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Alright boys, let's see some lists. I'm taking the angels out tomorrow and this is what I'm bringing.

blood angels
Adeptus Astartes - Strike Force - Eternal War ( 9CP - 1955PT - 45PT )


Adeptus Astartes Battalion Detachment ( 3CP - 1955PT )
SUB-FACTION: Blood Angels
HQ
WARLORD: Captain (140) Thunder hammer, Jump pack, Storm shield
TRAITS: Blood Angels: Speed of the Primarch
RELICS: Icon of the Angel

Chief Librarian Mephiston (155)
PSYCHIC POWERS: Quickening, Shield of Sanguinius, Unleash Rage

Primaris Techmarine (80)
TROOPS
Heavy Intercessor Squad (140)
1x Heavy Intercessor Sergeant
4x Heavy Intercessor

Infiltrator Squad (120)
1x Infiltrator Sergeant
4x Infiltrator

Infiltrator Squad (120)
1x Infiltrator Sergeant
4x Infiltrator
ELITES
Company Champion (70)
UPGRADE: Chapter Champion
TRAITS: The Imperium's Sword
RELICS: The Armour Indomitus
STRATAGEMS: Hero of the Chapter

Company Veterans (120)
1x Company Veteran: 2x Astartes chainsword, Storm shield
1x Company Veteran Sergeant: Astartes chainsword, Storm shield
3x Company Veteran: Astartes chainsword, Storm shield

Death Company Marines (300)
2x Death Company Marine: Thunder hammer
2x Death Company Marine: Power fist
6x Death Company Marine

Leviathan Dreadnought (235) 3x Hunter-killer missile

Sanguinary Guard (310)
2x Sanguinary Guard: Power fist
2x Sanguinary Guard: Encarmine axe
6x Sanguinary Guard

Terminator Assault Squad (165)
1x Assault Terminator Sergeant
4x Assault Terminator

STRATAGEMS
Hero of the Chapter (1CP)
Honoured by the Arx Angelicum (1CP)

Total Command Points: 6/15
Total Points: 1955/2000

Game plan is the the infiltrators will be pretty much deployed on 2 objectives, and be annoying to shift. The heavy squad will be a set and forget on the back objective.

The captain and Sanguinary guard are gonna be doing aura shenanigans and really focus down anything super threatening.

The death company and mephiston are just gonna be a speedy blender, mephiston is gonna spam unleash rage.

Techmarine and the leviathan are obvious.

The chapter champion is my janny, he will sweep up whatever is left very easily. The veterans are his bodyguards, with them the champion will be safe to footslog.

Terminators are gonna do the terminator thing.
 
Love_Machine011 said:
Alright boys, let's see some lists. I'm taking the angels out tomorrow and this is what I'm bringing.

blood angels
Adeptus Astartes - Strike Force - Eternal War ( 9CP - 1955PT - 45PT )


Adeptus Astartes Battalion Detachment ( 3CP - 1955PT )
SUB-FACTION: Blood Angels
HQ
WARLORD: Captain (140) Thunder hammer, Jump pack, Storm shield
TRAITS: Blood Angels: Speed of the Primarch
RELICS: Icon of the Angel

Chief Librarian Mephiston (155)
PSYCHIC POWERS: Quickening, Shield of Sanguinius, Unleash Rage

Primaris Techmarine (80)
TROOPS
Heavy Intercessor Squad (140)
1x Heavy Intercessor Sergeant
4x Heavy Intercessor

Infiltrator Squad (120)
1x Infiltrator Sergeant
4x Infiltrator

Infiltrator Squad (120)
1x Infiltrator Sergeant
4x Infiltrator
ELITES
Company Champion (70)
UPGRADE: Chapter Champion
TRAITS: The Imperium's Sword
RELICS: The Armour Indomitus
STRATAGEMS: Hero of the Chapter

Company Veterans (120)
1x Company Veteran: 2x Astartes chainsword, Storm shield
1x Company Veteran Sergeant: Astartes chainsword, Storm shield
3x Company Veteran: Astartes chainsword, Storm shield

