Video Game Chat Thread - Pre-Alpha Experimental Version

[Jonah Hill poster]

I don’t know if I’ve ever agreed that much with @Marissa Moira and her opinions, but I have to give it to her: Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana is a really good game.

Between this and Ys Origins, I’m just surprised that I hadn’t heard about this much sooner.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Replaying Fallout 4 and Yakuza Kiwami 2 like hell.
And to remind all, Kiwami remakes are the remakes, not a pathetic excuse to remake even the plot itself like FF7R.
Nothing more to say.

 

[LightDragonman1]

Now that I have gone on my stealth game spree, for a bit, I think my top ones for now are as follows.

1. Tie between Metal Gear Solid 2 and Metal Gear Solid 3
2. Thief II The Metal Age
3. Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
4. Hitman Blood Money
5. Mark Of The Ninja
6. Escape From Butcher Bay
7. Dishonored

What are your favorites? Do have any recommendations for stealth titles?

I heard Tenchu Wrath Of Heaven, Shadow Tactics, Aragami, Echo, and Styx Shards Of Darkness are pretty good. You played any of those ones?

 

[trent]

The Apple v Epic courtcase had a bit of interesting info about has Microsoft has literally never turned a profit on console sales.

 

[Sucrose]

Now that I have gone on my stealth game spree, for a bit, I think my top ones for now are as follows.

1. Tie between Metal Gear Solid 2 and Metal Gear Solid 3
2. Thief II The Metal Age
3. Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
4. Hitman Blood Money
5. Mark Of The Ninja
6. Escape From Butcher Bay
7. Dishonored

What are your favorites? Do have any recommendations for stealth titles?

I heard Tenchu Wrath Of Heaven, Shadow Tactics, Aragami, Echo, and Styx Shards Of Darkness are pretty good. You played any of those ones?

I really wanted Velvet Assassin to be good.

I completed it twice trying to kid myself into thinking it was good.

It was not good.


If you want something a bit different though Haunting Ground isn't known as a "stealth" game but there's a lot of hiding, avoiding etc. It's a pretty weird survival horror but super enjoyable!

 

[ZMOT]

The Apple v Epic courtcase had a bit of interesting info about has Microsoft has literally never turned a profit on console sales.

you mean hardware? if it's just that it doesn't really matter, it's an acceptable loss if you make up for it in software and services. you gotta spend some to get some.

I don’t know if I’ve ever agreed that much with @Marissa Moira and her opinions, but I have to give it to her: Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana is a really good game.

Between this and Ys Origins, I’m just surprised that I hadn’t heard about this much sooner.

Ys is the series everybody heard of but no one ever played. VIII was also published by nisa, lot of the target demograpic has a hard "no buy" stance for everything those turds fuck up, which sadly includes Ys VIII since it had plenty of issues. unless the nips get their head out of their asses and look for a proper western publisher they don't really deserve any money, it's the only way to get the message across.

 

[trent]

you mean hardware? if it's just that it doesn't really matter, it's an acceptable loss if you make up for it in software and services. you gotta spend some to get some.

Yeah sorry that's what i meant.

Makes sense as to why they are pushing gamepass so hard but i have to wonder how many people did the cheapo 3 year thing, i know i did.

 

[Cubanodun]

Has anyone played flashback very nice platformer that I would recommend

Very good, even when everyone keep calling it "the futuristic prince of persia" or shit like that, the remake is aids and Out of this world was going to get the same treatment if the creator did not stop the business suit that actually fucked his game with the sequel but him and everyone else pretend it doesnt exist

I was cleaning backlog during the time i was offline and went deep in Phantasy star 1

Spoiler: Thing that did not aged well

For starters i will admit that i got the retranslated Master System game, but no one told me about the options to reduce the rate of encounters and rise the exp/money gain and went with the vanilla unmodded experience, i passed almost 3 days lost in the planet of ice searching for obtuse shit like the special seed/nut/forgot what it was to make Miau fly to the sky palace, had to literally burn my data plan to get the maps of the dungeons that came with the American version of the game because the dungeons are totally ass

After my return i told about the game in Discord and they ask me if i was insane to do it unmodded, i told them that i dont use cheats in game unless it has some kind of game breaking bug that required one, they told me that the PS2 Remaster and the SEGA AGES version of Phantasy star 1 come with increased money/exp gain because otherwise is absolutely rapetastic in many ways the only supposed "cheat" that came ON by default was the increased walking speed that i did not notice until i checked the menu




