Weight loss support thread

[Wujime]

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The banana on the right is basically what grew in nature before we mutated them with agriculture and selective breeding, it's sour like a lemon with barely any carbs and tastes like shit and is all seeds and no fruit flesh. Similar story with any other fruit/vegetable you can think of, nobody's eating that crap.
Also fruit is only in season for a few weeks a year and only grows close to the equator whilst you can slaughter an animal any time you feel like and dehydrated meat lasts at least a decade (see what the native American Indians call Pemican).

Carbs are in the milk you drink as soon as you pop out of your mother's vaggoo you schizo.

 

[Curse of the Sonichu]

Carbs are in the milk you drink as soon as you pop out of your mother's vaggoo you schizo.

Yes to make you fat (healthy babies are chubby babies) incase you encounter famine so the baby still has energy.
Nobody is going to spend 1500 calories and hours of hard work collecting fruits and vegetables that taste sour and bitter to get maybe 200calories that's retarded when one cow lasts a single person 12-18months.
And the carbs in mammal milk is lactose, but the carbs in your blood is glucose why is that? Wouldn't it be less work to make milk with glucose?
Because glucose is toxic (if you think it isn't look at all the health problems someone with diabetes has from high blood glucose levels) and the lactose doesn't turn into glucose until the moment it's absorbed. Glucose sticks to fat and protein so will prevent the baby from absorbing all the fat and protein in the milk,

 

[Wujime]

Yes to make you fat (healthy babies are chubby babies) incase you encounter famine so the baby still has energy.
Nobody is going to spend 1500 calories and hours of hard work collecting fruits and vegetables that taste sour and bitter to get maybe 200calories that's retarded when one cow lasts a single person 12-18months.
And the carbs in mammal milk is lactose, but the carbs in your blood is glucose why is that? Wouldn't it be less work to make milk with glucose?
Because glucose is toxic (if you think it isn't look at all the health problems someone with diabetes has from high blood glucose levels) and the lactose doesn't turn into glucose until the moment it's absorbed. Glucose sticks to fat and protein so will prevent the baby from absorbing all the fat and protein in the milk,

Yeah look at all those obese Rice eating gooks.
This Mikhaila Peterson grift has to stop. Most people eat carbs and are fine. Your whole logic if one even can call it that, is viced by taking the pathological group without taking into consideration the "control" group so to speak whatsoever. Glucose is not toxic because most thin and healthy people eat glucose and are perfectly fine.
But I should know better than to argue about this shit online, it never works out.

 

[Professor Donger]

No idea how the fuck it happened but I dropped 10 pounds just from cutting booze and soda. Not much more to go to hit my goal, but Jesus just not drinking soda or alcohol is tremendous.

Soda has a shit ton of Carbs. A 12 ounce can of coke has 39 grams of carbs, 30-50 grams of carbs are the current max that I'm allowed to have.

They also have 140 calories per 12 ounce can.

A can of beer has 13 grams of carbs and 154 calories on average, So if you were drinking a lot of alcohol and soda that quickly adds up.

A lot of the weight I've been dropping has been specifically because I've cut regular soda completely out of my life. If I'm craving a soda I get a zero sugar or diet one.

 

[Curse of the Sonichu]

Yeah look at all those obese Rice eating gooks.
This Mikhaila Peterson grift has to stop. Most people eat carbs and are fine. Your whole logic if one even can call it that, is viced by taking the pathological group without taking into consideration the "control" group so to speak whatsoever. Glucose is not toxic because most thin and healthy people eat glucose and are perfectly fine.
But I should know better than to argue about this shit online, it never works out.

Most people are fat and gross unless they starve themselves or use hacks like meth or glp-1's etc for weightloss, Ozempic is synthetic lizard venom btw, just as nature intended I'm sure.
Our brains have shrunk over 10% since agriculture started from malnutrition and carb destruction, most white peoples teeth don't even fit in their jaws because our jaws are underdeveloped because we've been eating fake food the longest.

btw if I slip up on carnivore I still put on weight too, just not as quickly. Once I slipped up on purpose to see how quickly my body would change, I intended to do my carnivore strategy of eating when hungry until I'm full. The first week I just ordered doordash and for example one day I was eating mcdonalds and I needed 3 large double quarter pounder meals to kinda satisfy my hunger, and it still wasn't quite enough. If I continued in that fashion I would eventually reach 150kg/350lbs+ or more I'm sure. I gained 5 kg in a week mostly in viseral fat and holding onto more water (you need 3 parts water for every part glucose in your body and your glucose levels are always way higher when you eat carbs).
When I went back on carnivore to make it kinda fair I bought a deepfryer and filled it with Ghee(milk fat) because seed oils seem to increase insulin resistance and becomes toxic when heated, I could physically feel my visceral fat disappear within 2 days and it was back to normal in 2 weeks or so.

 

[Me•cha•ni•cal]

pro tip: having cravings but don’t want to mess up your diet? Check out the SRS thread. Works every time.

 

[Lip Glossary]

Soda has a shit ton of Carbs. A 12 ounce can of coke has 39 grams of carbs, 30-50 grams of carbs are the current max that I'm allowed to have.