Death Company Marines (300)
2x Death Company Marine: Thunder hammer
2x Death Company Marine: Power fist
6x Death Company Marine

Leviathan Dreadnought (235) 3x Hunter-killer missile

Sanguinary Guard (310)
2x Sanguinary Guard: Power fist
2x Sanguinary Guard: Encarmine axe
6x Sanguinary Guard

Terminator Assault Squad (165)
1x Assault Terminator Sergeant
4x Assault Terminator

STRATAGEMS
Hero of the Chapter (1CP)
Honoured by the Arx Angelicum (1CP)

Total Command Points: 6/15
Total Points: 1955/2000

Game plan is the the infiltrators will be pretty much deployed on 2 objectives, and be annoying to shift. The heavy squad will be a set and forget on the back objective.

The captain and Sanguinary guard are gonna be doing aura shenanigans and really focus down anything super threatening.

The death company and mephiston are just gonna be a speedy blender, mephiston is gonna spam unleash rage.

Techmarine and the leviathan are obvious.

The chapter champion is my janny, he will sweep up whatever is left very easily. The veterans are his bodyguards, with them the champion will be safe to footslog.

Terminators are gonna do the terminator thing.
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Looks pretty solid.
 
Love_Machine011 said:
Alright boys, let's see some lists. I'm taking the angels out tomorrow and this is what I'm bringing.

blood angels
Adeptus Astartes - Strike Force - Eternal War ( 9CP - 1955PT - 45PT )


Adeptus Astartes Battalion Detachment ( 3CP - 1955PT )
SUB-FACTION: Blood Angels
HQ
WARLORD: Captain (140) Thunder hammer, Jump pack, Storm shield
TRAITS: Blood Angels: Speed of the Primarch
RELICS: Icon of the Angel

Chief Librarian Mephiston (155)
PSYCHIC POWERS: Quickening, Shield of Sanguinius, Unleash Rage

Primaris Techmarine (80)
TROOPS
Heavy Intercessor Squad (140)
1x Heavy Intercessor Sergeant
4x Heavy Intercessor

Infiltrator Squad (120)
1x Infiltrator Sergeant
4x Infiltrator

Infiltrator Squad (120)
1x Infiltrator Sergeant
4x Infiltrator
ELITES
Company Champion (70)
UPGRADE: Chapter Champion
TRAITS: The Imperium's Sword
RELICS: The Armour Indomitus
STRATAGEMS: Hero of the Chapter

Company Veterans (120)
1x Company Veteran: 2x Astartes chainsword, Storm shield
1x Company Veteran Sergeant: Astartes chainsword, Storm shield
3x Company Veteran: Astartes chainsword, Storm shield

Death Company Marines (300)
2x Death Company Marine: Thunder hammer
2x Death Company Marine: Power fist
6x Death Company Marine

Leviathan Dreadnought (235) 3x Hunter-killer missile

Sanguinary Guard (310)
2x Sanguinary Guard: Power fist
2x Sanguinary Guard: Encarmine axe
6x Sanguinary Guard

Terminator Assault Squad (165)
1x Assault Terminator Sergeant
4x Assault Terminator

STRATAGEMS
Hero of the Chapter (1CP)
Honoured by the Arx Angelicum (1CP)

Total Command Points: 6/15
Total Points: 1955/2000

Game plan is the the infiltrators will be pretty much deployed on 2 objectives, and be annoying to shift. The heavy squad will be a set and forget on the back objective.

The captain and Sanguinary guard are gonna be doing aura shenanigans and really focus down anything super threatening.

The death company and mephiston are just gonna be a speedy blender, mephiston is gonna spam unleash rage.

Techmarine and the leviathan are obvious.

The chapter champion is my janny, he will sweep up whatever is left very easily. The veterans are his bodyguards, with them the champion will be safe to footslog.

