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I completely understand the other three but Total Drama? For stupid ship drama and inserting poorly disguised fetish bait in kid's shows?
Unlike the other three, Total Drama was filled with canon ships and lots of teen romance stuff. And as for fetishes...in the daycare spinoff, there's literally an episode about a fairy that sniffs the farts of the kid characters and practically has an orgasm when he does it. I really, really wish I was kidding. The new season also had an entire episode that was basically a twenty minute fart joke.
 
When I was a kid the romance in all these shows was always the worst part. I just didn't care about any of it, I wanted to see what Slade's next master plan was or which contestant was going to get voted out next. I'd love to see a kid's show with no romance at all.
 
I completely understand the other three but Total Drama? For stupid ship drama and inserting poorly disguised fetish bait in kid's shows?
Unlike the other three, Total Drama was filled with canon ships and lots of teen romance stuff. And as for fetishes...in the daycare spinoff, there's literally an episode about a fairy that sniffs the farts of the kid characters and practically has an orgasm when he does it. I really, really wish I was kidding. The new season also had an entire episode that was basically a twenty minute fart joke.
Total Drama was also the show that made serialized series profitable in CN's eyes. Much of the 2010s series likely would not have happened without it. It was a serialized comedy, which was not normal as serialization was only really ever for used action, and very loosely at that. It also destroyed much of CN's censorship, allowing for shows like Regular Show to cuss later on.
 
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Unrelated but apparently Today there's a block coming from Cartoon Network called "Checkered Past" which airs the CN city and Cartoon Cartoon era cartoons like Billy and Mandy and Ed Edd n Eddy

Going off the promos this sounds amazing, even if I can't catch it on tv I want to follow and support it. It's amazing to me that Cartoon Network is giving a voice the artists and fans that grew up watching these shows.
love how the first recomended video after this ends is a cartoon spergs opinion on why this means CN has no future. Not what Warner had in mind i take it.
 
Total Drama was also the show that made serialized series profitable in CN's eyes. Much of the 2010s series likely would not have happened without it doing that. It also was a serialized comedy, which was not normal as serialization was only really ever for used action, and very loosely at that. It also destroyed much of CN's censorship, allowing for shows like Regular Show to cuss later on.
I noticed they censored Regular Show on Max when I was rewatching season one recently. They changed "you pissed me off" to "you tee'd me off." They may have changed it at some earlier point, but it annoyed me.
 
When I was a kid the romance in all these shows was always the worst part. I just didn't care about any of it, I wanted to see what Slade's next master plan was or which contestant was going to get voted out next. I'd love to see a kid's show with no romance at all.
Most cartoons from both the 90s and 2000s deal with romance bullshit. I do recall not caring about Angry Beavers' storyline with Norbert and Treeflower.
 
Total Drama was also the show that made serialized series profitable in CN's eyes. Much of the 2010s series likely would not have happened without it doing that. It was a serialized comedy, which was not normal as serialization was only really ever for used action, and very loosely at that. It also destroyed much of CN's censorship, allowing for shows like Regular Show to cuss later on.
Funny how it took a show they didn't even make to do that. And I'm glad it made them looser with censorship, especially since the way they toned down the first season of Total Drama is just hard to watch.
 
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Funny how it took a show they didn't even make to do that. And I'm glad it made them looser with censorship, especially since the way they toned down the first season of Total Drama is just hard to watch.
Total Drama World Tour > Island > Action

EDIT: Retracting
 
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Total Drama Action > Island

EDIT: I need to reiterate here, I love Island a lot. But Action, at least for me, is a lot funnier. So react to me in a polarizing way all you want, but I still love Action a lot.
For me, Action is the oddly forgettable middle child of the original series. I think back to Island and World Tour and remember how much I like them, but then I remember there was that third season sandwiched between them. For some reason I just have a tough time remembering Action or what goes on in it, maybe because aside from Gwen and Trent breaking up, so little carries over to World Tour. I don't dislike Action either, even if Courtney really tried to ruin the season, it just sorts of blends into the background for me.
 
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For me, Action is the oddly forgettable middle child of the original series. I think back to Island and World Tour and remember how much I like them, but then I remember there was that third season sandwiched between them. For some reason I just have a tough time remembering Action or what goes on in it, maybe because aside from Gwen and Trent breaking up, so little carries over to World Tour. I don't dislike Action either, even if Courtney really tried to ruin the season, it just sorts of blends into the background for me.
Season 2 is mostly a retread and where character derailment begins, hence why it is not as liked. The Duncan cheating arc began here, which brought down every character involved as Gwen became an asshole, Trent became unnecessarily weird, Courtney an even bigger bitch and Duncan a wannabe bad boy. If I am not mistaken, no one on the writing staff wanted Duncan and Gwen to be a couple, but corporate forced it as they saw two goth characters and went from there. This would explain why that plot line was so poorly handled.
The season also made Leshawna overbearing and Owen a jerk as he was some spy for plant for Chris or something.
Other issues with season 2 came from the lack of a clear antagonist or protagonists. The first half wanted Justin to be the new Heather, but he sucks, so that role went to Courtney half-way through. Neither one could compare to Heather or Alejandro. As for protags, Gwen and Owen were great in Island, while season 2 had Duncan and Beth, with only one of the two feeling like they deserved a finalist position.

The good of season 2 was that it started Heather’s redemption, gave DJ a fun relationship with Chef. The movie gimmick was also interesting. Otherwise, it feels like a poor version of season 1 that left no developments outside of Gwuncan, hence why it seems so insignificant.
 
