Voice Actors - Complain about American/Canadian ones, Gush about Japanese ones, I guess

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Not a huge anime head, but I love me some Persona games. As said in a Two Best Friends Play video "The Persona cast, AKA the next big voice actors for the years to come." Persona 3 had Liam O'Brien, Tara Platt, and Vic Mignogna who ig is a dickhead now (I didn't read the scoop.) Persona 4 featured Troy Baker, Johnny Young Bosch, and Laura Bailey, 3 titans. 5 has featured Erica Lindbeck (Futaba), whose voice is everywhere now, and Cherami Leigh (Makoto) who voiced Fem-V in Cyberpunk 2077. Anyways, I absolutely love Persona's voice acting. It is completely genuine with 0 cringe like a lot of anime dubs. Atlus has mastered voice direction, and actually keep strict guidelines for the English VA's, which makes the voicework premium to the ears.

Also love FromSoft's voicework. According to interviews they do a ton of takes, and Miyazaki sits in on the interviews/recordings and has hyper-specific directions. Using theater actors is a wise choice. FromSoft understands less is more.

I think the problem with many American VA's is they go too far. It's an extremely cliquey industry. The established talent are asked to do their iconic voice with little change, typecast and forever doing normalvoice. The newbies go too extreme, and are religated to anime game dubs. And don't even get me started on indie game VA's, thinking of Neon White makes me shudder.
 
Zoc Verde said:
Neon White
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Am I better off not knowing what that is?
Zoc Verde said:
The established talent are asked to do their iconic voice with little change, typecast and forever doing normalvoice.
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It's a shame because a lot of the established VAs AFAIK are pretty diverse when they are allowed to explore that.

My immediate example is Scott McNeil. You got him voicing Piccolo and then you got him doing a wide array of spot-on impressions based on that stop-motion Rudolf Christmas special.

Another would be Ray Chase, who did a good job voicing emo pretty boy with brother issues Eve from Nier Automata, to then play a weathered old police officer in Cookie Run.

But this new generation of voice acting...hmmmmmm yeah I don't know. It's not helped that the market kinda gets diluted by internet people who cannot voice act.

*Ahem Arin fucking Hanson in everything he's in.
 
macrodegenerate said:
Sorry to break this to you, but at this point we can't trust anything Rekieta has said, or been associated with. Vic might actually be the bad guy here, and Rekeita might have ignored details or stretched things to make Vic look more favorable and to preserve the grift.
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I remember before Rekieta stepped in, it was the Farms who was looking into the situation, I remember Monica and her perma-fiance making lots of inflammatory statements and getting pissy when pressed for evidence and I remember how badly the deposition videos made them look. Rekieta's a deadbeat druggie who hooked Vic up with a failure of a lawyer, but I still haven't seen a shred of credible proof that he did the things Monica, Marzgurl or whoever has accused him of.
 
DenseDeerFather said:
But this new generation of voice acting...hmmmmmm yeah I don't know. It's not helped that the market kinda gets diluted by internet people who cannot voice act.
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This line just reminded me of the existence of Persona 3: Reload, which for those who do not know is a remake of the classic Persona 3. They used a brand new cast of voice actors, and it may be the Persona series' first miss when it comes to voice acting and voice direction. Hopefully it's just because it was a remake, and the B team was working on it. Fingers crossed Persona 6 will make it out okay and not feature Wuk Lamat's VA from FFXIV or various fiverr porn VA's. Seems like that's all we got nowadays.
 
Rachael Lillis, the voice of Misty and Jessie from Pokemon, has passed away.

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We lost ourselves a real one.

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Gravityqueen4life said:
Rachael Lillis, the voice of Misty and Jessie from Pokemon, has passed away.

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Fuck, dude... Awful way to start the week. Cancer is evil incarnate.
It was amazing seeing all of Rachael's friends come together and run charity events for her.

Rest in Peace, Rachael Lillis. You will be missed dearly.
Might watch some OS Pokémon today in honor of her. :(
 
So, /a/'s taking this about as well as you'd expect people mourning for a dub VA.
In other words, they're yelling and screaming about how dubs aren't anime, dubwatchers should be hanged for race treason, and mourners should all fuck off the board for Not Anime.

This is MISTY we're getting this retaliation over. How fucking gatekeepy can you get?
 
Cactuar King said:
I remember before Rekieta stepped in, it was the Farms who was looking into the situation, I remember Monica and her perma-fiance making lots of inflammatory statements and getting pissy when pressed for evidence and I remember how badly the deposition videos made them look. Rekieta's a deadbeat druggie who hooked Vic up with a failure of a lawyer, but I still haven't seen a shred of credible proof that he did the things Monica, Marzgurl or whoever has accused him of.
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Late and gay but didn’t Monica say that if Vic lost appeals, she and Impotent Soye squawk about releasing evidence? Because they still haven’t shown anything that’s promptly outed Vic for being a sexpest.