Terminators are gonna do the terminator thing.
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It seems like a good list. Some things I'd shift around or try is giving the company champion his trait for more rerolling charges just in case since your list lacks that sort of thing outside of Smashfucker. SH/SS cap is a classic but other than him there's no counters to fight first/last shenanigans in your list and those seem to be getting pretty common, giving Mephiston the tome of malcador and veil of time is an easy fix and adds more rerolling charges too so it might be worth it depending on your local guys.
 
Love_Machine011 said:
Alright boys, let's see some lists. I'm taking the angels out tomorrow and this is what I'm bringing.

blood angels
Adeptus Astartes - Strike Force - Eternal War ( 9CP - 1955PT - 45PT )


Adeptus Astartes Battalion Detachment ( 3CP - 1955PT )
SUB-FACTION: Blood Angels
HQ
WARLORD: Captain (140) Thunder hammer, Jump pack, Storm shield
TRAITS: Blood Angels: Speed of the Primarch
RELICS: Icon of the Angel

Chief Librarian Mephiston (155)
PSYCHIC POWERS: Quickening, Shield of Sanguinius, Unleash Rage

Primaris Techmarine (80)
TROOPS
Heavy Intercessor Squad (140)
1x Heavy Intercessor Sergeant
4x Heavy Intercessor

Infiltrator Squad (120)
1x Infiltrator Sergeant
4x Infiltrator

Infiltrator Squad (120)
1x Infiltrator Sergeant
4x Infiltrator
ELITES
Company Champion (70)
UPGRADE: Chapter Champion
TRAITS: The Imperium's Sword
RELICS: The Armour Indomitus
STRATAGEMS: Hero of the Chapter

Company Veterans (120)
1x Company Veteran: 2x Astartes chainsword, Storm shield
1x Company Veteran Sergeant: Astartes chainsword, Storm shield
3x Company Veteran: Astartes chainsword, Storm shield

Death Company Marines (300)
2x Death Company Marine: Thunder hammer
2x Death Company Marine: Power fist
6x Death Company Marine

Leviathan Dreadnought (235) 3x Hunter-killer missile

Sanguinary Guard (310)
2x Sanguinary Guard: Power fist
2x Sanguinary Guard: Encarmine axe
6x Sanguinary Guard

Terminator Assault Squad (165)
1x Assault Terminator Sergeant
4x Assault Terminator

STRATAGEMS
Hero of the Chapter (1CP)
Honoured by the Arx Angelicum (1CP)

Total Command Points: 6/15
Total Points: 1955/2000

Game plan is the the infiltrators will be pretty much deployed on 2 objectives, and be annoying to shift. The heavy squad will be a set and forget on the back objective.

The captain and Sanguinary guard are gonna be doing aura shenanigans and really focus down anything super threatening.

The death company and mephiston are just gonna be a speedy blender, mephiston is gonna spam unleash rage.

Techmarine and the leviathan are obvious.

The chapter champion is my janny, he will sweep up whatever is left very easily. The veterans are his bodyguards, with them the champion will be safe to footslog.

Terminators are gonna do the terminator thing.
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Raptors
Adeptus Astartes - Strikeforce - Eternal War ( 10CP - 2000PT - 0PT )

Adeptus Astartes Battalion Detachment ( 3CP - 2000PT )
SUB-FACTION: Raven Guard
HQ
WARLORD: Captain in Phobos Armour (135)
UPGRADE: Chapter Master
TRAITS: Stealth Adept, Target Priority
RELICS: Ex Tenebris
STRATAGEMS: Master of the Trifold Path
Librarian in Phobos Armour (125)
UPGRADE: Chief Librarian
TRAITS: Ambush Tactics
PSYCHIC POWERS: Spectral Blade , The Abyss
STRATAGEMS: Hero of the Chapter
Primaris Chaplain on Bike (140)
UPGRADE: Master of Sanctity
LITANIES: Canticle of Hate (Aura)
RELICS: Benediction of Fury
STRATAGEMS: Relic of the Chapter

