkey yes, but i really don't see the saudis having imperial ambition.
my impression is that they are perfectly content with their state as is, their foreign policy seems aimed only at securing stability for their state and wealth for their family.
there is lots of corruption and incompetence in the house of saud, but little to no appetite for territorial expansion or regional hegemony.
They have catspaws throughout the region, just as the Iranians do. The Saudi based Salafi-network stretches into Central Asia, Europe, and across North Africa. They are far, far more assiduous when it comes to having their fingers in every pie than the Turks or even the Iranians. Then there's their governing ideology. The Saudis follow the teachings of Salafism, which stem from the Islamic scholar Ibn Taymiyya. His views on politics can be summed up in one of his favored aphorisms, drawn from Hadith: 'A king is the shadow of God on His earth. Who honors him will be honored by God, and who despises him will be despised by God.' Their view of Monarchy is absolute, and they view all non-Salafi sects of Islam as heretical, even other Sunnis. The Saudis spread soft power by using their oil money to fund and spread Salafism - the money is a means to an end (power), not an end itself.

Before the Saudis came to power, Salafism was an obscure sect relegated to the margins of Arabia, in the desolate Najd. With oil money at their disposal, it has spread like wildfire not just through the Middle East but through the rest of the world as well. Look up which kind of mosque just about any terrorist in the West went to and you'll start to notice a bit of a pattern. And wherever it spreads, so does Saudi influence.
 
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I'll be honest... I don't think we should've gotten involved here but as long as we don't get into a long drawn out ground war I don't really care if we bomb a target here and there. He did that in his first term too dropping bombs on ISIS but maybe people don't remember that.
That said fuck Israel and Iran. The entire Middle East needs to be glassed.
 
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