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[Basic Blond Boy]

4chan recently leaked a Sandy Cheeks movie

https://litter.catbox.moe/5um332.pdf

https://litter.catbox.moe/dt1qw3.pdf

 

[thegooddoctor]

I'm not where else to put this so I'll put it here for posterity. Some madman on /co/ leaked a bunch of stuff hot stuff about a Fairly Oddparents reboot in the works. The Leak includes a pitch bible, a fully drafted script for episode 1, and some sort of test clip of animation for the new art style.

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All of it seems legit since the jannies were quick to delete the thread and remove any download links. Viacom are a heavily litigious corporation so I don't doubt they would have the 4chan mods act on their behest.

Please just let it die, we already have an excess of Fairly odd parents out the ass we don't need any more of this, but at least the art design still looks a little more appealing than the CGI versions in the live action remake, Butch hartmans characters are notoriously uncanny to render in 3D as seen in the live action films with Drake bell and The Jimmy Timmy Power Hour. I still think it looks better than those even if the hybrid is somewhat off-putting.

For some reason I can't quote you. But if that's the case than animation is dead!!! And we are in hell now.

Its not dead, but we are living in a very creatively bankrupt era rivalling the 1980s, all new cartoons seemingly have to be attached to some kind of franchise in a similar way to that period where they were mainly just mass marketed to sell toys, now its not just that but to simply cater to women, children, beta males and the SJW crowd. Like many others have said here the reason why more people are flocking to anime because regardless of how you feel about the social stigma with it, anime is at least not weighed down by woke politics and censors curving and edging its every story and character dynamic.They don't give a fuck about the excesses of violence and sexuality and are still interested in telling stories and characters first above any kind of greater moral approach that so many Western children's cartoons and even adult animated comedies are doing now.

Say what you want about the actual quality of anime as a medium, at the very least anime genuinely revels in some quite based and gruesome content that breaks down cultural barriers and isn't afraid to shock and scare even if its triggering and offensive to soft hearted SJW Type crowd. There a few exceptions but it's so much rarer in anime than the creatively barren hellscape that is western media now.

As for the cal-arts style, it also seems to be dictated by current assembly-line bullshit. I got neg rated for it earlier, but it seems that the disgusting blob art style may be for cost cutting and time saving, or at least, that is what the Taxi-man claims when speaking to his connections. Blobs are apparently easier to animate, so artists go lazy to meet the deadlines of corporate, which, more than likely can’t give two shits anymore. This is really apparent in reboots, as Professor Utonium lost edges in the PPG reboot, and so did Joan in Clone High. Don’t know what deadlines and budgets were like back in the day, but they seem to just be getting progressively worse unless you are something like Puss In Boots.

As for why the industry is getting so budgeted, it’s because Bay-Formers and the MCU. These modern shit brands are basically giant cartoons, but they look real, so people take to them more seriously. As such, the need for animation has dwindled because now the toons can look real.

The Calarts style in of itself isn't the issue its just that its used too excessively for almost every new series thats running nowadays. Having characters with soft and rounded features isn't necessarily a terrible design in of itself, considering how In the 2000s a large proportion of animated kids shows from cartoon network and a lot of Canadian animation used the UPN blocky and geometric look with sharp edges its a natural evolution into the 2010's and I think too many people complain about it.

What is a far uglier artstyle I'll admit is the fusion of calarts and seemingly claymation style look we are seeing with the latest batch of Disney products and so many modern CGI series. This incredibly ug;y style of weird thin limbs, overly exaggerated and pointy features don't look pleasant in the slightest because instead of being stylish or having a unique surrealism to it they all juxtapose the basic elements of claymation characters and try to fuse it with Calarts and strange anime-esque designs, creating some very uncanny and un appealing designs that don’t jar with anything. It’s sad that this is the direction animation is taking but I blame nepotism and the lack of money being thrown into new talent as well as apathy.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

As an additional news post from /co/, it seems that American Dad may be ending soon given all the Hulu drama. Hopefully the next season is good and American Dad can be one of the few adult cartoons to go out on a high note like KOTH, once, had.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Shaun the Sheep Movie is still a wonderful, though underrated, movie that I recommend everyone to watch after reading this post on this thread.

 

[TVB]

As an additional news post from /co/, it seems that American Dad may be ending soon given all the Hulu drama. Hopefully the next season is good and American Dad can be one of the few adult cartoons to go out on a high note like KOTH, once, had.

We have a thread on it if you wanna crosspost.

 

[OmnipotentStupidity]

View attachment 48731584chan recently leaked a Sandy Cheeks movie

https://litter.catbox.moe/5um332.pdf

https://litter.catbox.moe/dt1qw3.pdf

And it's gone. Along with every other screenshot in the thread.
Viacom's been having all their shit leak everywhere recently Jesus Christ

 

[Toxinophile]

4chan recently leaked a Sandy Cheeks movie
[Bunch of expired links]

My dude Litterbox links are only meant to last 3 days at best to as little as only 1 hour before they expire.