TROOPS
Incursor Squad (115)
3x Incursor
1x Incursor Sergeant
1x Incursor: Haywire mine
Incursor Squad (115)
3x Incursor
1x Incursor Sergeant
1x Incursor: Haywire mine
Infiltrator Squad (125)
3x Infiltrator
1x Infiltrator Sergeant
1x Infiltrator: Infiltrator comms array
Infiltrator Squad (125)
3x Infiltrator
1x Infiltrator Sergeant
1x Infiltrator: Infiltrator comms array

ELITES
Aggressor Squad (160)
1x Aggressor Sergeant: 2x Auto boltstorm gauntlet, Fragstorm grenade launcher
3x Aggressor: 2x Auto boltstorm gauntlet, Fragstorm grenade launcher
Invictor Tactical Warsuit (160) Twin ironhail autocannon
Reiver Squad (100)
1x Reiver Sergeant: Reiver grav-chute
4x Reiver: Reiver grav-chute
Reiver Squad (100)
1x Reiver Sergeant: Grapnel launcher
4x Reiver: Grapnel launcher

FAST ATTACK
Outrider Squad (150)
2x Outrider
1x Outrider Sergeant
Outrider Squad (150)
2x Outrider
1x Outrider Sergeant

HEAVY SUPPORT
Eliminator Squad (90)
2x Eliminator
1x Eliminator Sergeant
Eliminator Squad (90)
2x Eliminator
1x Eliminator Sergeant
Eliminator Squad (120)
1x Eliminator Sergeant: Las fusil
2x Eliminator: Las fusil

STRATAGEMS
Master of the Trifold Path (1CP)
Relic of the Chapter (1CP)
Hero of the chapter (1CP)

Total Command Points: 6/15
Reinforcement Points: 0
Total Points: 2000/2000


Same idea as you with the Infiltrators but the Incursors also pack an extra punch. If I really wanna win I can replace the 2 Reiver Squads but I actually really like Reivers a little to much. Raven Guard rules are pretty fun since you effectively do not need transports also I have the little rape bike bubble of Chaplain and 6 bikes in case I really need to hit the frontlines hard.
 
iceteayo said:
Raptors
Adeptus Astartes - Strikeforce - Eternal War ( 10CP - 2000PT - 0PT )

Adeptus Astartes Battalion Detachment ( 3CP - 2000PT )
SUB-FACTION: Raven Guard
HQ
WARLORD: Captain in Phobos Armour (135)
UPGRADE: Chapter Master
TRAITS: Stealth Adept, Target Priority
RELICS: Ex Tenebris
STRATAGEMS: Master of the Trifold Path
Librarian in Phobos Armour (125)
UPGRADE: Chief Librarian
TRAITS: Ambush Tactics
PSYCHIC POWERS: Spectral Blade , The Abyss
STRATAGEMS: Hero of the Chapter
Primaris Chaplain on Bike (140)
UPGRADE: Master of Sanctity
LITANIES: Canticle of Hate (Aura)
RELICS: Benediction of Fury
STRATAGEMS: Relic of the Chapter

TROOPS
Incursor Squad (115)
3x Incursor
1x Incursor Sergeant
1x Incursor: Haywire mine
Incursor Squad (115)
3x Incursor
1x Incursor Sergeant
1x Incursor: Haywire mine
Infiltrator Squad (125)
3x Infiltrator
1x Infiltrator Sergeant
1x Infiltrator: Infiltrator comms array
Infiltrator Squad (125)
3x Infiltrator
1x Infiltrator Sergeant
1x Infiltrator: Infiltrator comms array

ELITES
Aggressor Squad (160)
1x Aggressor Sergeant: 2x Auto boltstorm gauntlet, Fragstorm grenade launcher
3x Aggressor: 2x Auto boltstorm gauntlet, Fragstorm grenade launcher
Invictor Tactical Warsuit (160) Twin ironhail autocannon
Reiver Squad (100)
1x Reiver Sergeant: Reiver grav-chute
4x Reiver: Reiver grav-chute
Reiver Squad (100)
1x Reiver Sergeant: Grapnel launcher
4x Reiver: Grapnel launcher

