Video Game Chat Thread - Pre-Alpha Experimental Version

[Fagnacious D]

Steamboxes never took off because they were overpriced, underpowered Debian OS PCs aimed at a market that doesn't give a shit about computers. Imagine buying one blind as a console gamer because you read a bunch of idiots online busting a nut over Steam and PC gaming in general:

• over half of everything on Steam won't work on your machine because it's not running Windows, and Proton won't be released for several years
• everything you try starts up in 4:3 stretched and you think that's just how it's supposed to be because you don't know about changing graphic settings
• some games have controls that just don't work despite the store page saying they work with your Steam Controller, but you don't know that you're supposed to configure all the controls yourself
• then you buy a brand new game that just came out and surprise surprise it runs like total shit and looks terrible compared to the console versions because it's one of those retarded games that defaults to everything running at high settings but at a low resolution and has shit like godrays enabled by default

I don't know what they were thinking. It's kind of reminiscent of the PlayStation TV in a weird way: both had next to no marketing, game libraries where a lot of titles just won't run, and the only people who cared are enthusiasts that had better ways to play their games anyway.

and yet the Google Stadia is still so much worse in every manner.

 

[EmpGulcasa]

The data collection thing is allowed by Steam's TOS and it's not a unique situation.

However it's being used entirely for the marketing of Playstation so they can collect user's parts data and what manufacturers they use so any mid generation update to the PS5 or future playstation will factor in parts that will draw people from PC over to console. Steamboxes never took off because the PS4 existed, so there is a lot of logic behind it. It's also routinely done by all popular smartphone games so many people have probably already done something similar without realizing it.

So really any and all future PC ports are all going to be designed like this. They're only giving PC some crumbs so people will eventually want the full experience.

Nobody who doesn't already have a PS5 is going to drop PC for PS5 even if Sony upgrades it a little bit. By the time they release the PS5 Pro or whatever, PCs will have upgraded further. Trying to compete with PCs is a stupid, stupid move for consoles.

and yet the Google Stadia is still so much worse in every manner.

Stadia isn't great but at least it runs the few games it has well. I 100%'d Jedi Fallen Order and have just started Judgement (the only 2 games on the thing I care about, after this I'll probably never log in again until the Judgement sequel) and they both look and run great.

Unrelated to all that, how is Star Citizen doing these days? I haven't seen it talked about in a few years. Is it still just a string of tech demos with no actual release in sight or have they made some progress?

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Nobody who doesn't already have a PS5 is going to drop PC for PS5 even if Sony upgrades it a little bit. By the time they release the PS5 Pro or whatever, PCs will have upgraded further. Trying to compete with PCs is a stupid, stupid move for consoles.

Consoles aren't competing with PC, they're the rulers of PC and have been for some time and at this point PC holds consoles back. Every new console is RT capable, every new console have a super-fast SSD, unlike PC, so games can't be built around that if they're going to be multi-platform.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Nobody who doesn't already have a PS5 is going to drop PC for PS5 even if Sony upgrades it a little bit. By the time they release the PS5 Pro or whatever, PCs will have upgraded further. Trying to compete with PCs is a stupid, stupid move for consoles.

They're targeting the people who run shit on toasters who have disputable performance among many multiplat titles. So switching to a console could be made more appealing to them if the price and performance are right. These are people who usually don't upgrade their PCs or are the ones who buy pre-builts.

And well considering we're going on 7 years of bloodborne begging there's certainly enough to warrant investigating and gathering data. This is pretty much the caveat to the whole thing. Sony of Japan is driving all avenues of the company towards somehow being in service of playstation. I mean we haven't had this much supplementary media being in production to advertise games since the late 80's and early 90's. And this is just across the board, we have a new Nintendo theme park, mario Movie, and possibly a new Mario TV series, a new Sonic TV series, a new Sonic Movie Sequel, a fuckload of HBO Playstation shows, anime being made that's based on long running game series, and possibly a crash and spyro TV series.

