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TheSilentKing411 said:
I know it's probably already been discussed some ways back ITT by now, but I for one am pretty hyped for LoV finally making their first video game appearance
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Just do the Deep Rock Galactic crossover already you cowards! Of all the crossovers we could've got, we got Magic the Gathering and fucking Rust. Who the hell still plays Rust?!
 
Judge Holden said:
Dang, getting called a Fag by Fulgrim? Nigga I would just fucking end it right there.
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I mean, pretty much, it was a big, “Listen retard, you’ve fucked around with this gender equality fag-shit long enough. Your purpose is to fuel the Long War with monsters and manpower, so shut your cockhole and get on it.”

Then later, Fulgrim sent Lucius to kill a Fulgrim clone and tell him to cut the shit

He even had to kiss and make up with Abaddon.
 
Judge Dredd said:
I don't play historicals. So I can't recommend any specific kit. That said, there are a bunch of options because "knight" isn't a copyrightable thing.

Off the top of my head. Oathmark, Deus Vult (aka FireForge), Victrix, Barons War, and maybe Frostgrave.

There is a YouTuber Paul Stanley (not the singer) that has a bunch of videos on the topic if you want details. This is the first one of his to come up when I search.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tFHfvvUbljYThe basic gist is this. You go for GW for your set piece units. And then for mass infantry you go third party, perhaps with some official bits to sell the illusion.

Frostgrave is the odd man out since most of their kits are winter or jungle themed.

Oathmark is supposedly a modern take on an old world style fantasy rank and flank game before GW brought it back, and is where I'd start my search. They have fairly generic factions like orcs, undead, and elves.
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I am absolutely desperate to get into historicals but between no one playing it and models of dubious quality, hard to take the plunge.

I will say, Victrix look like to be the absolute best 28mm historical models and many could be swapped into TOW. Very dynamic models and decent price imo. I had the same chat with a work colleague who is into TOW but not historical. Phalanx, swordsman, knights are easy to hand wave as empire. As far as proxys go, they can pass pretty well.
 
Meat Target said:
Am I alone in thinking Uriel Ventris is a douchebag, or all blueberries as moto and noblebright as him?

In Dead Sky, Black Sun, he gets shoved into the Daemonculaba and is ready to submit to death, then decides not, to because he has an anime "remember, son, dying is for fags" vision.
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he's only on that planet because he decided to give the finger to the codex and was pragmatic, so no.

the sequel to that book goes into more depth and has a very interesting scene with a grey knight
 
Humble Architect said:
Everyone gets, “Remember son, dying is for fags,” visions. Titus got one, every BA gets one, the Black Templar antagonist in the recent Fulgrim novel got one, Ahriman gets one every book, Fabius even got one from Fulgrim, who tagged in Slaanesh to get Fabius to get with the fucking program.
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Didn't Dante get at least one from the Sanguinor? Its like the 40k trope at this point: a badly wounded man feels ready to throw in the towel, and then they get a vision where someone tells them to man the fuck up because dying is for fags.

Shit, there's even a small side short story in one of the GG books where "Mad" Hlaine Larkin has a visitation from an angel who tells him to quit being a schizo-brained crazy and do his duty and shoot the bastard he came for.
 
Mr Clark said:
I will say, Victrix look like to be the absolute best 28mm historical models
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Perry minis look boss as well, but need a justification to grab em.

Mr Clark said:
I am absolutely desperate to get into historicals but between no one playing it and models of dubious quality, hard to take the plunge.
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I'm curious where you're coming from in terms of models as your base of comparison?

Some kits are winners, and others are losers. With historicals specifically, I notice a trend for softer plastic and annoying habit of having puddle bases. But I'm regularly blown away by indie models. Even the bad kits I can't be mad at because they're so cheap. Some of the casts or sculpts aren't the best, but 40+ guys for £20 is hard to be mad at. That said, I come from old school GW. Mainly 3rd. And my experience with modern GW so far has been various push fit kits. They aren't bad so far.

It's like a trend I notice especially among 40k youtubers where they discover gunpla, are blown away by what a modern kit can be, then immediately go right back to ignoring it's existence.
 
Judge Dredd said:
Perry minis look boss as well, but need a justification to grab em.


I'm curious where you're coming from in terms of models as your base of comparison?

Some kits are winners, and others are losers. With historicals specifically, I notice a trend for softer plastic and annoying habit of having puddle bases. But I'm regularly blown away by indie models. Even the bad kits I can't be mad at because they're so cheap. Some of the casts or sculpts aren't the best, but 40+ guys for £20 is hard to be mad at. That said, I come from old school GW. Mainly 3rd. And my experience with modern GW so far has been various push fit kits. They aren't bad so far.

It's like a trend I notice especially among 40k youtubers where they discover gunpla, are blown away by what a modern kit can be, then immediately go right back to ignoring it's existence.
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Bandai is basically the gold standard for model kits as far as I'm concerned. Also on the subject of alternative sculpts Star grave have some sweet looking servitor alternatives
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Judge Dredd said:
Perry minis look boss as well, but need a justification to grab em.


I'm curious where you're coming from in terms of models as your base of comparison?

