Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

DSP's Tax Lawyer said:
One day you can hit 100 pounds on the overhead press dude. I believe in you
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I can do more than that, but that's not the point.
1) It doesn't train the middle delt because it's literally not experiencing any tension. The mid delt doesn't function in that plain of movement. It trains the front delt
2) It puts so much stress on the shoulder hurdle that it's just not worthy, specially with the volume that OHPers tend to do. I get it, you wanna get better at it, you wanna get a higher number, but doing 3 sets at your 90% more than once a month is crazy. Doing 1 set like that once a month is pretty taxing already.
If you like doing the OHP it's fine, I just think it's too little bang for your buck. It's like the deadlift but worse
 
24nagging said:
I can do more than that, but that's not the point.
1) It doesn't train the middle delt because it's literally not experiencing any tension. The mid delt doesn't function in that plain of movement. It trains the front delt
2) It puts so much stress on the shoulder hurdle that it's just not worthy, specially with the volume that OHPers tend to do. I get it, you wanna get better at it, you wanna get a higher number, but doing 3 sets at your 90% more than once a month is crazy. Doing 1 set like that once a month is pretty taxing already.
If you like doing the OHP it's fine, I just think it's too little bang for your buck. It's like the deadlift but worse
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1) you can do another exercise
2) I don't do it more than once every 3-4 weeks.

Thanks for the imput
 
24nagging said:
I can do more than that, but that's not the point.
1) It doesn't train the middle delt because it's literally not experiencing any tension. The mid delt doesn't function in that plain of movement. It trains the front delt
2) It puts so much stress on the shoulder hurdle that it's just not worthy, specially with the volume that OHPers tend to do. I get it, you wanna get better at it, you wanna get a higher number, but doing 3 sets at your 90% more than once a month is crazy. Doing 1 set like that once a month is pretty taxing already.
If you like doing the OHP it's fine, I just think it's too little bang for your buck. It's like the deadlift but worse
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Are you taking crazy pills or am I? Because I get the impression you're a fan of the soyence.
I do 3 sets of 5-7 reps of that, twice a week. It's not a crazy amount of weight but it does get near failure. Though I am still new enough that I still learn new basic information every few weeks.
 
Legalize Asbestos said:
Are you taking crazy pills or am I? Because I get the impression you're a fan of the soyence.
I do 3 sets of 5-7 reps of that, twice a week. It's not a crazy amount of weight but it does get near failure. Though I am still new enough that I still learn new basic information every few weeks.
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you are
again, my point is that they are not worth it since they train front delt (which normally is already over trained), and unless you are a weightlifter or a strong man, it doesn't translate well to other movements
DSP's Tax Lawyer said:
1) you can do another exercise
2) I don't do it more than once every 3-4 weeks.

Thanks for the imput
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if you can do another exercise, why do OHP? Am against saying that it is a must do exercise like the squat, bench and deadlift (which they are not btw)
 
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Actually this reminds me. Whenever I do exercises that require moving my arms sideways near or above head-level (like in shoulder raises) I get this really weird unpleasant feeling in my shoulders. Like somethings grinding against something else in there almost. Am I not stretching/warming up enough? Kiwibros plz help.
I'm at a pretty beginner/intermediate level, have been lifting for 6 months with a months intemission at one point, but I've been fairly consistent with it for a while now. Idk if this info is relevant but I felt like it would help.
 
ThePozzedOutCritic said:
Actually this reminds me. Whenever I do exercises that require moving my arms sideways near or above head-level (like in shoulder raises) I get this really weird unpleasant feeling in my shoulders. Like somethings grinding against something else in there almost. Am I not stretching/warming up enough? Kiwibros plz help.
I'm at a pretty beginner/intermediate level, have been lifting for 6 months with a months intemission at one point, but I've been fairly consistent with it for a while now. Idk if this info is relevant but I felt like it would help.
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That's called shoulder impingement, this article was already posted but read it.
 
I don’t know nothing about science based lifting but I haven’t done a lateral raise with any dedicated consistency since I was in my 20s and my shoulders are the size of my 4-year-olds head from barbell OHP alone.
 
24nagging said:
no. Plus you are gay
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24nagging said:
it's also a colossal waste of time
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24nagging said:
you are gonna get your shoulders nuked bro
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24nagging said:
I can do more than that, but that's not the point.
1) It doesn't train the middle delt because it's literally not experiencing any tension. The mid delt doesn't function in that plain of movement. It trains the front delt
2) It puts so much stress on the shoulder hurdle that it's just not worthy, specially with the volume that OHPers tend to do. I get it, you wanna get better at it, you wanna get a higher number, but doing 3 sets at your 90% more than once a month is crazy. Doing 1 set like that once a month is pretty taxing already.
If you like doing the OHP it's fine, I just think it's too little bang for your buck. It's like the deadlift but worse
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24nagging said:
you are [taking crazy pills]
again, my point is that they are not worth it since they train front delt (which normally is already over trained), and unless you are a weightlifter or a strong man, it doesn't translate well to other movements

if you can do another exercise, why do OHP? Am against saying that it is a must do exercise like the squat, bench and deadlift (which they are not btw)
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24nagging said:
why train the front delt?!
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y'all some hating ass niggas 🤦‍♀️
 
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