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Snekposter said:
The saddest thing about all of that? Women in the military who have actually worn armor were all "Yeah, you kinda need to make room for those in there," when the feminists started bitching about a very slight, reasonable, practical curve to it.
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Yep. The feminists got ratio'd hard by women in the armed services, among the police force, women armorers and costume designers, just for whining about boob armor. That, and the Mando boob-armor was very practical in its simplicity with the armor shape. It wasn't fucking chainmail bikinis or some crap like that.

LillWeeb said:
I agree but I think its not just laziness I think they (GW) doesn't really want to have an argument at all, and they no its a lose lose no matter they do, A large group of long time whales will get mad. I think GW will end the offer female marine heads in the model kits as a build option, but won't change the lore any way. Basically " the option is there for those who want it but doesn't change anything."
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Oh, please. The whales don't give a flying shit about the lore. If they did, the Primaris Marines and the Stormcast Eternals wouldn't have sold. Female marines probably won't sell as well, but it would hardly tank GW's numbers. People who think that GW will fall due to such lore changes haven't studied how GW keeps changing the lore. From 1998, to 2018, to now, there have always been lore changes, and the whales have always come back for seconds.

LillWeeb said:
But speaking of the puritanical left I'm not a 40k player I Play AOS mainly and some old world, but i'm shocked the "i hate hot women" feminist didn't went after the Daughters of Khaine army model designs/art yet assuming if they ever did.
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Give it some time. They will discover it and hate it eventually.

Michael Wade said:
That is so hilarious too because within the contest of the story that Inquisitor

is an arrogant moron who trusts a demonhosts word that the dark angels are corrupted
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Well, she was half-right. One of them was corrupted, the others were trying to bury that news and keep it from tarnishing their good name. She should've helped them bury the miscreant instead of judging them all as guilty.

Oh, and BTW, GW has resurrected said inquisitor and now she has the Emperor's favor, according to a Sister of Silence.


With her armor, she even looks like a female Space Marine. GW seems to be teasing that concept with her.

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And here are more pictures of her in the terminator armor.

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Really, they could just take some experienced Sisters of Battle and female IG commissars/Inquisitors and stick them in that, problem solved. Hell, you can even have it so that there's a million or more of them running around since they don't need a lifetime of training or geneseeds to wear and fight with the armor.
 
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Well in other news, spotted in the background for one of the new mission card previews:

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Henchmen, Draxus, some Deathwatch marines, and a Corvus Blackstar. Could be nothing.. but its probably a hint and the already partially leaked Codex: Agents of the Imperium. A signal that Deathwatch and possibly Grey Knights are being merged into them too?
 
LORD IMPERATOR said:
-Whale
-Self Integrity

Pick one. No person with integrity would spend so much on a hobby that changes left and right for the sake of stringing more money from the customer. Yes, most whales are people with battered wife syndrome.

Gatcha game whales aren't as old or as long-suffering as 40K whales; they don't spend thousands of dollars on plastic miniature men. At most, they may have spent a couple hundred dollars, but eventually they'll hit their limit. GW whales have long since passed their limit. At best, if they do kick their habit, they'll evolve into scalpers who will then buy the plastic crack and sell it for a markup to the next generation of whales. And that's IF they kick the habit, which they do not show any signs of. Age of Sigmar made a tidy profit, and so did the Primaris.
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Back when Gachas were big, an Aussie spent 100,000 Aussie bux on trying to get a 6* in a gacha called Blood Brothers 2. He didn't get the 6* that was the best unit at the time. Valkyrie Connect requires you to spend over $2000 a week just to even do any pve (3 times as much if you want to do pvp. Oh yea, none of the PvE rewards are worth it unless it's a story event because no one uses raid bosses anymore). Raid Shadow Legends requires you to blow at least $5000 a week if you even want to beat the basic pve challenges they "toned down." If you want to be the ultimate faggot player in gacha games, you better open that wallet. Whales are still spending on Raid Shadow Legends even when Plarium has endlessly fucked over the players with lies and backpeddeling like lying about making Arbiter easier to get (that made me quit Raid because I was a f2p that was getting new champions in events). I've seen whales drop a gacha when a company fucks them over. Illusion Connect kept pissing on the international players, even mocking them through the update announcements, so the whales responded back by dropping the game.