I hope you had the foresight to download those pdfs first so you can directly upload them later onto the site. Nulls always saying we gotta do our due diligence. You never know if someone is gonna start deleting shit without warning.

And it's gone. Along with every other screenshot in the thread.
Viacom's been having all their shit leak everywhere recently Jesus Christ

Desuarchive still have all the screenshots available. It all seems to confirm the prior leaks that the Movie is about Sandy meeting her Squirrel Family and Spongebob and the gang going to Texas.

weird to see only early storyboard drafts when the movie is supposed to be coming this year.

 

[skykiii]

So hey, I'm thinking of submitting this to some website for brownie points, but see if this comes off as authentic enough:

Spoiler: How TMNT is racist

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles might just be the most white supremacist cartoon in existence.

First off, let's look at the Turtles themselves. None of them are black. Weirdly the toy mold of Donatello shows him with dark scales but in the cartoon he's just as green as the rest of them. Whitewashing maybe?

These four turtles are trained by a ninja master named Splinter, who is really Hamato Yoshi--a white American name if ever I've heard one. Yoshi is from Japan, which is of course famous for supporting white supremacy and teaching people that girls can be likable, which is of course problematic. Also can we talk about how the whole "ninja" thing is cultural appropriation?

April O'neal is white, so white she even wears a yellow jumpsuit to show how white she is. Worse is her best friend and fellow Channel 6 employee Irma, who is an example of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl trope. Both girls are shown getting food from the fridge at points, making them both examples of the sexist Women in Refridgerators trope. Thanks to this show, many young men grew up thinking they were owed a female reporter telling the world how awesome they are.

April's boss at Channel 6 is a fat American named Burne, a clear reference to the Berne Convention which this show violates. April and Irma also sometimes cross paths with another employee named Vernon, who is drawn with a large nose and a constant desire to make it big in the News world, making him a standaard Jewish stereotype.

Naturally, the only minorities are the bad guys.

The Shredder is actually Oroko Saki, a Japanese man and thus, not white. He runs the Foot Clan, a clear reference to Asians being stepped on by white people so they can get ahead.

Shredder works with an alien called Krang. Now at first it may seem like Krang is white, since he's pink just like white brains and he forces Shredder to build him a fat American white person body, but as we all know aliens are stand-ins for minorities in every work of fiction ever, so what this really represents is a minority wishing he were a white man and trying hard to fit in to Mighty Whitey culture, but he never quite succeeds.

Also of note are Shredder's most recurring henchmen, Bebop and Rocksteady. Bebop is actually a black man and--in an eye-rolling display of insensitivity--is shown to be a gang member. Even more shocking, he later undergoes a transformation into a wart-hog man, and in this form he has decidedly caucasian-looking fur. Like Krang, he is a black man forced to change to fit in with a white-dominated society.

Rocksteady is even worse. He is a white man who becomes a gray (and thus black) rhinoceros-man, demonstrating white culture's tendency to co-opt lesser cultures but not being willing to go all the way (hence gray instead of black), demonstrating the white man's boorish tendency to want to maintain their own identity.

Lastly, at many points the phrase "trump card" is used. It is of course impossible for this to be anything other than a reference to Donald Trump, making it obvious whose side the writers are on.

This concludes my report on the most reprehensible cartoon ever put to broadcast. I just hope lessons were learned from this travesty.

 

[TVB]

Shaun the Sheep Movie is still a wonderful, though underrated, movie that I recommend everyone to watch after reading this post on this thread.

It's one of the best movies of 2015 (and not just animated either), and I'm still pissed at the Oscars that it never won Best Animated Feature.

 

[A Grey Cat]

About that genderspecial that's gonna be in the new fop...how bad have things gotten when you can't tell if a character was made for a reboot specifically to spite and or piss of the original creator who would never do such a thing. Or if it's just because that's how fucked up the creative process has become?

we are living in a very creatively bankrupt era rivalling the 1980s, all new cartoons seemingly have to be attached to some kind of franchise in a similar way to that period where they were mainly just mass marketed to sell toys,

True but really as it's been said here before, the worst most insipid 22 minute toy commercials of yesteryear look almost quaint in comparison to as you put it.

to simply cater to women, children, beta males and the SJW crowd.

 

[TVB]

Its not dead, but we are living in a very creatively bankrupt era rivalling the 1980s, all new cartoons seemingly have to be attached to some kind of franchise in a similar way to that period where they were mainly just mass marketed to sell toys, now its not just that but to simply cater to women, children, beta males and the SJW crowd.

