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New season of love death robots.
I have no faith in this series anymore. Season 1 was good, season 2 was hit or miss, and season 3 was plain shit, Robert Valley left and took any original ideas with him. Since then there's only 2 kinds of shorts. Gritty "deep" generic sci fi shit and Guardians of the Galaxy rip offs.

Only one short in this looks 2d animated so it's yet more gritty grimy 3d engine tests and le epic whacky suicide squad humor.
 
I like some of the people saying how proud they were to work on this show.
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To be fair, it got the approval of Mr. Democrat himself:

There is no way this thing isn't some USAID project or has backdoor funding. When was the last time a cartoon ever got this sort of push? I have never heard of this comedian, Ramy Youssef, so I don't think he would be a big enough name to push it himself.
 
(Expecting to be rated atrociously late on this)
Why, as I was happily looking at Animal Crossing designs on reddit, did I see an ad for a Kevin Hart self insert cartoon? Surely everyone is thinking the same thing.
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Imma probably get shit for it, but Kevin Hart is probably one of the unfunniest comedians out there. This is gonna be ass
When I hear this I unfortunately think of Kevin Nash since he's always been referred to as Big Kev
Kwab
 
To be fair, it got the approval of Mr. Democrat himself:

There is no way this thing isn't some USAID project or has backdoor funding. When was the last time a cartoon ever got this sort of push? I have never heard of this comedian, Ramy Youssef, so I don't think he would be a big enough name to push it himself.
This is what I never understood about this kind of USAID plopaganda. They have all this money, and can't even hire animators capable of producing shit that wouldn't have been mocked on newgrounds a couple decades ago.

These tards actually do seriously buy their own bullshit to some degree. They think their plopaganda is so awesome that everyone will just instantly buy into it even if the delivery vehicle is absolute garbage nobody would watch willingly.

I mean holy shit, even Hitler knew to hire Hugo Boss to design some epic uniforms, knew to pick an awesome font for the propaganda (Antiqua), and a genius filmmaker like Leni Riefenstahl to design the best propaganda ever.

There was something to appeal to nearly anyone who wasn't in one of the detested minorities in Nazi propaganda.

Where is the supposed audience for this ugly completely unappealing bullshit? Who is supposed to be fooled by it?

It's just so abjectly incompetent it's pathetic.
 
Saw these on tumblr, sirartwork is pretty funny.

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The state of western animation.
this is incredibly funny 5 years later with hindsight. I think i said it before but i swear there has to be a template that exists for these cartoons or maybe it's just that because of the fact some of these people gradate from the same schools they just copy each other's work. My bad for being 🤔 just catching up on the thread.
 
this is incredibly funny 5 years later with hindsight.

You know the excuse, "animation is a long arduous process that takes time." Can only go so far after time passes.

Remember south park episodes (used to) come out on a weekly basis from pitch to final animation. It's why 6 days to air was made.

Family guy takes at most 6 months to make just one episode despite being one of the stiffest most lifeless cartoons Even made.
 
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You know the excuse, "animation is a long arduous process that takes time." Can only go so far after time passes.

Remember south park episodes (used to) come out on a weekly basis from pitch to final animation. It's why 6 days to air was made.

Family guy takes at most 6 months to make just one episode despite being one of the stiffest most lifeless cartoons Even made.
For real. I can excuse hand drawn animation, and maybe using multiple animation styles like Gumball or some episodes of Smiling Friends. But computer animation is less forgivable if you ask me.
 
You know the excuse, "animation is a long arduous process that takes time." Can only go so far after time passes.

Remember south park episodes (used to) come out on a weekly basis from pitch to final animation. It's why 6 days to air was made.

Family guy takes at most 6 months to make just one episode despite being one of the stiffest most lifeless cartoons Even made.
For real. I can excuse hand drawn animation, and maybe using multiple animation styles like Gumball or some episodes of Smiling Friends. But computer animation is less forgivable if you ask me.
Animation takes time meanwhile it feels like all of these shows are animated by the same exact people or at least the same types. There are exceptions but they are the exceptions for that reason as they are not the made in the factory syndicated shows that are pumped out by the network (The two shows the Vizie Pop is making is an example). It is funny you bring up FG and South Park since people shit on these more ugly style/animated adult shows as if these other 'Calarts' shows are any better. Both have their problems where one is like A Grey Cat says stiff and lifeless with an aformentioned intentionally ugly and rough looking art style. Then on the other side you have the same face beanmouth style that tries to be as bouncy as possible with the added bonus of not being able to tell who made who.

It's just crazy to me how even though i don't watch these shows regularly i can easily tell these adult shows apart from one another and it makes it easier to weed out the trash from the okay to the good. The Tumblr drawings from that artist are funny to me because post early to mid 2010s we've been through a flurry of samey looking cartoons not just in style but down to that same wannabe fantasy adventure premise.
 
The two shows the Vizie Pop is making is an example
This isn't either thread for those shows but I'm just gonna cross post my thoughts on them for the prosperity in the western animation thread.


