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Are videogames for children?


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Why, arr yoo trying someding illegal? Because online illegalness is illegal. Would you pirate a car?
Just curious, since there are a lot of homebrew games sold on actual cartridges out there you can buy, and Steam seems like it'd be the best way to sell those to a wider audience. Just rig up a libretro emulator to boot the game without a frontend, and voila, instant PC version.

I'm not counting retro collections like Sega Genesis Classics or Atari Vault either, since they're obviously selling old games, and those are always just collections of roms in a fancy frontend.

I doubt it, besides the DOS games you mentioned like BLOOD etc. Maybe GOG does it?

That's entirely possible, though I don't know of any they sell that I could check. I know that some of the Wisdom Tree games are on Steam (those NES Bible games), though those are all the (bad) DOS versions. Another game I checked was Coffee Crisis, sold on a Genesis cart, though the developer said the PC version was built from the ground up.
 
Just curious, since there are a lot of homebrew games sold on actual cartridges out there you can buy, and Steam seems like it'd be the best way to sell those to a wider audience. Just rig up a libretro emulator to boot the game without a frontend, and voila, instant PC version.
If someone's making homebrew shit on dead consoles they're probably not the type that's worrying about mass market appeal to be honest. That aside the big problem with using emulators is that licencing for them often doesn't allow for commercial use, so they're not really an option unless you can develop your own. Another problem that exist's that they require considerably more power than a direct port would, so it really wouldn't make sense unless you really wanted to port it and had no other choice.
 
I'm still not sure why most people don't just put the rom file on itch or gumroad as well as the cartridge option
 
Oh wow. Diablo 4 is actually an ARP, not an fps. It looks okay, but the cinematic just, ruined any ties to the previous games. Good fucking job, cucks.

Bye black man.
 
Just curious, since there are a lot of homebrew games sold on actual cartridges out there you can buy, and Steam seems like it'd be the best way to sell those to a wider audience. Just rig up a libretro emulator to boot the game without a frontend, and voila, instant PC version.

I'm not counting retro collections like Sega Genesis Classics or Atari Vault either, since they're obviously selling old games, and those are always just collections of roms in a fancy frontend.

Piko Interactive have been buying old unreleased games for old consoles and such then selling them on steam after finishing them up, there's probably some homebrew as well.

The thing that made me take notice of Piko was Dorke & Ymp, I hadn't heard anything about that game in over 20 years, it was long dead. The game was originally being developed by two Swedish guys, in a cellar in Stockholm's old town, for the SNES back in 1993 or around that time. They had created their own devkit and tools because they were indies and back then there were heavy restrictions and requirements on who could get one, especially from Nintendo. No poors allowed.

Argonaut did a similar thing and I think the Excitebike 64 devs might have had a similar journey where they hacked something together without a devkit, but for Dorke & Ymp it didn't go anywhere and it was a bummer. It was not that the game looked great, it looked Amiga as hell because they were Amiga guys, but they were local talent with an interesting story and as a kid I was rooting for them.
 
Man, Modern Warfare is more fun than I expected. While the campaign is pretty obviously sympathetic to the Kurds and white helmets, it was very well written and executed. Also the multiplayer is exciting and fun as long as you stay the hell away from the 64 player game mode and stick to smaller team game modes or hardcore ones. Everyone irl I know refuses to buy the game because "muh cawwadooty bad" meme that they have spouted since MW2 so I decided to rant about it here.
 
So this is a stupid question, but is there anywhere I can go to find high quality files of G4's cinematech? The best I can find are on youtube but I'm just wondering if there's anywhere else that I can find them.

 
Not sure if this should go here or in the Culture Wars thread, but I've been pondering something.

Do you think we'll see a video game equivalent of the recent Joker movie?

As in, a game that pretty much goes against the norm and is preemptively hated by the SJW crowd to the point that they launch a massive smear campaign against it, but despite the odds, ends up being a massive success?

I think Cyberpunk 2077 might still have the potential to pull that off, but I'm less optimistic about that game than I was a few months ago.
 
Just set up MAME so now I can play Fantasy Zone, it's awesome sequel (The 2000's System 16C version not the bummy original) and as many booby arcade games where the woman turns into an unlicenced appearance of a popular horror character if you run out of time as I like!

Not sure if this should go here or in the Culture Wars thread, but I've been pondering something.

Do you think we'll see a video game equivalent of the recent Joker movie?

As in, a game that pretty much goes against the norm and is preemptively hated by the SJW crowd to the point that they launch a massive smear campaign against it, but despite the odds, ends up being a massive success?

I think Cyberpunk 2077 might still have the potential to pull that off, but I'm less optimistic about that game than I was a few months ago.
Mordhau, Bombshell, Kingdom Come: Deliverance. I could go on.

There hasn't been a real "fuck you" game yet though...
 
These tweets pretty much prove to me that New Vegas‘ success was a fluke and Chris Avallone and Josh Sawyer are hacks.

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Anyone having trouble updating their ps4 to 7.00? I can't sign in for some reason but everything's above board.
 
The NCR are the worst faction in Fallout New Vegas and I always go for either Independent Vegas or Caesar's Legion.

Agreed on NCR, they had that fart huffing hubris where they saw themselves as the good guys and they would always be the good guys meaning that they would be able to commit atrocities and shrug it off, because they are the good guys so what they did could not have been an evil act. Caesar's Legion were upfront about who they were and what they were up to, as fucked up as it was, and as a player it was easy to understand what their goals were, how it would be accomplished and know with great certainty what the region would look like under them. Do I want that or do I not want that, it was more clear cut. With the NCR it seemed to be more bickering, bureaucracy and bullshit, whatever they wished to do seemed like it could collapse from within because of politics and it would leave people fucked. The Legion were at least stable.