FAST ATTACK
Outrider Squad (150)
2x Outrider
1x Outrider Sergeant
Outrider Squad (150)
2x Outrider
1x Outrider Sergeant

HEAVY SUPPORT
Eliminator Squad (90)
2x Eliminator
1x Eliminator Sergeant
Eliminator Squad (90)
2x Eliminator
1x Eliminator Sergeant
Eliminator Squad (120)
1x Eliminator Sergeant: Las fusil
2x Eliminator: Las fusil

STRATAGEMS
Master of the Trifold Path (1CP)
Relic of the Chapter (1CP)
Hero of the chapter (1CP)

Total Command Points: 6/15
Reinforcement Points: 0
Total Points: 2000/2000


Same idea as you with the Infiltrators but the Incursors also pack an extra punch. If I really wanna win I can replace the 2 Reiver Squads but I actually really like Reivers a little to much. Raven Guard rules are pretty fun since you effectively do not need transports also I have the little rape bike bubble of Chaplain and 6 bikes in case I really need to hit the frontlines hard.
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Feels like it packs some punch.
 
++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Raven Guard) [99 PL, 11CP, 1,999pts] ++

+ Configuration +

**Chapter Selection**: Inheritors of the Primarch, Raven Guard Successor

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment Command Cost

+ HQ +

Chapter Master in Phobos Armour [7 PL, 135pts]: 2. Lord of Deceit, Chapter Command: Chapter Master, Warlord

Librarian in Phobos Armour [6 PL, 125pts]: 1) Shrouding, 2) Soul Sight, 6) Temporal Corridor, Chapter Command: Chief Librarian

Lieutenants [8 PL, 155pts]
. Lieutenant in Phobos Armour: Ex Tenebris
. Lieutenant in Reiver Armour

+ Troops +

Incursor Squad [5 PL, 115pts]: Haywire Mine
. 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired combat blades
. Incursor Sergeant

Incursor Squad [5 PL, 115pts]: Haywire Mine
. 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired combat blades
. Incursor Sergeant

Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 125pts]: Infiltrator comms array
. 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine
. Infiltrator Sergeant

Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 125pts]: Infiltrator comms array
. 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine
. Infiltrator Sergeant

+ Elites +

Deredeo Dreadnought [11 PL, -1CP, 220pts]: Aiolos missile launcher, Twin heavy bolter, Volkite falconet battery

Invictor Tactical Warsuit [8 PL, 160pts]: Incendium cannon

+ Fast Attack +

Outrider Squad [6 PL, 150pts]: Outrider Sgt
. 2x Outrider: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Twin Bolt rifle

Suppressor Squad [5 PL, 100pts]
. 2x Suppressor: 2x Accelerator autocannon, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades
. Suppressor Sergeant

+ Heavy Support +

Eliminator Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Bolt sniper rifle
. Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt sniper rifle
. 2x Eliminators: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Camo cloak, 2x Frag & Krak grenades

Eliminator Squad [5 PL, 120pts]: Las Fusil
. Eliminator Sergeant: Las Fusil
. 2x Eliminators: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Camo cloak, 2x Frag & Krak grenades

Hellblaster Squad [16 PL, 264pts]: Heavy Plasma Incinerator
. 7x Hellblaster: 7x Bolt pistol, 7x Frag & Krak grenades
. Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol

++ Total: [99 PL, 11CP, 1,999pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

So this is a very hastily thought up list with what I'm considering getting.
 
