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Good thing we aren't on the chans then.

Here at the extremely refined farms, everyone knows the correct opinion is that he fumbled the ending but that it was otherwise a good go. (It should have been every friendship and ally Jack had formed over the decades of fighting Aku being what won the day - rather than none of them contributing much of anything to the final battle. And of course, it was stupid to lose the girl in the end.)
Same can be said for primal and unicorn if that show doesn’t get a season 2
 
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Good thing we aren't on the chans then.
Okay, fine, I'll give my real opinions.

I really liked season 1 of Primal. Beautifully animated, thrilling, and really managed to capture the exact kind of vibe people talk about Samurai Jack having whenever they forget the more talkative episodes of Jack exist. No issues with it.
Season 2 has enough flaws that I can't really call it anything higher than "good". The first half is a bunch of great drama with that one episode Fang finds a mate and the whole Viking clan two-parter, the Primal Theory episode is an amusing oneshot, and it's hilarious that this show was allowed to depict a T-rex giving birth. But the Colossaeus should have only lasted two episodes instead of three, the stuff about the Viking chief and his son wanting vengeance isn't nearly as interesting as the show thinks it is aside from the climax (maybe if he intersected with the third Colossaeus episode it would've improved both storylines), and the last episode is just a mess - the fight with the shapeshifting rock monster is bizarrely uncreative (Spear really couldn't think of anything more clever to fight a flaming rock man than "climb to the highest point of a mountain and tackle him off it"?) and ends anti-climactically, and the burn victim sex just doesn't sit right with me for whatever reason. Probably would've been better served with either more time dedicated to this finale (so get rid of one of the Colossaeus episodes or Primal Theory), or just getting rid of the Viking chief in the same episode his son died.
 
Okay, fine, I'll give my real opinions.

I really liked season 1 of Primal. Beautifully animated, thrilling, and really managed to capture the exact kind of vibe people talk about Samurai Jack having whenever they forget the more talkative episodes of Jack exist. No issues with it.
Season 2 has enough flaws that I can't really call it anything higher than "good". The first half is a bunch of great drama with that one episode Fang finds a mate and the whole Viking clan two-parter, the Primal Theory episode is an amusing oneshot, and it's hilarious that this show was allowed to depict a T-rex giving birth. But the Colossaeus should have only lasted two episodes instead of three, the stuff about the Viking chief and his son wanting vengeance isn't nearly as interesting as the show thinks it is aside from the climax (maybe if he intersected with the third Colossaeus episode it would've improved both storylines), and the last episode is just a mess - the fight with the shapeshifting rock monster is bizarrely uncreative (Spear really couldn't think of anything more clever to fight a flaming rock man than "climb to the highest point of a mountain and tackle him off it"?) and ends anti-climactically, and the burn victim sex just doesn't sit right with me for whatever reason. Probably would've been better served with either more time dedicated to this finale (so get rid of one of the Colossaeus episodes or Primal Theory), or just getting rid of the Viking chief in the same episode his son died.
The Plague of Madness episode was what really got to me. As generic as the zombie genre already had been, that one episode managed to capture what makes zombies terrifying in the first place.
 
Some screenshots from "Fixed" were posted on Twitter, and "Animation Twitter" posters immediately started clutching their pearls because they were getting some "John K vibes" from it because that's something they say about any sort of remotely expressive animation, they've spent so much time mooning over beanmouth children's shows and diet-Anime cartoons that anything that's a little cartoony has them going. "erm, getting some Ren & Stimpy vibes from this, kinda problematic" because they know nothing about animation or it's history.

It's hard to say who holds animation in greater contempt - Hollywood executives, or Animation Fandom that loudly trumpet about how "Animation Is Cinema!" but mostly focuses on mediocre kid's shows and the occasional bland cartoon show from the Aughts they champion like it's a forgotten gem for a couple of months before they get bored and move on to the next one.
Really fucking interesting everytime they see a "John K" artstyle they go "Yikes... pedo vibes anyone?" When anyone that literally draws artstyles like below, chances are they're a pedo faggot themselves. But you don't hear Xitter faggots have this kind of reaction to it.
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Really makes you think.
 
Please no. (I'm not even a Metal Gear fan, I just don't want this guy touching any more properties.)
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But i wouldn't be surprised if he said yes to Shankar if he still had MGS under his control, considering who he hangs out with nowadays.
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Some screenshots from "Fixed" were posted on Twitter, and "Animation Twitter" posters immediately started clutching their pearls because they were getting some "John K vibes" from it because that's something they say about any sort of remotely expressive animation, they've spent so much time mooning over beanmouth children's shows and diet-Anime cartoons that anything that's a little cartoony has them going. "erm, getting some Ren & Stimpy vibes from this, kinda problematic" because they know nothing about animation or it's history
Why are there no screenshots of it, that would have been quite a sight :(
 
Please no. (I'm not even a Metal Gear fan, I just don't want this guy touching any more properties.)
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Japan: has a popular and still mostly well made video game series.