I have a very love/hate relationship with Vivian mango milkshakes body of work. It's nice to look at and the musics decent occasional banger here and there and even a decent episode or two. (More so in helluvas case) but I hate the culture that she's surrounded herself in. She once said she wanted to be separate from the mainstream do her own thing but...no like many before her she sold out and embraced the mainstream for the sake of her bottom line.


She wanted to be rorschach, she ended up being Ozymandias.
 
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I found some leaked storyboards/animatics for the King of the Hill continuation on /co/. Only about 5 minutes worth of "animation" revealed, but what we got so far is very gossip worthy.

~Bobby and Connie are dating
~Hank got a new ugly dog named Ceasar
~Kahn and Minh are all but confirmed to be divorced.
~Kahn is currently living with Bill
~Hank watches a Star Wars-like movie and gets teary-eyed by the end of it.
~In a hospital, Peggy has a realistic portrayal of a panic attack, drops an f-bomb, and starts yelling for Xanax.

I like that that the little snippet of what was shown had me chuckle a few times. Though there's definitely a feeling that some hip, young, 30-year-old millennials were writing some of these jokes. Despite a few modernisms thrown here and there, I'm happy to say the upcoming King of the Hill season is shaping up to be something worth watching.
 

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Kahn and Minh are all but confirmed to be divorced.
WTF? These two were an extremely tight couple, why are they divorced now? That is a very odd decision, made even odder by the fact that Kahn would do this:
~Kahn is currently living with Bill


~Hank watches a Star Wars-like movie and gets teary-eyed by the end of it.
Hank is soy now.

In a hospital, Peggy has a realistic portrayal of a panic attack, drops an f-bomb, and starts yelling for Xanax.
God dammit

~Bobby and Connie are dating
~Hank got a new ugly dog named Ceasar
The good decisions, can’t really hate these.
 
~Bobby and Connie are dating
Again?
~Hank got a new ugly dog named Ceasar
The funnier joke would've been to have Ladybird alive, older, and say nothing but that's not down to earth like the show
~Kahn and Minh are all but confirmed to be divorced.
~Kahn is currently living with Bill
I bet this is a side-effect of the race-based voice casting stance Greg Daniels took.
~Hank watches a Star Wars-like movie and gets teary-eyed by the end of it.
~In a hospital, Peggy has a realistic portrayal of a panic attack, drops an f-bomb, and starts yelling for Xanax.
Everyone on all sides waited too long to do a King of the Hill revival, and I don't mean this as a good thing.


someone explain this joke of a kindergartener defeating homosexual logic to me
 
Honestly still don't get the leap in logic from the question as asked to the question as interpreted. If you take the question at face-value, you can actually come to the opposite conclusion; i.e. "She [the liar] would say that she's the real Ms. Keen!" would be a true statement, and "She [the truth-teller] would say that I [the liar] am the real Ms. Keen!" would be a lie, therefore making 1 the real Ms. Keen and 2 the liar.

I can't see it working without making the "If you were the liar" part of the question explicit. Either I'm retarded, or this logic puzzle was poorly written and I'm still retarded.
 
Honestly still don't get the leap in logic from the question as asked to the question as interpreted. If you take the question at face-value, you can actually come to the opposite conclusion; i.e. "She [the liar] would say that she's the real Ms. Keen!" would be a true statement, and "She [the truth-teller] would say that I [the liar] am the real Ms. Keen!" would be a lie, therefore making 1 the real Ms. Keen and 2 the liar.

I can't see it working without making the "If you were the liar" part of the question explicit. Either I'm retarded, or this logic puzzle was poorly written and I'm still retarded.
The way I've always heard this riddle is you encounter two brothers at a fork in the road. One always lies, one always tells the truth, and they know which path leads to your destination. You have to ask each of them a question that will reveal the correct way to go. The answer is to ask each man "If you were your brother, which road would you tell me to take?" The truth-telling brother tells you the wrong road to take, as his liar brother would. The liar cannot tell you that his brother would truthfully tell you the right road to take, so he lies and tells you the wrong road to take. Thus the brothers agree on a single road and you take the one that they don't say their brother would recommend. This is the same sort of solution (forcing the liar to pretend to be the truth-teller to elicit a workable answer) but I feel that centering it on the environment or an object makes the solution simpler than making it about the liar and the truth-teller themselves.

Edit: I think what's confusing about the given example is the indistinctness of pronouns in the dialogue of the Ms. Keens. A more accurate/objective phrasing would be (Keen 1 being the liar, Keen 2 being the truth-teller as in the example) Keen 1 saying "Keen 2 would say that Keen 1 is the real Ms. Keen" and Keen 2 saying "Keen 1 would say that Keen 1 is the real Ms. Keen." Obviously neither of them would say the other is the real Ms. Keen, but the liar is unable to model the behavior of the truth-teller, thus giving away that she is the liar.
 
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