Polyboros2 said:
++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Raven Guard) [99 PL, 11CP, 1,999pts] ++
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I feel like the troops are likely to get pushed off objectives without much effort but you got some decent speed bumps to pull away the attention of the enemy. I like the eliminators and the phobos focus though, the hate they get for modern aesthetics is unwarranted. I haven't seen hell blasters do much so maybe swap that for a tank of some kind
 
Brubby said:
I feel like the troops are likely to get pushed off objectives without much effort but you got some decent speed bumps to pull away the attention of the enemy. I like the eliminators and the phobos focus though, the hate they get for modern aesthetics is unwarranted. I haven't seen hell blasters do much so maybe swap that for a tank of some kind
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I appreciate the advice. It's literally the first army list I've put together, and I've been thinking a lot about it since building it last night. My next purchase, after the 9th Elite Starter, is going to be 2 Start Collecting Vanguard Space Marines, and building off that is part of my focus.

I'm very much building this as a fluffy Your Guys army and not trying to be super competitive while also not being trash. I'm kinda opposed to anything bigger than a walker, I like dreads and hate astartes armor based on appearance. However I did feel like the army had a harder time punching anything bigger than Primaris.

So the long range (I'm currently on the fence of straight up taking Raven Guard tactics or splitting the light cover at range with something else) and 2 damage of the cannon Hellblasters appealed to me, hanging out with the Captain/Chapter Master if needs to over charge, feels less like you always have to with 1 to 2 damage over charge.(edit, looking at Stats, I'm probably better going fusils, for about the same cost I'm trading a S8AP3D3 shot for a S8AP4D2 shot that risks getting hot to go up a strength and a damage. The only advantage is Hellblasters can be bigger squads for strategem/Captain command phase buff, but Eliminators can be target of the Phobos librarian reroll all hit and ignore cover psychic power)
 
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Polyboros2 said:
I appreciate the advice. It's literally the first army list I've put together, and I've been thinking a lot about it since building it last night. My next purchase, after the 9th Elite Starter, is going to be 2 Start Collecting Vanguard Space Marines, and building off that is part of my focus.

I'm very much building this as a fluffy Your Guys army and not trying to be super competitive while also not being trash. I'm kinda opposed to anything bigger than a walker, I like dreads and hate astartes armor based on appearance. However I did feel like the army had a harder time punching anything bigger than Primaris.

So the long range (I'm currently on the fence of straight up taking Raven Guard tactics or splitting the light cover at range with something else) and 2 damage of the cannon Hellblasters appealed to me, hanging out with the Captain/Chapter Master if needs to over charge, feels less like you always have to with 1 to 2 damage over charge.
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Ravenguard rules dont particularly do anything impressive for ranged armies unfortunately.
 
Love_Machine011 said:
Ravenguard rules dont particularly do anything impressive for ranged armies unfortunately.
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A lot of this started as a Raptors army, and I'm slowly getting less attached to things like a sniper chapter Master as I more and more get into My Guys.
 
Polyboros2 said:
A lot of this started as a Raptors army, and I'm slowly getting less attached to things like a sniper chapter Master as I more and more get into My Guys.
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The issue with phobos heavy lists is they depend heavily on their movement shenanigans, and really aren't particularly threatening. Obviously I'm just looking at effectiveness, but if this is fluffy for your dudes, so be it. The lists most threatening units are the outriders and the deradeo. If you want some more effectiveness, some notes from me would be.

>Include a techmarine to keep the deradeo firing.
>Drop the hell blasters they really aren't doing much for you and don't have any synergy. Maybe use the points to pump up the outrider numbers.
>Perhaps swap the warsuit for a redempter. The redempter is durable enough to not have to be babysat by a techmarine, and wouldn't want to be something a lot of other armies would want to tango with.
 
iceteayo said:
Yes but Raven guard can make anything deep strike
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That's a good point. But you shouldn't have your main source of damage be left up to how well your opponent can screen you when they're so slow. Aggresors aren't super durable either.
 
I won't say to buy a tank, because I don't particularly think they're super awesome right now.
 
How about assault centurions.
It's hard for me to give good advice on primaris stuff as it is all broken as hell and hilariously unbalanced, options and pointswise.
 
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