As for Ebay, I've seen a lot of Shitmar 3.0 listings at absurd prices, and guess what? No one is really buying Shitmar out of stupid scalpers who thought it was going to take off (Shitmar only "took off" because Games Wokeshop forced people to like it while they finally tried to fix it with 2.0....before they went back to fucking up with 3.0).

LORD IMPERATOR said:
progressive investors
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Investors want to see growth regardless of their politics. They're not going to be happy if they lost billions, and Daddy's Blackrock money is running out after they blew it on weed, bad crypto investments, and soy lattes.
 
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Level99Manchild said:
Not only you had to buy a lot of models just to play a 1k+ point game, but Fantasy was also a bloated mess that was never balanced. If you didn't play Fantasy like 40k you will never win a traditional army game because every faggot and their grandma who played Fantasy played some shooty army like Empire or Elves/Dwarves (Skaven was also infamous of Skryre Army of Doom before 5th+ nerfed that list). Fantasy has wonderful lore, but I don't miss the overall game because it had problems Shitmar tried to fix (and failed to do so). Maybe it was my area, but a lot of Boomers played Fantasy, and loved to humiliate and exploit opponents in fron of anyone (I lost to one prick, but beat another guy out of luck). Tabletop fags can be pricks (I've also had my moments to be fair).
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I liked Warhammer fantasy but part of the reason I started with 40K is because fantasy was more expensive to get into and 40k was friendlier. I still got a lot of the Warhammer fantasy books and liked the setting but on a limited budget I had to choose between the game all the people my age played + older players v one with a smaller playerbase and with some more obnoxious people.

Some of the neckbeards at the time that only played fantasy, and hated all other games including 40K, were extremely insufferable. Especially if they were the win at all costs types. So the kind of guy who just doesn’t want to win in the game all the time but the type who chooses an army because they will win in the lore. Part of my aversion to some chaos warriors, skaven, and in 40K tyranids and Chaos, are the type of hobbyists who don’t just want to win all the time on the tabletop but they want to win in the lore. There’s one guy I knew who mostly played chaos daemons and skaven that was less mature than the majority of 12 year olds playing 40K, named Dan. I still hate that guy and I never played a game with him. Just was in his proximity. He was a complete asshole. (He would later play Grey Knights in 5th edition, but in 40K he mostly meta chased and would spend most of the time whining about people preferring 40K over fantasy).
HTTP Error 404 said:
So Trench Crusade's discord is actually the discord for 28 Magazine, a little indy zine covering Tabletop stuff. And they're woke as fuck. So to quote someone on twitter, "the wokies took control of the community and didn't have to move a finger."
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I find it humorous because usually the smaller niche games are more to the left. And if they were familiar with the gaming scene they’d know this lol.
 
IAmNotAlpharius said:
Part of my aversion to some chaos warriors, skaven, and in 40K tyranids and Chaos, are the type of hobbyists who don’t just want to win all the time on the tabletop but they want to win in the lore.
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The funny thing is Skaven were never meant to be a serious army. Yes, they had one of the most bullshit lists back in the day with Skryre Army of Doom, but their gimmick was their technology backfired or they would bicker with each other like Orcs and Goblins.
 
