General Vtubers You Just Don't Get The Appeal Of - "Your Oshi is Mid"

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To play devil's advocate - it's about ideals, not necessarily standards. What do western ideals look like today?
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Plasticky Kpop idols are obviously perverse and hedonistic - but at least it's still directed at some recognizable concept of youth and beauty. Everybody knows the ideal is false, but you can still aim for something in that direction through your own efforts (e.g. women dressing more feminine, slimming down, styling their hair nicely) and achieve a better standard for yourself. The ideal promoted in the west is also perverse and hedonistic, but in the polar opposite direction. It is the denial of any meaning to betterment and effort and of any standard of beauty at all, the worship of savage subhuman consumption. We should have our own, better ideals than the perverse hedonism of the chinks - but where are they being promoted in mainstream culture?
It's a fallacy to conflate top-down state propaganda with emergent culture. Both of these things -- WEF zog enforced nigger worship in the west and pro-conformity materialist idolshit in the east -- are state-sanctioned propaganda, and while they have their rube adherents, they do not reflect the respective "cultures" any more than anime and Hollywood do. They don't tell you what a culture thinks, they tell you what people in positions of influence want a culture to think. A sane person would reject both.

Anyway, it's a false dichotomy to present your only choices of feminine ideal as pozzed HAES genderblob bullshit on one hand and mass manufactured interchangeable plastic gook robots on the other. Both are stupid and I don't want to be subjected to either one, I would be just as annoyed if fat woke women started encroaching on my dumb little internet streams, that's why I don't watch nijisanji.
 
It's a fallacy to conflate top-down state propaganda with emergent culture. Both of these things -- WEF zog enforced nigger worship in the west and pro-conformity materialist idolshit in the east -- are state-sanctioned propaganda, and while they have their rube adherents, they do not reflect the respective "cultures" any more than anime and Hollywood do. They don't tell you what a culture thinks, they tell you what people in positions of influence want a culture to think. A sane person would reject both.

Anyway, it's a false dichotomy to present your only choices of feminine ideal as pozzed HAES genderblob bullshit on one hand and mass manufactured interchangeable plastic gook robots on the other. Both are stupid and I don't want to be subjected to either one, I would be just as annoyed if fat woke women started encroaching on my dumb little internet streams, that's why I don't watch nijisanji.
My point was that one of those things was less evil than the other. They’re both warped and in need of replacing with some better standard. I believe you are more or less correct as to the tainted origins of both imposed standards.
 
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All V-tubers just make me uncomfortable to watch because we arent seeing something "real", is it?

At least with a youtuber's "character icon", there is still something to get attached since most of the times we see these characters on their edited youtube videos but nearly all of V-tubers are CG anime girls that appeal to some sort of fetish.

Its rather...weird and my mind just rejects it. It gets worse when I see guys unironically talking how they are the closest thing they get to female affection...its really depressing.
 
I never gave a single fuck about Nijisanji as a whole and idk if I ever will
I occasionally watch Petra.
All V-tubers just make me uncomfortable to watch because we arent seeing something "real", is it?

At least with a youtuber's "character icon", there is still something to get attached since most of the times we see these characters on their edited youtube videos but nearly all of V-tubers are CG anime girls that appeal to some sort of fetish.

Its rather...weird and my mind just rejects it. It gets worse when I see guys unironically talking how they are the closest thing they get to female affection...its really depressing.
I just treat them like I do rasslin' characters.
 
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