Some kits are winners, and others are losers. With historicals specifically, I notice a trend for softer plastic and annoying habit of having puddle bases. But I'm regularly blown away by indie models. Even the bad kits I can't be mad at because they're so cheap. Some of the casts or sculpts aren't the best, but 40+ guys for £20 is hard to be mad at. That said, I come from old school GW. Mainly 3rd. And my experience with modern GW so far has been various push fit kits. They aren't bad so far.

It's like a trend I notice especially among 40k youtubers where they discover gunpla, are blown away by what a modern kit can be, then immediately go right back to ignoring it's existence.
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40k models spoil me. But I find that a lot of metal models are the same cast from the 80s with comical face detail. Victrix appear to not have that problem, but I've only looked at their greek and roman stuff to be fair.

What I love is that if I drop $500 aud on historical, id get hundreds of models for 2-3 armies. If i dropped it on 40k I would JUST get 2k point of custodes, capping at 40ish models.

For anyone looking to proxy TOW, thats how you can save big bucks
 
Mr Clark said:
40k models spoil me. But I find that a lot of metal models are the same cast from the 80s with comical face detail. Victrix appear to not have that problem, but I've only looked at their greek and roman stuff to be fair.
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I think a lot of that stems from the lack of forced updates. Rome is in no danger of releasing Mk XI Legionary armour any time soon and I don't think Napoleon will be undergoing Rubicon surgery, so theres no real reason to introduce new units unless there is a big demand for them or the tooling is lost/damaged. This is why you see companies (especially those dealing in metal miniatures) still selling those classic sculpts with downy faces and relatively static poses.

Personally, I love 'em. I think they've still got their charm and its nice to see companies like Gripping Beast out there covering the really niche stuff.
 
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Bought the Siege Of Terra series of books only to realize they're somewhere in between a full-sized one and a pocketbook. (:_(
 
Muad'Dick said:
I think a lot of that stems from the lack of forced updates. Rome is in no danger of releasing Mk XI Legionary armour any time soon and I don't think Napoleon will be undergoing Rubicon surgery, so theres no real reason to introduce new units unless there is a big demand for them or the tooling is lost/damaged. This is why you see companies (especially those dealing in metal miniatures) still selling those classic sculpts with downy faces and relatively static poses.

Personally, I love 'em. I think they've still got their charm and its nice to see companies like Gripping Beast out there covering the really niche stuff.
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It's also worth noting they're generally still actual 28mm scale, not having been bumped up to 32mm(or more) over time. And in the other scales like 15, 10, 8, etc. you're not painting faces at that point anyway. You can also have your pick of companies to buy historical minis from(literally dozens depending on the era you're interested in) as it isn't like the armor and uniforms are trademarked or anything.
 
Mr Clark said:
I am absolutely desperate to get into historicals but between no one playing it and models of dubious quality, hard to take the plunge.

I will say, Victrix look like to be the absolute best 28mm historical models and many could be swapped into TOW. Very dynamic models and decent price imo. I had the same chat with a work colleague who is into TOW but not historical. Phalanx, swordsman, knights are easy to hand wave as empire. As far as proxys go, they can pass pretty well.
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Judge Dredd said:
Perry minis look boss as well, but need a justification to grab em.
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I can personally vouch for both Victrix and Perry's being top notch minis. The sole issue with them is being true scale means certain things like weapon hilts/shafts are a lot skinnier than heroic scale, and thus more fragile, and mold lines being a bit harder to clean on fiddlier bits like the arms.
Besides that, easily 10/10 model lines from both of them.

I've also heard good things about wargames atlantics stuff, but I don't own any of them so can't speak from personal knowledge.
 
Primer Colonel Ragout said:
Not exactly on topic but anyone know some group for get stl models for warhammer fantasy? I want to get some old ones like grail knights, nagash, skaven.

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@Edilg I am sending dm with some sites. They aren't that secret but I got helsreach from there.
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This guy monstrous encounters had alot of oldhammer type STLs and he has a promo for May where you sign up for 20 bucks and get his entire library, lots of 80s type shit including bretonnians (im pretty sure its the full old school roster) including Grail Knights
 
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Rimanah said:
I've also heard good things about wargames atlantics stuff, but I don't own any of them so can't speak from personal knowledge.
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Wargames Atlantic are top tier. Definitely in my top 10 mini manufacturers.

The STLs they put out are very good too. I think they've only released their minis in digital format for about 3 years and they already have 400+ kits to choose from.
 
Muad'Dick said:
Wargames Atlantic are top tier. Definitely in my top 10 mini manufacturers.

The STLs they put out are very good too. I think they've only released their minis in digital format for about 3 years and they already have 400+ kits to choose from.
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I'm guessing theyre for resin printers? Ive seen their models and I absolutely agree. Top stuff. Any other recommendations? Ive got a few more stl stores bookmarked for when my non-resin printer finally arrives and the quality really is out there, they just need a widely accepted or played set of rules to truly challenge GW.

A while ago I spoke about other IPs getting into it like Starcraft. Can you imagine the money Blizzard would make if they put their IPs on the tabletop? Or Bethesda with Elder Scrolls? The DnD crowd would go nuts thats for sure, let alone tabletop players.
 
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