Playing 2 now and laughing and how supposed tragic events pass so fast that you barely have time to even feel anything like the thing that happened in the tunnel to the third city that a bandit is killing people for money but in a dungeon you discover that a gang kidnapped his daughter and he is doing for money, you rescue her in a dungeon and to prevent the gang noticing her you cover her face, when you arrive to the tunnel she tried to talk to her dad to show she is safe but did not remove the cover in her head so her father accidentally kill her when he finally notice he blow himself in the tunnel and the cast just waste 1 frame of text saying that they should do better to prevent this and moved on

 

[Water-T]

Very good, even when everyone keep calling it "the futuristic prince of persia" or shit like that, the remake is aids and Out of this world was going to get the same treatment if the creator did not stop the business suit that actually fucked his game with the sequel but him and everyone else pretend it doesnt exist

I loved the first Flashback and Out of This World/Another World a lot. I hated the Flashback "sequel" Fade to Black, that most people never played much less heard of, so I hope the rumoured sequel ends up pretending it never happened. Never played the "World" sequel since it was a Sega CD exclusive. As for Flashback's remake, I kind of liked it but never finished it (too much work and personal shit got in the way and by the time I dealt with it I moved on to other games).

I was cleaning backlog during the time i was offline and went deep in Phantasy star 1

The optimal way to play PS1 is the SEGA AGES version on the Switch, which has many quality of life tweaks like a built in auto-map, better menu systems that give more details about the stuff you buy/find, and a lower encounter rate with more exp/money earned in battles to reduce grinding. You can still lock yourself out by saving in the wrong place or dropping the wrong item, so caveat emptor.

As for PS 2, the graphics and music hold up - as well as that twist ending - but the battles are slow, the dungeons overstay their welcome, and way too much grinding is needed. I heard there was a Japan exclusive remake on PlayStation 2 that redid the graphics, but not sure if it did anything about my complaints.

PS III is the bastard child of the bunch, where it doesn't look and feel like part of the series, and the connection is not apparent until the end. It's like Chrono Cross, where I suspect it wasn't initially intended to be a Chrono Trigger sequel until Square realized the game would sell 100x better if they crammed some references to CT in various spots and at the end. The colors look so washed out and the battle menu is shite.

Finally, there is PS IV. The shining jewel of the series. All I can says is if you only play one Phantasy Star, make it this one. A nearly perfect game. It cost about $80 to $120 when it came out in late 94/early 95, but now it came be gotten cheap on the several Genesis collections that Sega shits out every console generation.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

I loved the first Flashback and Out of This World/Another World a lot. I hated the Flashback "sequel" Fade to Black, that most people never played much less heard of, so I hope the rumoured sequel ends up pretending it never happened. Never played the "World" sequel since it was a Sega CD exclusive. As for Flashback's remake, I kind of liked it but never finished it (too much work and personal shit got in the way and by the time I dealt with it I moved on to other games).

Fade to Black was actually pretty popular on PC at the time. If anyone is curious about what the game is like I would say it's part OG Tomb Raider(puzzling) and part Gears of War(moving like a truck).

 

[Cubanodun]

I heard there was a Japan exclusive remake on PlayStation 2 that redid the graphics, but not sure if it did anything about my complaints.

Checked and they raised the walking speed and you get 2x mesetas and exp, is still rapetastic also there is a little neat thing about the remakes of 1 and 2If you have a complete game save of Remaster 1 you can resurrect THAT character that dies in 2 the fun fact is that most people dont care about THAT character because you barely interact with her

 

[Marissa Moira]

I can't imagine they'll show Zack being alive in part one and not follow it up right? I hope that's the case, though. I'm stupidly excited to see Cosmo Canyon remade.

They're turning the Fort Condor minigame into a full on SRPG side game and apparently the actual in game fight during Fort Condor in it's place is going to be a bunch of roided out enemies like Hellhouse and Elegor were.

From a Gameplay perspective it's not sounding bad, like they're changing some stuff but trying to balance it out so it makes sense. There's many gameplay aspects in the original that just would not fly today. Changing the genre mid game and making it a mandatory section like the original did for Fort Condor would not come across well today.