They also have 140 calories per 12 ounce can.

A can of beer has 13 grams of carbs and 154 calories on average, So if you were drinking a lot of alcohol and soda that quickly adds up.

A lot of the weight I've been dropping has been specifically because I've cut regular soda completely out of my life. If I'm craving a soda I get a zero sugar or diet one.

I was drinking maybe 12-18 dozen pints of beer a month but the soda was the real killer. I was drinking so many of them that I had to taper off of soda. For a straight week I was irritable and I would snap at people and it was worse than when I quit smoking.
That high fructose corn syrup is a mother fucker to kick. Now I understand why my mom didn't let me drink soda until I was 10, and even then it was a once in a blue moon type deal.

 

[Professor Donger]

I was drinking maybe 12-18 dozen pints of beer a month but the soda was the real killer. I was drinking so many of them that I had to taper off of soda. For a straight week I was irritable and I would snap at people and it was worse than when I quit smoking.
That high fructose corn syrup is a mother fucker to kick. Now I understand why my mom didn't let me drink soda until I was 10, and even then it was a once in a blue moon type deal.

In telling you, zero sugar sodas are a game changer. Yeah the artificial sweetener isn't the best for you but it's a hell of a lot better than High Fructose Corn Syrup

 

[Lip Glossary]

In telling you, zero sugar sodas are a game changer. Yeah the artificial sweetener isn't the best for you but it's a hell of a lot better than High Fructose Corn Syrup

I just switched fully into tea. I used to do tea in the morning and then sodas throughout the day now I just drink tea and water. It's not the sweetener that I need it's the caffeine.

 

[Professor Donger]

I just switched fully into tea. I used to do tea in the morning and then sodas throughout the day now I just drink tea and water. It's not the sweetener that I need it's the caffeine.

I have the problem of needing the sweetness because I'm prediabetic and my brain craves sugar

But luckily it's been getting better since I started Zepbound. Zero sugar dr.pepper is too sweet for me to drink now

 

[cactus]

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The banana on the right is basically what grew in nature before we mutated them with agriculture and selective breeding, it's sour like a lemon with barely any carbs and tastes like shit and is all seeds and no fruit flesh. Similar story with any other fruit/vegetable you can think of, nobody's eating that crap.
Also fruit is only in season for a few weeks a year and only grows close to the equator whilst you can slaughter an animal any time you feel like and dehydrated meat lasts at least a decade (see what the native American Indians call Pemican).

What does this have to do with that I said? Other fruit existed before humans engineered bananas to be edible. But to play into your strawman argument: people willingly eat durian and it smells like a rotting corpse.

Well no shit you dingus, everything has a season, even certain kinds of meat because of seasonal migrations and when animals are born. That didn't mean they just went fuck it, that shit ain't worth it and gave up on it, they waited for next year to eat it. You can also dry fruit and pickle it. I think all that meat is making your brain too fat to think.

 

[Curse of the Sonichu]

What does this have to do with that I said? Other fruit existed before humans engineered bananas to be edible. But to play into your strawman argument: people willingly eat durian and it smells like a rotting corpse.

Well no shit you dingus, everything has a season, even certain kinds of meat because of seasonal migrations and when animals are born. That didn't mean they just went fuck it, that shit ain't worth it and gave up on it, they waited for next year to eat it. You can also dry fruit and pickle it. I think all that meat is making your brain too fat to think.

Only vegan crazies eat Durian and it's been engineered just as much as any other fruit/vegetable, nobody's eating that gross shit before agriculture for the same reason nobody's eating rotten fish. And since you're so confidently wrong I found a reddit link for you showing a bunch of fruits and vegetables in their unmolested state, turns out they were all worthless.

https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/6l9nvu/what_fruits_and_vegetables_looked_like_before_we/

Seasons don't matter for meat because meat is everywhere all the time, if you lived in Antarctica you could do better than 99.9% of people on the mainland just eating seal and fish all year round. Also your brain is meant to be made of 60% fat (about 50% cholesterol and 50% omega 3 fat) so calling someone fat brained isn't the insult you think it is (YoUr MusClEs HaVe ToO MuCh PrOtEiN To be StRoNg LoLz). The dry weight of your brain is meant to be 80% fat. But if you're really worried about too much fat and cholesterol in your brain when your doctor offers you statins take them. Statins reduce your livers ability to make cholesterol by 50% (liver makes about 25 eggs worth of cholesterol every day from saturated fat) so good luck staving off dementia with that.

 

[Lip Glossary]

I have to say it and I mean no offense to people here, because I actually did it short term to try and drop weight, but I have noticed that everywhere online people who do the carnivore diet are just as insufferable as vegans, except they don't see it.

 

[Professor Donger]

I have to say it and I mean no offense to people here, because I actually did it short term to try and drop weight, but I have noticed that everywhere online people who do the carnivore diet are just as insufferable as vegans, except they don't see it.