You’d think that after winning they’d own the naysayers who asked for proof.
 
Gotta love these self righteous dipshits wanting to control everything despite being harmless, and in their own corner. Moments like these make it harder to root for them when they are coming for anything AI related.

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(https://archive.ph/DHP9X)
 
Trollblade69 said:
So, /a/'s taking this about as well as you'd expect people mourning for a dub VA.
In other words, they're yelling and screaming about how dubs aren't anime, dubwatchers should be hanged for race treason, and mourners should all fuck off the board for Not Anime.

This is MISTY we're getting this retaliation over. How fucking gatekeepy can you get?
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At some point, you know when to walk away from retards and internet slap fight. It's 4chan, Idk what can you expect from it. Also, I'm not saying other places are much more better or anything.

A Watchful Ghost said:
Gotta love these self righteous dipshits wanting to control everything despite being harmless, and in their own corner. Moments like these make it harder to root for them when they are coming for anything AI related.
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I don't like AI much, but I don't think VAs should be so upset about random "fanworks" on internet either. Because those people aren't gonna pay them to do fanworks nor the fictional characters are VAs themselves either (ego wise).
The whole thing about VAs strike against video games companies and studios, unironically all of them are AAA Western companies. They are really letting their ego high, and fighting against greedy fcks at the top, good luck.

In JP, VAs are at least get paid to do radio show and scripted interviews to advertise the shows and characters they are doing. There is always this distinct separation between VA themselves and characters. Western side, unfortunately not so much. Basically convention is all they have and unfortunately I don't even see do that kind of VA interviews much either. I'm not sure if that is why new generation from Western always act "me, me, me" beside self-validation tranny speak from previous page.
Also, maybe because of NDA or spoiler discussion to anime viewer only.

I mean, in Rachel Lilis herself, they used to have "What do you think about this character or this show?" and "Which roles do you like?".
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I mean old days behind the screen stuff like Shrek kinda having everyone talking about characters and story.
 
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Trollblade69 said:
So, /a/'s taking this about as well as you'd expect people mourning for a dub VA.
In other words, they're yelling and screaming about how dubs aren't anime, dubwatchers should be hanged for race treason, and mourners should all fuck off the board for Not Anime.

This is MISTY we're getting this retaliation over. How fucking gatekeepy can you get?
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What fuck are they on about? This is pokemon we talking about! it aired in the US and Europe in the late 90s. Internet barely existed back then. you think you could just torrent or watch it for free online undubbed? Retards!

People who used to watched pokemon on tv every Saturday are late 20s to mid 30s adults now who still remember a world before the Internet.
 
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Zoc Verde said:
Using theater actors is a wise choice. FromSoft understands less is more.
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Any game that does this gets absolutely kino voicework with a fraction of the bullshit that comes from using the usual VA guild faggots. Theater actors know how to use their voices just as much as their bodies and you always get someone who sounds way more natural than Guy doing Anime Voice #97.

Compare Elden Ring's VA to Sekiro's English dub, which I believe was handled by another team and not Fromsoft. Noticeable drop in quality.
 
Gravityqueen4life said:
Rachael Lillis, the voice of Misty and Jessie from Pokemon, has passed away.

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We lost ourselves a real one.

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Trollblade69 said:
So, /a/'s taking this about as well as you'd expect people mourning for a dub VA.
In other words, they're yelling and screaming about how dubs aren't anime, dubwatchers should be hanged for race treason, and mourners should all fuck off the board for Not Anime.

This is MISTY we're getting this retaliation over. How fucking gatekeepy can you get?
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Gravityqueen4life said:
What fuck are they on about? This is pokemon we talking about! it aired in the US and Europe in the late 90. internet barely existed back then. you think you could just torrent or watch it for free online undubbed? Retards!

People who used to watched pokemon on tv every Saturday are late 20s to mid 30s adults now who still remember a world before the internet.
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It’s times like these where instead of getting mad at /a/, I suggest we follow the wise words of what Misty and Jesse practiced:

 
Deus Exica said:
Any game that does this gets absolutely kino voicework with a fraction of the bullshit that comes from using the usual VA guild faggots. Theater actors know how to use their voices just as much as their bodies and you always get someone who sounds way more natural than Guy doing Anime Voice #97.

Compare Elden Ring's VA to Sekiro's English dub, which I believe was handled by another team and not Fromsoft. Noticeable drop in quality.
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I think people under estimate the effect Voice Directors have as well for example Robert Buchholz was iconic in the 2000s and defined Square's approach to voice acting in that era. The same goes for Adam Chapman-Hailey who defined the Souls games including Bloodborne/ Elden Ring. For Sekiro, they brought in Darragh O'Farrell the brain trust who managed to "Direct" a bunch of tell tale games and thrillvile.
 
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