So I went with independent New Vegas because I can't play bad/evil characters. I can say nigger and call arabs scum on the internet but being mean in a single-player video game is deeply uncomfortable. I always appreciate the choice though.
 
Agreed on NCR, they had that fart huffing hubris where they saw themselves as the good guys and they would always be the good guys meaning that they would be able to commit atrocities and shrug it off, because they are the good guys so what they did could not have been an evil act. Caesar's Legion were upfront about who they were and what they were up to, as fucked up as it was, and as a player it was easy to understand what their goals were, how it would be accomplished and know with great certainty what the region would look like under them. Do I want that or do I not want that, it was more clear cut. With the NCR it seemed to be more bickering, bureaucracy and bullshit, whatever they wished to do seemed like it could collapse from within because of politics and it would leave people fucked. The Legion were at least stable.

So I went with independent New Vegas because I can't play bad/evil characters. I can say nigger and call arabs scum on the internet but being mean in a single-player video game is deeply uncomfortable. I always appreciate the choice though.

Yeah, I never once considered siding with the NCR, though I've tried to side with The Legion a couple of times, only to get sidetracked. The game seems to really wanna funnel you towards making an independent New Vegas.

You've got the platinum chip, now do you want to hand it over to a ruler with an iron fist who confiscated your weaponry on arrival that could have you killed with a snap of his fingers, or do you wanna go about your merry way, install it into Mr. House's army of securitrons, and make New Vegas great again on your own? Hmm. 🤔
 
Looking at the thread about Polygon's newest clickbait article about Gone Home, I've been thinking about what game would be the most influential or most important for each decade?

If I had to pick one for each decade, these would be my picks.

1970's: Pong
1980's: The Legend of Zelda
1990's: Doom (This decade is hard to pick just one game because the 90's had a lot of innovative games)
2000's: Grand Theft Auto III
2010's: Minecraft (or maybe Dark Souls)
 
Looking at the thread about Polygon's newest clickbait article about Gone Home, I've been thinking about what game would be the most influential or most important for each decade?

If I had to pick one for each decade, these would be my picks.

1970's: Pong
1980's: The Legend of Zelda
1990's: Doom (This decade is hard to pick just one game because the 90's had a lot of innovative games)
2000's: Grand Theft Auto III
2010's: Minecraft (or maybe Dark Souls)
That's a pretty hard list to argue, though gaming is so broad that I'd really have to sit and think. Narrowing it down to five games excludes games that brought entire genres to life and set standards that would continue on forever. Like World of Warcraft, which more or less made MMORPGs accessible to the mainstream, or even Windows Solitare, a game that introduced many people who never noticed computer games to the world of casual time-killers. Angry Birds was the first game of countless kids born around 2010, and Guitar Hero brought forth a music game renaissance.

Though, I think that list makes sense. I wouldn't say Dark Souls belongs, though, since that's definitely more of a gamer's game than anything else, while Minecraft is accessible to absolutely everyone with its sheer versatility.

Super Mario Bros. might actually be #1 for the 80's, though. It managed to actually have physics - the direction mushrooms and stars go is based on which side of the ? box you hit, Mario gradually loses momentum when he stops, kicked shells fly off platforms at an angle, things like that. I don't think there were any platformers anything much like it before then, and the 2D platformer is one of the few genres to actually come back to life. It even meshes well with other genres, like puzzles (Oddworld) and roguelikes (Spelunky). Hell, Mega Man is still going, despite some long gaps between games, but they always sell well.
 
That's a pretty hard list to argue, though gaming is so broad that I'd really have to sit and think. Narrowing it down to five games excludes games that brought entire genres to life and set standards that would continue on forever. Like World of Warcraft, which more or less made MMORPGs accessible to the mainstream, or even Windows Solitare, a game that introduced many people who never noticed computer games to the world of casual time-killers. Angry Birds was the first game of countless kids born around 2010, and Guitar Hero brought forth a music game renaissance.

My line of thinking is the 70's could be defined by one game but after that it needs to become increasingly granular. 80's is no good, 80-85 and 86-90 seems more fair, or split the 80's into three sections.
Into the nineties it needs to be defined into shorter sections, after 95 it should probably go year by year, things happened so quickly. Jumping forward in time there cannot be one singular thing that defines a period because the audience is so big and genres, platforms or type of games have branched off into their own things and can be completely insular from each other.
Dark Souls have had a huge influence from big to small gameplay decisions that can be seen in many games, is that more important than King and their mobile games and the millions of old ladies that found out that playing games weren't just for their grandchildren? There might be more grandmas playing Bubblewitch than the combined total of people that have played Dark Souls. If you had asked the grandmas 10-15-20 years ago if they could ever be really into playing a video game and they would have said no, without hesitation. Something big happened there.
I like Dark Souls but I can't claim that old ladies with puzzle games are wrong or that someone playing horse mystery games should switch genre.

A visual illustration of my thinking would be a tree, growing from nut to stem, to thick stem, to the first branches and finally a big canopy of leaves from many, many branches. That's how games have evolved and that's the current state of games.

In conclusion, Polygon can go fuck themselves and if they felt the need to wax politically about the importance and impact of a game, socially and politically, they could have chosen Tetris like everyone else over the last 20 years.

In fact, I think Tetris should be codified as the best game ever made and it can't ever be changed. You might not think it is the best, I sure as hell don't, but that's just how it is now and Tetris will be at the center of everything like a north star. Where is Dark Souls in relation to Tetris? Not very close, obviously. Slime Rancher, closer to Tetris than DS but on the south side, etc, etc. At least we will have some common direction to refer to.
 
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