Adi shankar: Put a chick with a dick in it and make it lame and gay!

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But i wouldn't be surprised if he said yes to Shankar if he still had MGS under his control, considering who he hangs out with nowadays.

Back in the 2000s, there were articles about how Uwe Boll was gonna make an MGS movie and Kojima shot it down very hard, then Boll said he got the script from a person who claimed to be from Konami.
 
Some screenshots from "Fixed" were posted on Twitter, and "Animation Twitter" posters immediately started clutching their pearls because they were getting some "John K vibes" from it because that's something they say about any sort of remotely expressive animation, they've spent so much time mooning over beanmouth children's shows and diet-Anime cartoons that anything that's a little cartoony has them going. "erm, getting some Ren & Stimpy vibes from this, kinda problematic" because they know nothing about animation or it's history.
At this point, I'm just assuming much of it is kids/mankids looking for asspats from their peers. I doubt they truly believe in any of the shit they're saying.

In regards to the 'Fixed' film, personally I think looks mediocre (reminds me of that crappy 'Housebroken' (?) show). Another waste of Genndy's (visual) talents...
 
Back in the 2000s, there were articles about how Uwe Boll was gonna make an MGS movie and Kojima shot it down very hard, then Boll said he got the script from a person who claimed to be from Konami.
How bad have things gotten. That I almost miss boll and would prefer him over shankable poo man anyway? Yeah his movies were shlock but they almost feel like he deliberately made them that way to troll people. At least Boll knew he was making crap and German tax/filmmaking laws would protect his ass from any losses if the stuff he made bombed.


Unlike shankar who think he's making "profound " and "poignant " statements about the post 9/11 to post trump world. When in reality he's making reddit teir "I hate religion and people who believe in it are ignorant morons" bullshit that's also way behind the times. If his dmc take is anything to go on.
 
How bad have things gotten. That I almost miss boll and would prefer him over shankable poo man anyway? Yeah his movies were shlock but they almost feel like he deliberately made them that way to troll people. At least Boll knew he was making crap and German tax/filmmaking laws would protect his ass from any losses if the stuff he made bombed.
plus, his adaptation of Postal is genuinely good and perfectly captures the spirit of the games
 
"erm, getting some Ren & Stimpy vibes from this, kinda problematic"
Even if someone was totally 100% just aping John K's style, who gives a shit? Beyond thr fact he was like an evolution of early golden age animation shit, just because someone uses a style or is influenced by someone it's not like the cartoon itself is capable of going and grooming then raping some teenager or whatever it was he did. People are so retarded.

They act like it's illegal to have any sort of artistic influence from someone who's work is something but personally is a piece of shit.
 
I really liked season 1 of Primal. Beautifully animated, thrilling, and really managed to capture the exact kind of vibe people talk about Samurai Jack having whenever they forget the more talkative episodes of Jack exist. No issues with it.
Season 2 has enough flaws that I can't really call it anything higher than "good". The first half is a bunch of great drama with that one episode Fang finds a mate and the whole Viking clan two-parter, the Primal Theory episode is an amusing oneshot, and it's hilarious that this show was allowed to depict a T-rex giving birth. But the Colossaeus should have only lasted two episodes instead of three, the stuff about the Viking chief and his son wanting vengeance isn't nearly as interesting as the show thinks it is aside from the climax (maybe if he intersected with the third Colossaeus episode it would've improved both storylines), and the last episode is just a mess - the fight with the shapeshifting rock monster is bizarrely uncreative (Spear really couldn't think of anything more clever to fight a flaming rock man than "climb to the highest point of a mountain and tackle him off it"?) and ends anti-climactically, and the burn victim sex just doesn't sit right with me for whatever reason. Probably would've been better served with either more time dedicated to this finale (so get rid of one of the Colossaeus episodes or Primal Theory), or just getting rid of the Viking chief in the same episode his son died.
I hated alot of S2 because I was expecting Conan/Turok with advanced civilizations using slaves and dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals as siege weapons or to construct entire empires. Instead its just the same civilizations we know all anachronistically combined and existing somehow. The Queen should've had dinosaurs and enslaved peoples under her control and just the one giant dude as a bodyguard. The Vikings sorta had the right idea by using short-faced bears as mounts. There was way too much drama for new characters or situations that didn't need them. The final episode was just the absolute worst though, bordered on parody. Some say the Discovery buyout basically made Genndy and the writers end it badly out of spite.
 
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