Season 2 is mostly a retread and where character derailment begins, hence why it is not as liked. The Duncan cheating arc began here, which brought down every character involved as Gwen became an asshole, Trent became unnecessarily weird, Courtney an even bigger bitch and Duncan a wannabe bad boy. If I am not mistaken, no one on the writing staff wanted Duncan and Gwen to be a couple, but corporate forced it as they saw two goth characters and went from there. This would explain why that plot line was so poorly handled.
The season also made Leshawna overbearing and Owen a jerk as he was some spy for plant for Chris or something.
Other issues with season 2 came from the lack of a clear antagonist or protagonists. The first half wanted Justin to be the new Heather, but he sucks, so that role went to Courtney half-way through. Neither one could compare to Heather or Alejandro. As for protags, Gwen and Owen were great in Island, while season 2 had Duncan and Beth, with only one of the two feeling like they deserved a finalist position.

The good of season 2 was that it started Heather’s redemption, gave DJ a fun relationship with Chef. The movie gimmick was also interesting. Otherwise, it feels like a poor version of season 1 that left no developments outside of Gwuncan, hence why it seems so insignificant.
I can't even fathom what they were thinking with Trent. I heard that the writers were pressured to break him and Gwen up because it was realistic for a relationship like theirs (two teens meeting on a reality show) not to last. If they absolutely had to do that, making Trent sperg out and be obsessed with the number nine was the worst way to go about it, and the poor guy never got compete again and redeem himself.

I actually liked Justin as a villain. He was basically nothing in the first season, so they could pretty much do whatever they wanted with him. While he wasn't smart, I liked his gimmick of using his looks and charm to get what he wanted, and the writers clearly did too since Alejandro is literally Justin but hotter and smarter. Makes me wonder why they didn't just make Justin a bit more competent or his looks more hypnotizing. And Courtney fucking sucked as an antagonist, just popping in halfway through the season with a nasty gimmick. Like it's sure unique she's using legal threats to get an upper hand, but it's still kind of dull. She's basically just a nasty bitch to everyone, but where Heather strategized, Courtney just threatened to sue to the show if she was voted out or didn't get an unfair advantage. It basically boiled down to her having a temper tantrum whenever she didn't get her way. She also had a really lame sendoff too, she was just voted off, and that was it. Don't know what I dislike more, underwhelming villain defeats like Courtney and Julia or unusually cruel ones like Alejandro or Scott.

And yeah, Beth really blended into the background until it was decided she was going to be a finalist. Except the few times she suddenly had good athletic abilities, but only for brief periods. I don't mind Duncan winning, it just made his placement in World Tour stupid because they'd never let a contestant be a finalist twice, so he was just elimination fodder by the end.

The movie gimmick was pretty fun, yeah, which really makes me surprised at how much I forget the season because it had some good challenges and ideas.
 
And Courtney fucking sucked as an antagonist, just popping in halfway through the season with a nasty gimmick. Like it's sure unique she's using legal threats to get an upper hand, but it's still kind of dull.
I will give them this, it was good continuity if nothing else. Courtney’s elimination in Island was 100% bullshit thanks to Harold tampering the results to get back at Duncan. Her taking legal action to avoid that kind of tampering was a smart character progression. The issue is that it gets dull and her being caught up in the love triangle drags her down hard.
 
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I will give them this, it was good continuity if nothing else. Courtney’s elimination in Island was 100% bullshit thanks to Harold tampering the results to get back at Duncan. Her taking legal action to avoid that kind of tampering was a smart character progression. The issue is that it gets dull and her being caught up in the love triangle drags her down hard.
Oh, it made sense, I just still don't like it. Not like she was the only one to get eliminated unfairly, just look at poor Leshawna. Like I said, the gimmick was unique, but it also let Courtney's entire villainous nature boiling down tot being a brat and holding her phone up threateningly at Chris when she doesn't get her way.
 
I'd say Total Drama Action isn't that bad from what I remember, but I DON'T remember it, it was definitely the most forgettable season of the show. It kinda just feels like an expansion of the first season, except the challenges happen to be movie-themed, which wasn't very different because the first season already had a movie-themed challenge with the fake serial killer that got interrupted by a real serial killer.
All I remember are the spy episode, and Beth managing to make it to the final 2.
 
I noticed they censored Regular Show on Max when I was rewatching season one recently. They changed "you pissed me off" to "you tee'd me off." They may have changed it at some earlier point, but it annoyed me.

CN censored it to "you ticked me off" some point after the original broadcast. It's ironic that they were skewing towards edgier content at the time in 2010 then pussied out later on.
 
lmao the only thing I remember about Action was the brown brown-haired girl being confusing (i can't even remember her name, I never liked her and only disliked her more as time went on) and being really upset that Beth got to the finale because it felt like a cheap asspull
It's definitely the forgotten middle child of the 3 actually-watchable seasons
 
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I'd say Total Drama Action isn't that bad from what I remember, but I DON'T remember it, it was definitely the most forgettable season of the show. It kinda just feels like an expansion of the first season, except the challenges happen to be movie-themed, which wasn't very different because the first season already had a movie-themed challenge with the fake serial killer that got interrupted by a real serial killer.
All I remember are the spy episode, and Beth managing to make it to the final 2.
At least it managed to come out in time for Duncan calling Chef a "transgender troll" which is a literal actual quote.
 
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