I think any shit with Zack might be handled the same way Intergrade is, they're going to be smaller side games.

Ys is the series everybody heard of but no one ever played. VIII was also published by nisa, lot of the target demograpic has a hard "no buy" stance for everything those turds fuck up, which sadly includes Ys VIII since it had plenty of issues. unless the nips get their head out of their asses and look for a proper western publisher they don't really deserve any money, it's the only way to get the message across.

You're not really left with a whole lot of options. XSeed lost both Ys and Legend of Heroes because they took eons to get out and were always riddled with trouble. NISA actually made the series be elevated from it's smaller status and they've become more well known because of them. If you don't go with NISA then that means you usually go with Atlus USA, people have the same complaints that Atlus does about NISA but Atlus commands a much higher premium for their services since they're a bigger company. Aksys is another option since they did Tokyo Xanadu but any type of major translation effort like that strains their resources pretty thin and Xanadu didn't do that well, so they're still hesitant. Ys8 despite it's initial botched translation wound up selling the best out of any of the Ys series.

Really there's so few companies out there for bringing stuff over to the US and translating it when it comes to games. I mean unless you're looking at the larger companies like Capcom or Square Enix who can afford to publish stuff, but they're not really interested in smaller titles. Most of the Falcom RPGs get limited exclusivity deals which help in their development funding. So you need one of the platforms to invest in them first.

 

[Antarctic Hellbeast]

Can't find a Destiny 2 thread after 2017 in the search, so this is the next best thing I guess.


Still on the fence about buying beyond light. Forsaken had more things to do when it was that price.
Its awfully expensive for 1 planet no one gives a shit about and 1 raid that has some pretty cool exclusive loot.

The gameplay is still as good as ever and the only saving grace of this dumpster fire.


Would it be worth it to get Beyond light or just get something else?

 

[ZMOT]

Would it be worth it to get Beyond light or just get something else?

>destiny 2
anything else just on principle.

 

[Antarctic Hellbeast]

>destiny 2
anything else just on principle.

thanks for advice. Wont be wasting money on it.

Trans at Bungo is another reason to not waste any more time on D2.
(The Farms documents troons and their typical behavior quite well and surprised Nu-Bungie doesn't have a thread.)

Introducing Trans at Bungie > News | Bungie.net

Bungie.net is the Internet home for Bungie, the developer of Destiny, Halo, Myth, Oni, and Marathon, and the only place with official Bungie info straight from the developers.

www.bungie.net

 

[ZMOT]

thanks for advice. Wont be wasting money on it.

Trans at Bungo is another reason to not waste any more time on D2.
(The Farms documents troons and their typical behavior quite well and surprised Nu-Bungie doesn't have a thread.)

Introducing Trans at Bungie > News | Bungie.net

Bungie.net is the Internet home for Bungie, the developer of Destiny, Halo, Myth, Oni, and Marathon, and the only place with official Bungie info straight from the developers.

www.bungie.net

I mean after their CM actively shit on the playerbase, with bunghole's track record and that big brain move to actually remove content people paid for, who would still give them money?

bigger question why'd you wanna play it and what else you could play instead, there are plenty of games where you shoot ppl and collect colorful pixel to make numbers go higher these days.

 

[knobslobbin]

Anyone have a mister FGPA for retro gaming? I've been thinking about getting one.

 

[Untrue and Dishonest]

>literally a janny simulator
The game is still good though. I had lots of fun playing it.

 

[Dark Edea]

Holy fuck!!

Inazuma Eleven: Great Road of Heroes fucking lives!! And it looks much better than the 2017, 2018 and 2019 builds. Much better.

This is great news. Inazuma Eleven games are insanely fun. They are basically soccer, Dragon Ball and Pokemon wrapped up into one. Hopefully Level 5 will bring it to the West like they said they would.

 

[Pissmaster]

Xcom 2 is a technical marvel to me in that it runs equally as shit no matter what the platform. This article says the loading times are even the same as the PS4 when running it on a PlayStation 5, despite how one of the PS5's biggest selling points is its crazy-fast SSD that otherwise minimizes them. And I can personally attest to the loading times being about the same between the PS4 and Switch versions.

I don't get it, it's like the game was purposefully designed to be janky.