Level99Manchild said:
Back when Gachas were big, an Aussie spent 100,000 Aussie bux on trying to get a 6* in a gacha called Blood Brothers 2. He didn't get the 6* that was the best unit at the time. Valkyrie Connect requires you to spend over $2000 a week just to even do any pve (3 times as much if you want to do pvp. Oh yea, none of the PvE rewards are worth it unless it's a story event because no one uses raid bosses anymore). Raid Shadow Legends requires you to blow at least $5000 a week if you even want to beat the basic pve challenges they "toned down." If you want to be the ultimate faggot player in gacha games, you better open that wallet. Whales are still spending on Raid Shadow Legends even when Plarium has endlessly fucked over the players with lies and backpeddeling like lying about making Arbiter easier to get (that made me quit Raid because I was a f2p that was getting new champions in events). I've seen whales drop a gacha when a company fucks them over. Illusion Connect kept pissing on the international players, even mocking them through the update announcements, so the whales responded back by dropping the game.
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Gacha games haven't been here as long as Warhammer 40K. And the more a whale spends, the more addicted he is, because of the sunk cost fallacy. He has to keep spending, otherwise all the crap he's spent would've been for nothing. However, there are people who grow out of this habit, and they evolve into scalpers, using their knowledge of the hobby and their firsthand experience with the addiction to know when to buy and when to jack up the prices once the merch sells out.

40K whales have been in the biz longer than gacha game whales, and they spend way more money over time. They also show no sign of quitting despite all the price hikes and lore-raping. Gacha game whales eventually wake up and stop, whereas 40K whales either never wake up, or evolve into scalpers and fuck over other whales.

Level99Manchild said:
Investors want to see growth in their money regardless of their politics. They're not going to be happy if they lost billions, and Daddy's Blackrock money is running out after they blew it on weed, bad crypto investments, and soy lattes.
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That's true for Star Wars, Marvel, DC, Halo, and many other franchises that the Left pissed on.

It's not true for 40K, especially since the whales keep spending to the point where the merch in the official 40K website is sold out. SW fans are happy to let the franchise die if it doesn't please them. 40K fans consoom no matter what GW does to the lore or how many times they raise prices. They're crack addicts.

Michael Wade said:
They have every fucking right to be suspicious of that chick. Emperor's favor my ass.

the last shot of the comic has he body being beheld in the warp by tzeentch
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I know. I thought she'd come back as a warp daemon, but no, she comes back to the Inquisition 100 years later, and somehow gains the Emperor's favor. They're obviously going the girl power route.

If it were me, I'd write a story where the Silent Sister tells the Inquisitor that the Emperor is FUCKING PISSED at her for how she treated the Dark Angels, and he sends her on a suicide mission to ''regain'' her honor, which involves fighting Magnus the Red as Tzeentch keeps tempting her with forbidden power. All the while, Lion'El Johnson returns and the Dark Angels get more powerful as a result, much to her consternation, which makes Tzeentch's temptations all the more potent.
 
HistrionicBitch said:
Well in other news, spotted in the background for one of the new mission card previews:

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Henchmen, Draxus, some Deathwatch marines, and a Corvus Blackstar. Could be nothing.. but its probably a hint and the already partially leaked Codex: Agents of the Imperium. A signal that Deathwatch and possibly Grey Knights are being merged into them too?
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It kinda makes sense to combine GK, DeathWatch, and imo also Sisters of Battle into a single Inquisition faction and making them all subfactions. Also let them take Kasrkins as basic troops too.
 
HTTP Error 404 said:
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So Trench Crusade's discord is actually the discord for 28 Magazine, a little indy zine covering Tabletop stuff. And they're woke as fuck. So to quote someone on twitter, "the wokies took control of the community and didn't have to move a finger."

28 Mag is... well, your bog standard leftycuck shit. The latest issue contains an essay on the importance of Female Space Marines for diversity equity inclusion and representation, as well as the results of a kitbash and art contest. As far as anyone can tell (they're obviously not talking to anyone) the 28Mag admins are mass banning anyone they can tell came from "Chudhammer" or even mentioned disagreements or opposition to shit like this:

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Anyway, long story short, several people in the community found they were banned out of the blue, some even AFK at the time, and when people asked why people were being banned, they were banned or told the users were insulting other users. At the end they posted a literal "ya'll can't behave" and locked the server and started mass banning people about an hour ago.

Hopefully Trench Crusade can recover from this, but as of right now the community came pre-infested. We'll have to see how things go.
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So in other words Trench Crusade should get infested by the culture war types.
 
LORD IMPERATOR said:
Like I said before, tabletop roleplaying and wargaming spaces have been infested up to the neck by lefties since a good number of them were DnD gamers who were literally demonized by the religious right 40 years ago, and a good number of them never forgave that.