 

[ZMOT]

Steamboxes never took off because they were overpriced, underpowered Debian OS PCs aimed at a market that doesn't give a shit about computers. Imagine buying one blind as a console gamer because you read a bunch of idiots online busting a nut over Steam and PC gaming in general:

the main problem was there was no standard. valve's usual approach is to put something out, sit back and let the playerbase handle it, but that doesn't work if you want to sell hardware - hence underpowered shit sold at a premium to retards.
all they needed to do was have baseline hardware profiles you have to hit, so every casual knows how the games will run. I pains me to say it, but microsoft's "windows experience score" was a step in the right direction. ask yourself, why do people buy consoles? to pay more more for worse hardware with added service fees, or knowing they can just buy a game, pop it into their console, and that shit will run like in the videos? convenience is king, and it's incredible how valve missed the mark so hard when they pretty much nailed it with software (most of the time).

Consoles aren't competing with PC, they're the rulers of PC and have been for some time and at this point PC holds consoles back. Every new console is RT capable, every new console have a super-fast SSD, unlike PC, so games can't be built around that if they're going to be multi-platform.

options sweety, you know you can disable half that shit on pc, right?
not to mention the majority are indie games, but sure those totally care about raytracing and fast loading times...

 

[Groundbreaking-maize]

I picked up Days Gone, and it's kind of nice.

Nice write up, getting it as soon as it's on sale.

 

[Quantum Diabetes]

Knockout city launched and it feels like Rocket Arena part 2.

It's structured like a free to play game with lots of grindy achievements. I'd like it better if it didn't make my old Xbox overheat and shutdown every other time I launch it.

 

[Lovecraft's Cat]

Knockout city launched and it feels like Rocket Arena part 2.

It's structured like a free to play game with lots of grindy achievements. I'd like it better if it didn't make my old Xbox overheat and shutdown every other time I launch it.

Take the PC redpill

 

[Elysian]

I don't know if anybody here remembers how I couldn't get the sound to work in the Bejeweled games (or any of the really old PopCap stuff for that matter) but the sound is magically working again now. I have a theory that the issue was exactly the same one that I was having with Rune Classic - in that game the sound wasn't working until I changed the Windows 10 desktop UI scaling from 150% back down to 100% at which point it magically started working for reasons that I still don't understand. Now that I have a new monitor that's bigger than the tiny old TV I was using as a placeholder I don't have to upscale the Windows 10 UI to be able to read it better, and therefore because the UI scaling sits at the base value 100% all the time now the sound in the Bejeweled games actually works. I have no idea why old PC games on Windows 10 are so picky about screen resolution and UI size and how that relates to the sound in any way whatsoever but hey at least it works now.

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

This is some sort of ruse, right? Surely if it ever goes back in stock, it won’t be this cheap.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Take the PC redpill

So those Playstation PC ports are apparently geared towards China, India, and Russia. Those are the markets that play PC and their PC systems are shit enough to find a PS5 an upgrade to what they're using. Places like Korea and the US are not the primary markets for ports like that since they both want to buy consoles.

The next one is supposedly Uncharted 4, but yes the proud master race is nothing but Pajeets, drunks, and gold farmers.

You sit among an ever shrinking gated community, white man. It's literally South African-tier.

 

[ZMOT]

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This is some sort of ruse, right? Surely if it ever goes back in stock, it won’t be this cheap.

it's physical, so at one point they need to make space for new stock, hence fire sale price.
you can usually see it with a whole pile of bombed games in the bargain bin, the same principle applies.

 

[LightDragonman1]

Just finished replaying Wolfenstein The New Order (and got all the Steam Achievements for it as well).

I gotta say, even though the entries after it kind of dropped the ball, it still holds up really well. Heck, it's easily one of my favorite shooters from the 2010s, and one of my favorites period.

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

it's physical, so at one point they need to make space for new stock, hence fire sale price.
you can usually see it with a whole pile of bombed games in the bargain bin, the same principle applies.

Nope, it says code only.

 

[ZMOT]

Just finished replaying Wolfenstein The New Order (and got all the Steam Achievements for it as well).

