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Which infuriates me, as I've always found the SoS and Soriatas way more interesting than the Astartes and the yellow boys. But I'm just a white het male, what do I know? Even being a liberal don't let me into THAT club...

I just think its retarded to have Space Monks and Space Nuns both with their own vibe and lore and then turn around and add ladies to the Extra Special Space Monks

My assumption is that they looked at their sales numbers and realized they had no way of making SoS popular enough to support so just slapped some titties on Custodes as part of phasing SoS out.
 
It's purely to get people to not cry about these boyz being monopose.
Only read the "Why not both" and thought for a split second they were going back to more modular Boyz a la the 3rd Ed. Boyz box again, then enlarged the thumbnail and saw they just tacked a gun on his back and it's more modern day monopose bullshit.
 
Only read the "Why not both" and thought for a split second they were going back to more modular Boyz a la the 3rd Ed. Boyz box again, then enlarged the thumbnail and saw they just tacked a gun on his back and it's more modern day monopose bullshit.
All edition boxes are monopose models. They will split the new models into multipose down the line. Combining shoota and slugga models into one unit means no ones old models become completely irrelevant.
 
I just think its retarded to have Space Monks and Space Nuns both with their own vibe and lore and then turn around and add ladies to the Extra Special Space Monks

My assumption is that they looked at their sales numbers and realized they had no way of making SoS popular enough to support so just slapped some titties on Custodes as part of phasing SoS out.
Why the fuck does Games Workshop not sell mixed army sets? It would make sense to prop up a liked, but financially unviable faction by attaching them to other products.
 
All edition boxes are monopose models. They will split the new models into multipose down the line. Combining shoota and slugga models into one unit means no ones old models become completely irrelevant.
Alright, makes sense. I am too long out of the tabletop side of the hobby to know how present day GW handles things.
 
My assumption is that they looked at their sales numbers and realized they had no way of making SoS popular enough to support so just slapped some titties on Custodes as part of phasing SoS out.
That's possible, but it's also retarded. Not what you proposed, just the possibility of GW doing that. Previously with the HH stuff there were a bunch of SoS units that never got models, and some that only had FW upgrade sprues.

Dual wielding SMGs? Just a FW sprue with arms
Chicks in power armor on jetbikes? Never got models
Squads of women with various cyber animals like huge dogs and fucking alligators to hunt down psykers? Never got models.
Squad of women with long range rifles, never got models

And this is all shit that could have shored up weaknesses within the custodes army in 40k, if they didn't give the custodes themselves jetbikes. Basically all of the infantry fast attack/cav/shooting stuff that the army is or at least was missing all without doubling up on Sisters of Battle(SoS had a flamer unit, that probably would have been too similar). Instead of interesting shit, it was 1 kit with bolters, 2h swords on a t3 body, and flamers(basically just acting like SoB), and 1 character.

But GW being GW continued to pump out space marine lieutenant #27, and a new primaris vanguard vet that's damn near identical to the previous vanguard vets. Gee, I wonder why the SoS products aren't selling... maybe because they don't exist?
 
Why the fuck does Games Workshop not sell mixed army sets? It would make sense to prop up a liked, but financially unviable faction by attaching them to other products.
They do occasionally, I guess the term for them is Battlebox but that also includes mono army boxes. 8th and 9th had a few including Forgebane (AM and Knights vs Necrons) and Wrath of the SoulForge King. 10th has had a shorter product cycle, so most of the overstock has just went to discount boxes.
 
And this is all shit that could have shored up weaknesses within the custodes army in 40k,

The fluff novels for them even basically introduces them as seperate organisations designed to work together, so it would have made too much sense to let you mix units.

My only assumption must be GW bailed on the idea entirely and left it to rot because Space Marines just move that much more product than everything else.

Throw SoS/Custodes in the forgotten corner with the majority of factions.
 
They do occasionally, I guess the term for them is Battlebox but that also includes mono army boxes. 8th and 9th had a few including Forgebane (AM and Knights vs Necrons) and Wrath of the SoulForge King. 10th has had a shorter product cycle, so most of the overstock has just went to discount boxes.
Most of those combo boxes also didn't sell for crap unless it was due to having some new model locked to them for the first year of release. 10th hasn't had that problem. They're also kind of a shit deal unless you know someone willing to pay for the other half of the box that you weren't interested in. That Hexfire box with grey knights vs thousand sons comes to mind, took ages for that castellan crowe(I think that was his name at least) model to get released solo, and it's one of the combo boxes I've seen still collecting dust on store shelves in the area.