So of course, they'd support every leftie ideal that comes along, from LGBTQ plus, to third-wave feminism. And ''tradcaths'' are not welcome among their ranks. At best, they'll tolerate such people if they shut up and play the game, at worst, they'll see them as invaders and do their best to toss them out
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I think the most hilarious is I saw some rightoids gettin pissy over that Trench game, because of the art and how it "shits on muh relegion guyz", so you have people trying to be all "Akthually" types on the left and act smug and then on the right have mofos just as easily offendable as lefties, while in between theres people who find the setting interesting.
 
The tired cat said:
I think the most hilarious is I saw some rightoids gettin pissy over that Trench game, because of the art and how it "shits on muh relegion guyz", so you have people trying to be all "Akthually" types on the left and act smug and then on the right have mofos just as easily offendable as lefties, while in between theres people who find the setting interesting.
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Honestly I like that the game is about the believers trying to basically stop the godless heathens from raping, pillaging, and burning their lands.
 
The tired cat said:
I think the most hilarious is I saw some rightoids gettin pissy over that Trench game, because of the art and how it "shits on muh relegion guyz", so you have people trying to be all "Akthually" types on the left and act smug and then on the right have mofos just as easily offendable as lefties, while in between theres people who find the setting interesting.
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A lot of what the rightoids love now was made to shit on their religion and viewpoints. Watchmen was a slap against right-wingers who like vigilate superheroes. 40K was a slap against Thatcherites as well as religious/military conservatives. And yet the very same people they were made to lampoon, they attracted. This isn't like Star Wars where Lucas openly mooched off Imperial fans and made the Jedi out to be flawed to give both sides an even score and an even spot on the playing field, 40K and Watchmen were made with the intent to condemn, yet the very same people they were meant to condemn became their biggest fans. Few Watchmen fans aren't Rorschach fans, and most 40K fans love the Space Marines and the Imperium and unironically see them as the antihero good guys who are the beacons of light, the lesser evil compared to everything else.
 
LORD IMPERATOR said:
Again, like I said before, some feminists don't like those. Especially with the boob-armor and the high-heels. Hence why they keep pushing for female Space Marines, since those, to their knowledge, won't have boob-armor.
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You need to lay off the culture war YouTube videos dude and go outside. You’re a very boring broken record and all your posts are like a pound shop version of Sargon.
 
FedPostalService said:
You need to lay off the culture war YouTube videos dude and go outside. You’re a very boring broken record and all your posts are like a pound shop version of Sargon.
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Warhammer has always been political. It was basically made during a previous culture war between the Reagan/Thatcher right and the leftoids who hated them. It was the product of a culture war; it just wound up being loved by the very same people it was meant to lampoon.

Also, unlike Sargon, I've got no illusions about Warhammer. It has always been owned by the Left, and will continue to do so unless some right-winger buys out GW and moves them to Texas or Florida. Sargon's dumb enough to think it was a safe space for edgy right-wingers, when it never was.
 
I just find it impressive how quickly the Trench Crusade guys nuked any interest or good will they had, its kinda impressive. Cause I doubt normies or casual Wargaming fans will even hear of that game in passing, an for all the taunting the turbo spergy lefty types wont even throw a glance at thid game.
 
HTTP Error 404 said:
Hopefully Trench Crusade can recover from this, but as of right now the community came pre-infested. We'll have to see how things go.
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You can't recover something that started out dead. That the mere fact that evil chuds showed interest in their game means that they need to "queer code it" to kingdom come and they very much will. Also, fuck supporting any company that shows such immediate contempt to it's potential player base.

If you want a "right wing game", it has to be made that way from the ground up and be unapologetic about it. The whole "any politically neutral thing will become left wing" rings true very much. Though then you have the problem of the game feeling like propaganda 24/7 to keep it's political focus since I doubt most people would be able to keep the slant without politisperging all the time.

I can work with "game without outer contempt towards me". Mantic I assume has the same standard game plan as every other company, but they don't call me out as scum at least. They just make games and models and stick to that.
 
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