I gotta say, even though the entries after it kind of dropped the ball, it still holds up really well. Heck, it's easily one of my favorite shooters from the 2010s, and one of my favorites period.

stopped playing midway because the story became just too nonsensical and the caricatures too silly. apparently the exaggerated retarded nazis running around were competent enough to hold on to absolute power for 20 years while getting completely blindsided when some dude rambos it's way to the capital and let a resistance movement exist the whole time?
I don't need highly intellectual backstory for my killing nazis simulator, but is it too much to ask to put some effort in? even 2009 was better than that imo.

Nope, it says code only.

well, no idea then. maybe some intern punched in the wrong price for the wrong game. last official price was still $35 according to isthereanydeal, so good luck.

 

[Chili_Shambo_4919]

Played Mad Max, thought it was alright, it just really didn't have anything that could keep me hooked that much apart from wanting a car deadlier than the roaming enemies', i'm pretty sure that's the only thing that pushed me towards grinding side stories and exploring other locations, the story was decent but nothing too amazing, i must say that even if some people disagree, the pursuit special (or black on black) is easily one of the shittiest end-game rewards you can ever get in a game.

 

[ducktales4gameboy]

Shadowrun Returns was good for that.

Dead Man's Switch is too easy. Hong Kong is lethargic. Dragonfall is best. I rolled a Troll Adept, which is almost a contradiction in terms. I named him Mauer, which is German for "Wall." I did not train him to use a katana, which halved his damage output. No cyberware apart from the Adrenal Pump you normally get. This is essentially playing the game on hard mode. Mauer was slow on his feet and couldn't use firearms. I tried to max out his STR without sacrificing the needed buffs. By chance, he landed the killing blow on the last boss, ramming his spiked gauntlet through Audran's chest repeatedly.

I'm glad to hear I wasn't the only one who hated Hong Kong. Dragonfall was a blast though and reminded me of the old Spiderweb Software rpgs I used to suck at as a kid.

Steamboxes never took off because they were overpriced, underpowered Debian OS PCs aimed at a market that doesn't give a shit about computers.

I still feel like they came close but whiffed at the last moment. There should've been one single steambox hardware variant with a low pricepoint and fixed hardware specs. Bundle a cheap wireless keyboard and mouse, a copy of the orange box and no gamepad. Offer the steam controller, a headset and a steam gift card in a more expensive sku.

If they did this they could easily shim a performance tool into Steam itself and have games autopopulate with their performance metrics. Seeing 'RUNS ON STEAMBOX - EXCELLENT - 1080p60 MEDIUM' in a game's infobox would be a big selling point and very useful even if you didn't have a steambox.

it's physical, so at one point they need to make space for new stock, hence fire sale price.
you can usually see it with a whole pile of bombed games in the bargain bin, the same principle applies.

Dropping in from the collectors market thread with the forever protip: If you have a physical GameStop nearby and are willing to drop some spare cash on long term investments go raid their clearance section every couple weeks and buy anything under 5 dollars that's sealed and not by a big name publisher. You're guaranteed about a 10$ ROI on almost everything at minimum if you're willing to wait a few years.

 

[Pig Boss]

I'm glad to hear I wasn't the only one who hated Hong Kong. Dragonfall was a blast though and reminded me of the old Spiderweb Software rpgs I used to suck at as a kid.

The only redeeming quality Hong Kong has is the updated models, they're pretty good, I know you can move the DMS story into Dragonfall, I wonder if you can play the Dragonfall story in the Hong Kong edition for the better Shamans and updated models.

 

[whatever I feel like]

(Video game journalist) Kat Bailey is a tranny right? The voice definitely says so but my Googlefu must be rusty because I can't find anything other than the occasional pro-tranny article. No deadname or anything. Can anyone confirm or deny?

And there are the pregnancy pics. I guess that deconfirms it.

 

[Esmeraude]

I'm going to play Breath of the Wild for the first time soon so I'm putting my ducks in a row now before it arrives so I can no life it for a while lmao