The 2010s and 2020s era of animation is very comparable to 70s and 80s, and not just in animation but almost the entire entertainment industry. Things will hopefully pick up later on like with evolution itself, but only time will tell.

 

[skykiii]

I'm always a little weirded out when I see people say the 1980s was a creatively bankrupt era. Like fuck no it wasn't, what the hell are you smoking? Every IP in the 1980s was a new thing that didn't exist before, that's way more creative than today where everything is a revival of something.

God, even on KF the revisionist history about the 1980s has found footing.

 

[TVB]

I'm always a little weirded out when I see people say the 1980s was a creatively bankrupt era. Like fuck no it wasn't, what the hell are you smoking? Every IP in the 1980s was a new thing that didn't exist before, that's way more creative than today where everything is a revival of something.

God, even on KF the revisionist history about the 1980s has found footing.

Well again, both 2020s (so far) and 1980s are both the awkward periods. 2020s can see the light at the end of tunnel for the media industry just like the 1980s.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I'm always a little weirded out when I see people say the 1980s was a creatively bankrupt era. Like fuck no it wasn't, what the hell are you smoking? Every IP in the 1980s was a new thing that didn't exist before, that's way more creative than today where everything is a revival of something.

God, even on KF the revisionist history about the 1980s has found footing.

It's mainly because it was super-duper-obvious-yo that all the '80s IPs were meant to just sell toys. Thing is, though, while that part is true, there were enough people on the team that actually gave enough of a damn to try and make the best of it by making entertainment entertaining. They weren't pushing political ideologies (usually) onto impressionable kids, they just wanted to give them a good time for a few hours after school because school sucks.

We're too serious of a people nowadays to even entertain the notion of entertaining kids for the sake of entertainment. It's all about conditioning them.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Marks chiming in about the supposed fairly oddparents reboot.

In other news. Rewatching a let's play of nicktoons unite as background noise made me realize just how far this company has fallen.

Things will hopefully pick up later on like with evolution itself, but only time will tell.

2020s can see the light at the end of tunnel for the media industry

I wish I could share optimism tvb, maybe it will turn out that way bit I learned along time ago to never ever get your hopes up to high. It'll only hurt the worse if they fall

 

[TVB]

Marks chiming in about the supposed fairly oddparents reboot.

In other news. Rewatching a let's play of nicktoons unite as background noise made me realize just how far this company has fallen.



I wish I could share optimism tvb, maybe it will turn out that way bit I learned along time ago to never ever get your hopes up to high. It'll only hurt the worse if they fall

>LSMark
No thank you.

But remember, it's a matter of time whether the entertainment industry does change itself for the better or for the worst. It always happens every three or four decades.

 

[A Grey Cat]

>LSMark
No thank you.

But remember, it's a matter of time whether the entertainment industry does change itself for the better or for the worst. It always happens every three or four decades.

hes not THAT much a cow (yet) to get a thread or even a blip in the internet famous boards. S'why I post his content here. unless something big drops on par with a nearly naked matt burnett or lewis lovehaug's dead gay muppet gangbang (yes really) He's Kosher, but not Halal.

 

[Coolio55]

In other news. Rewatching a let's play of nicktoons unite as background noise made me realize just how far this company has fallen.

Funny you mention that game. I was just listening to the soundtrack of the GBA version. (Done by Climax who had a history of good music on the GBA. Did a little research for this post to see who was responsible ...turns out that it's fucking 4mat!)

Spoiler

 

[anustart76]

4chan recently leaked a Sandy Cheeks movie

God fucking damn it, they are determined to run SpongeBob into the ground, aren't they?

 

[A Grey Cat]

Funny you mention that game. I was just listening to the soundtrack of the GBA version. (Done by Climax who had a history of good music on the GBA. Did a little research for this post to see who was responsible ...turns out that it's fucking 4mat!)

Spoiler

looking back i really miss that era of nick. You had that awkward transition from golden age to silver age. the shows in general on the network ranged from good to ok and few were just....why? But really the company was stilling willing to experiment with stuff that actually was worth time and effort.

The closest we have to it today as maybe the kart racer and all star brawl games, and even then its not the same as unite. Which told a full on story that tied everything together. The only nick based series to still have that honor is the spongebob games.


Edit: I found a super cut of all the Unite games cutscenes and while it's no subspace emmisary from brawl (often said to be the cloeset we ever got to a full on nintendo movie prior to illiminations mario however that ends up turning out.) I can see this series with a few tweaks and changes to shift the medium from video game to a full on special. The only problem would be getting the animation styles to blend right. As it was said in regaurds to FOP the Hartman style just...doesn't work in 3D (as seen in the jimmy timmy power hour trilogy)