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would Russian/Soviet Cartoons count in this thread, but anyhow or anyway, a good chunk of the Soviet Cartoons are great such as Contact
 
Trilby said:
Heard a lot about this one. Apparently Cosgrove Hall developed a pilot for Nick's "Nicktoon" initiative that didn't get greenlit.
https://lostmediawiki.com/The_Crowv...ially_found_Nickelodeon_animated_pilot;_1990)
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Cosgrove Hall had a good relationship with Nickelodeon after the success with Danger Mouse, one of the few shows to air in the pre-splat days to get much traction, and ran it into the 90s. Hence why they took part in Count Duckula, which was a spin-off of Danger Mouse.

Their failure with the Nicktoons pilots seems to be where the relationship fell apart, though. CH made two pilots for Nick: Trash and the above-mentioned Crowville Chronicles. Both were rejected by test audiences (though not as badly as another pilot, The Weasel Patrol, which was apparently so shit that one of the kids in that test audience said he'd rather watch a blank screen), and once Danger Mouse and Duckula ended, so too did CH on Nickelodeon (at least in America, they did work with the international incarnation a few more times), so Americans never got Avenger Penguins, Victor and Hugo, or the like.
 
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KingLiberty76 said:
would Russian/Soviet Cartoons count in this thread, but anyhow or anyway, a good chunk of the Soviet Cartoons are great such as Contact
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And on a related note
Fat Tub of Lard said:
Their failure with the Nicktoons pilots seems to be where the relationship fell apart, though. CH made two pilots for Nick: Trash and the above-mentioned Crowville Chronicles. Both were rejected by test audiences (though not as badly as another pilot, The Weasel Patrol, which was apparently so shit that one of the kids in that test audience said he'd rather watch a blank screen), and once Danger Mouse and Duckula ended, so too did CH on Nickelodeon (at least in America, they did work with the international incarnation a few more times), so Americans never got Avenger Penguins, Victor and Hugo, or the like.
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They also rejected the Thunder Lizards pilot due to it being way too child-like than either Rugrats, Ren & Stimpy or Doug, but they appeared in the bumpers during the early-90s. The same happened with Big Beast Quartet, having bumpers of their own, but not picked up for a full series due to test screenings being bored.
 
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Fat Tub of Lard said:
Cosgrove Hall had a good relationship with Nickelodeon after the success with Danger Mouse, one of the few shows to air in the pre-splat days to get much traction, and ran it into the 90s. Hence why they took part in Count Duckula, which was a spin-off of Danger Mouse.

Their failure with the Nicktoons pilots seems to be where the relationship fell apart, though. CH made two pilots for Nick: Trash and the above-mentioned Crowville Chronicles. Both were rejected by test audiences (though not as badly as another pilot, The Weasel Patrol, which was apparently so shit that one of the kids in that test audience said he'd rather watch a blank screen), and once Danger Mouse and Duckula ended, so too did CH on Nickelodeon (at least in America, they did work with the international incarnation a few more times), so Americans never got Avenger Penguins, Victor and Hugo, or the like.
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Yep, the American furs missed out on "Fantomcat"...
 
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The site Kiss cartoon is holding up so far. (yes i know true pirates sail the torrents and all that) One thing I love about the site is the filter feature. I can look up every western cartoon released in any given year and its the closest we have to time travel...or Memory VR pods.

Looking up every cartoon released in 1995, damn season three of Rocko's modern life, seasons 3 and 4 of x-men, season 2 of reboot. A life time that has long since come and gone, never to be seen again only in echoes and records.
 
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A Grey Cat said:
reboot
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Ah, ReBoot. One of the earliest modern cartoons to ever do "serialization".....and it still does it better than today's dreck.

SPOILER: This scene in particular still gives me chills, even over a decade later.....
 
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Vyse Inglebard said:
Ah, ReBoot. One of the earliest modern cartoons to ever do "serialization".....and it still does it better than today's dreck.

SPOILER: This scene in particular still gives me chills, even over a decade later.....
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That's tony jay for you he was the villian voice for the decade, megabyte, frollo hell even that...mighty ducks cartoon as...wtf as it was, it had him and tim curry both playing rival vilians in it. Also funny how the season from 95 is the second one, often considered the point where reboot really took off.
 
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Vyse Inglebard said:
Fun fact: Tony Jay initially couldn't do the final note of the song Hellfire, and requested that it be lowered, but Alan Menken said no. So, he had to go take vocal lessons in order to hit it and hold it.
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27 years..and it still gives me chills down to the bone. To go from An old man losing his last bit of moral high ground to....strange world, turning red, zootopia 2....Ugh I almost wish i hadn't picked this week to get on the wagon.
 
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Vyse Inglebard said:
Fun fact: Tony Jay initially couldn't do the final note of the song Hellfire, and requested that it be lowered, but Alan Menken said no. So, he had to go take vocal lessons in order to hit it and hold it.
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Jesus fucking christ I wish newer animation studios had this dedication to form
Why is it that all good things must end eventually
whyyyyyyy :'(
 
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Vyse Inglebard said:
Fun fact: Tony Jay initially couldn't do the final note of the song Hellfire, and requested that it be lowered, but Alan Menken said no. So, he had to go take vocal lessons in order to hit it and hold it.
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Why'd you have to get the clip with the lower pitch, goddamn you.

(That is a fun fact, though. Makes sense, too, since it sounds like he was struggling to hold it. Tom Hulce isn't much of a singer, either, but dammit he was so passionate during "Out There".)
 
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Vyse Inglebard said:
Ah, ReBoot. One of the earliest modern cartoons to ever do "serialization".....and it still does it better than today's dreck.

SPOILER: This scene in particular still gives me chills, even over a decade later.....
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ReBoot had only one good season and that was the first season. Went on longer than it should have.
 
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Quijibo69 said:
ReBoot had only one good season and that was the first season. Went on longer than it should have.
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I freely admit not everything from the "good ole days," was all THAT good. There were indeed total duds in some cases that no amount of time or hindsight can ever make look good in comparison. I've seen them going year by year; Hammer man, wish kids, Kid n play (tas) mega babies. The rose glasses can only filter so much before no matter what a turd is still a turd.
 
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