Eldritch Omens was another one with Eldar and CSM, Piety and Pain was Sisters of Battle and dark eldar, Shadow Throne was Custodes and GSC, and then that Wrath of the soulforge king was CSM again and Dark Angels.

I initially assumed @Catgirl Tyranid was referring to soup, but that's always been a dumpster fire for balance and GW for 10th at least has barely allowed it(which is an appropriate thing to do). But the combo boxes themselves don't prop up anything as they're basically sold at a "loss"(compared to the margin GW normally likes to make, not an actual loss since this shit costs nothing to produce once the molds are done and being used) since that would require the buyer to be interested enough to like the random handful of models for an army they don't have, and then be willing to buy more of that army. Since it's usually completely opposed factions in those types of boxes, even if soup were allowed like say... with the imperial keyword, you still couldn't soup the contents together anyway.
 
Combo boxes only work in 3 circumstances.

1. You collect both armies
2. You and a mate collect both armies, therefore split it (buy 2 for lulz)
3. You collect one army and want the other for basing bits. This one is a bit silly because id just buy a box of their cheapest models and use that
 
Why the fuck does Games Workshop not sell mixed army sets? It would make sense to prop up a liked, but financially unviable faction by attaching them to other products.
What combinations could they do? Its not like you could play Tyrant's legion and sell them as a box, outside of starter sets which are more or less either meant for uberconsoomers or people splitting the armies.
 
Combo boxes only work in 3 circumstances.

1. You collect both armies
2. You and a mate collect both armies, therefore split it (buy 2 for lulz)
3. You collect one army and want the other for basing bits. This one is a bit silly because id just buy a box of their cheapest models and use that
They're also a good box if... You're new to the game and want to collect a large number of models for a decent deal. Some of my friends only started because of a nice start of edition box
 
They're also a good box if... You're new to the game and want to collect a large number of models for a decent deal. Some of my friends only started because of a nice start of edition box
Sure but the start of edition boxes aren't the same as the shitty combo boxes from 9th and previous. Way more models, the rulebook, etc. so someone looking to start who is interested in both of those armies, they're usually a great deal. Hexfire was 29 minis, GK and TS, and if you already had either army you probably didn't need anything in the box besides the 2 new characters, and it was $170. Meanwhile the Indomitus starter box was $200, 24 space marines and 37 necrons, all new sculpts. The disparity between an edition starter box and those combo boxes was massive not to mention both forces being around 1000 points instead of just roughly 500.

3. You collect one army and want the other for basing bits. This one is a bit silly because id just buy a box of their cheapest models and use that
A box of space marines, termagants, etc. would get you basing bits for dozens of minis. Leg here, helmet there, and so on. And that's assuming you put something on every base(which would be kind of overkill).
 
guess its my turn to doxx my models

one space dad, poorly painted
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I never played a tabletop game and the sperg inside me has been infatuated with 40k ever since watching those Astartes videos.

Someone suggested I can use this 'game' called Tabletop Simulator to break into 40k n' learn the basics before committing.

Is this the way, or are there other suggestions to get started? I don't know any turbonerds irl who are into this sorta shit so I'm flyin solo.
 
Is this the way, or are there other suggestions to get started? I don't know any turbonerds irl who are into this sorta shit so I'm flyin solo.
Tough spot. Yea, Tabletop Simulator might be your best bet in this, unless the painting aspect is what you're more interested in.

Any game stores in your area? If there is and they run demos, those are always worth a bit of your time to see if it grabs you.
 
I never played a tabletop game and the sperg inside me has been infatuated with 40k ever since watching those Astartes videos.

Someone suggested I can use this 'game' called Tabletop Simulator to break into 40k n' learn the basics before committing.

Is this the way, or are there other suggestions to get started? I don't know any turbonerds irl who are into this sorta shit so I'm flyin solo.
It can be good to learn, but you're learning how to use a finicky Sim on top of using a game. That being said its hard to beat a 5 dollar investment to try out the game side.
 
It can be good to learn, but you're learning how to use a finicky Sim on top of using a game. That being said its hard to beat a 5 dollar investment to try out the game side.

You make a very good point and I'm gonna keep that in mind.
 
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