They also lie about the health issues they end up having from doing it

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

Over the past 6 months I've lost and kept off almost 25#, AMA

DAILY ROUTINE
-.75-1g protein per pound bodyweight
-1-2 pounds vegetables (raw and steamed)
-ultrafiltered skim milk (Fairlife)
-calisthenics

Additional:
-Weight training 4-5 days/week
-stretching
-walk to/from work
-sweets, junk food in moderation
-cheat day once/week (eat anything I want)

Has not been easy, but it's stuck

 

[Lip Glossary]

They also lie about the health issues they end up having from doing it

The only reason that I do it short term is because it is effective at losing a bit of weight, but it makes me feel worse than I have ever felt in my entire life. It's fine to use it short term to drop a little pudge but it's not worth it long term with the chest pains and out of breathness and all around feeling of unhealthiness. It's funny because vegan makes me feel deficient all the time, and so does carnivore. Carnivore and vegan really are two different sides of the same stupid coin.
My favorite argument that people make is that carnivore is the original diet we ate when we were cave men pre agriculture, and my counter argument to that would be do you mean back when we had a life expectancy of fucking fourteen and a half?
Anything that was around as far back as when the old testament was written is probably safe at this point, so eat a fucking salad with your steak and stop trying to make excuses to leave half the plate full. I want to shove a pot roast into the mouth of every vegan I've ever heard talk to me and a fucking mango into the mouth of the carnivores.

 

[Battery Low]

I share plenty of the views of the low carb and carnivore crew. I'm wary of statins. I think the easiest way to not overeat is to focus on protein and fats. I avoid, but don't exclude, seed oils and non-animal fats.

However the evangelical turbo-autism is very off putting. I also think that there's a divide between people looking for some kind of optimal health diet and Jo Bloggs who just wants to shed a few pounds without hating his life.

The important thing often overlooked is that both of these objectives look different for different people. There is not one single diet for optimal health as a one size fits all deal. I do great on low carb, but a lack of fibre makes my husband feel ill.

Similarly, he is a foodie and anything other than "everything allowed in moderation" would remove half the joy from his life. We both have eggs at breakfast time for satiety and nutrition purposes but he fills up on salad for bulk and texture, It serves a psychological need of his.

I have twice the amount of eggs but just seasoned (soy sauce, chilli sauce, black pepper, vinegar) to fill up on fat and flavour. I put protein at the centre of my diet as I feel healthiest that way. It's also lowest cal:gram and I do not play well with carbs.

Some people hate veg and are happy without seasonings other than salt. Good for them.

Calling everyone who adheres to a different diet to you a retard whilst screaming WAKE UP SHEEPLE isn't the most effective way to win friends or influence people. Who'd have thought?!

Saying that, watching vegans and carnivores get into slap fights on Xitter is a bit of an off site cow-watching hobby of mine. So maybe keep as you are, I guess.

 

[Curse of the Sonichu]

I guess you're replying to me, I didn't make fun of him until he called bullshit on facts I knew to be true (it's true I haven't woken up with boners since I was a teenager), I was also called skizo before I started throwing retard around for him being so confidentially wrong.
I know only a small % of people are only going to realistically stick to a zero carb carnivore diet, most of the ones who do stick to it seem to do it because it eases their autoimmune conditions not for weight. Most people who do it for a while to lose weight and do, then disappear for 1-2 years get fat again then come back.
When I grew up in the 80's this is what people looked like. People like this grew up on a diet of meat and 3 veg sandwiches and drank heavily (good amount of carbs) whenever they weren't working, didn't exercise for the sake of exercising, so clearly carbs aren't the only problem. They held decent weight and bodyshape well into their 30's and a very large amount never had any weight problem (though they don't look too good now in terms of health and body shape though).
Clearly something has changed with how many grotesquely fat people there are now and it's not too hard to figure out what those differences are(soy, seed oils more sugar, chemicals unfound in nature in the food etc).

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

I guess you're replying to me, I didn't make fun of him until he called bullshit on facts I knew to be true (it's true I haven't woken up with boners since I was a teenager), I was also called skizo before I started throwing retard around for him being so confidentially wrong.
I know only a small % of people are only going to realistically stick to a zero carb carnivore diet, most of the ones who do stick to it seem to do it because it eases their autoimmune conditions not for weight. Most people who do it for a while to lose weight and do, then disappear for 1-2 years get fat again then come back.
When I grew up in the 80's this is what people looked like. People like this grew up on a diet of meat and 3 veg sandwiches and drank heavily (good amount of carbs) whenever they weren't working, didn't exercise for the sake of exercising, so clearly carbs aren't the only problem. They held decent weight and bodyshape well into their 30's and a very large amount never had any weight problem (though they don't look too good now in terms of health and body shape though).
Clearly something has changed with how many grotesquely fat people there are now and it's not too hard to figure out what those differences are(soy, seed oils more sugar, chemicals unfound in nature in the food etc).

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Corn syrup and vegetable shortening are two of the biggest culprits in the modern obesity epidemic.
Also low-grade, high-fat ground beef.

 

[Curse of the Sonichu]

No, high fat ground beef is favored among carnivore dieters. That female I posted before was eating half a stick of butter with her breakfast. Animal fat is your friend.
I don't really understand what makes corn syrup so bad compared to sugar cane. The fructose/glucose content is the same so maybe there's just some chemical or additive they use to make it that's the problem.