That's actually what I meant. But regardless, the episode focused more on the humor, and for what it was, it's still one of the best Futurama episodes imo.
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It also notes a female Zorro show was canned too. No loss, all gain.
Oh goody. Another "badass princess shitting on Disney tropes" when their own movies from "Brave" onwards already did that on their own turf. Numerous times. Now it too is a cliche ironically.
Netflix still is a household name that attracts normies to watch and starry-eyed wannabes to give their creations for fame. As long as there's willing people giving them content, they'll always have something to keep the lights on.
Also some netflix shows/projects are only distributed through them, not produced. That's the case for "Nimona". As well as dedicated autists like whoever runs the SaveNimona account kept hope alive for them to finish this after Disney backstabbed BlueSky. It's nice when a project gets rescued from defunct studio ruins but I wish it would have been the Mouse Guard movie instead.
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The only thing Netflix saved outside of that shitty Nimona shit is that Mega Man movie Fox originally wanted to make (which wasn't clear if it's gonna be animation or live-action or a hybrid of both). By the time a Mega Man movie was shelved due to a lot of things such as Disney buying 20th Century Fox and such, it was put to a turnaround and Netflix picked it up, along with Nimona, and even then expectations for the two were way, way low.
Yes, The Mouse Guard would've been better. Seeing trailers of it looks like it a very low-budget DTV animated movie, like some dollar store ripoff mockbuster from the likes of Video Brinquedo or Spark Plug, and that's not a good sign.
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I read Nimona (the comic) a while back and it was sort of boring, but even the fucking comic looked more unique than this. This looks like it's trying to do the Puss In Boots 2 thing where it's like a painting in motion, but the budget clearly isn't high enough to make that work and it just ends up looking generic (reminds me of The Dragon Prince, Arkane, etc. I don't think the style is widespread enough to become played out yet, but it's definitely become distinct enough to be qualify that statement). It's made even worse by the fact that the cartoon actively emphasizes what the comic de-emphasized in its art style: the eyes. Here's a comparison- the comic is on the left, the film's on the right. Ignore the fact that they made Blackheart brown and didn't include the blonde dude on the right, the former is Netflix standard and the latter is because blonde guy's a villain (or anti-hero? I forget, but he's not a part of the pair).
Also, this transformation looks like shit. Why is the whale head just clipping into the gorilla neck instead of there being more of a natural transition?
I'm glad that the standard animation style seems to be shifting into this sort of hybrid style instead of the utter dogshit that was "realistic" CG in the 2000s or early 2010s, but the more it shows up in new animation the more I get wistful about how different so many of these shows could've been instead. At the absolute minimum this movie could've tried to look more like the comic with smaller faces or something, but the most they seem to have done was shrink the limb endings the tiniest bit.
Rambling aside, I find it funny that the film changes Nimona's hair to look less like shit and more explicitly feminine (as it does to her entire body), when the stated objective of her design was to be a character that "people who weren't interested in looking particularly buxom or sensual might want to dress as" (direct quote from two interviews she did). Priceless.
EDIT: holy shit what did they do to blonde guy
Also, this transformation looks like shit. Why is the whale head just clipping into the gorilla neck instead of there being more of a natural transition?
I'm glad that the standard animation style seems to be shifting into this sort of hybrid style instead of the utter dogshit that was "realistic" CG in the 2000s or early 2010s, but the more it shows up in new animation the more I get wistful about how different so many of these shows could've been instead. At the absolute minimum this movie could've tried to look more like the comic with smaller faces or something, but the most they seem to have done was shrink the limb endings the tiniest bit.
Rambling aside, I find it funny that the film changes Nimona's hair to look less like shit and more explicitly feminine (as it does to her entire body), when the stated objective of her design was to be a character that "people who weren't interested in looking particularly buxom or sensual might want to dress as" (direct quote from two interviews she did). Priceless.
EDIT: holy shit what did they do to blonde guy
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"This is the part where you run" as an actual line of dialogue. Embarassing.
Unrelated I believe they did a Dogtanian and the Muskerhounds movie a couple of years back. I've a soft spot for the original, anyone know if it is worth the watch?
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This was that same comic that BlueSky planned on making a movie out of since it was LGBT but ultimately didn't and will certainly not do since it's been shutdown yeah?
I don't know how BlueSky would've handled making a movie adaptation out of this, but yikes this is not how you would go about it.
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I guess whitepills really a thing. This is uniroincally a good story to see.
And I'm depressed. This type of fantiction writing is the level of professional writing in this day and age and it's sickening. Why stop here, probably shoehorn more shitty generic woman power bullshit with more shitty dialogue. Even the voice acting is so hysterically bad that it feels like satire at this rate even though it's shockingly not, especially when tailor made with the wooden cliched dialogue.
Now I still think Blue Sky's movie would've been a disaster had that version been made, but Disney would never go as far as to shut down the studio along with said project just exactly two years after they acquired 20th Century Fox (and that's not just because of the ongoing pandemic either). But this right here is set to be a disaster of tragic proportions that it might as well saved the Hindenburg, JFK, Chernobyl, Oklahoma City or 9/11.
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Hey, Noelle, 2001 called, they want their "fresh and original ideas" back.
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Oh shit you just reminded me that's the year "Shrek" came out. He was the firs one to shit on Disney tropes. Then Disney and Pixar themselves started doing it to themselves. Dreamworks really stuck it to Disney and then Disney really stuck it to Disney. Everybody had a turn in beating that horse, including the horse itself. It was funny, now it's just sad...ly boring.
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a horse beaten so much it's not even paste. it's beating on literal molecules at this point
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just by looking at the promo images of Nimona aping Chris Sanders' artstyle (specifically the nose area) turns me off from watching it
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Shrek buck-broke Disney, and by extension, the western animation industry to a degree that they still haven't recovered from it.
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Looks like some cringy teen fantasy show with trans men and lesbian succubi. The pink and red just screams I want attention.
EDIT: holy shit what did they do to blonde guy
Hey Chris Sanders is good, lilo and stich was fucking excellent and how to train your dragon was good. This show looks like arcane but for kids, it's gonna teach 11 year olds what a binder is and how to do anal sex. The artstyle reminds me of those early 3d shows from the 2000s, there was a dragon show made to sell merchandise specifically, it had very tight and slender designs, this looks like that
As great as Shrek 1 & 2 were, they also ruined a whole generation of computer animation.
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FTFY. Much like Ice Age, only the first Shrek was any good.
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People have a very love/hate relationship with shrek. It is still in its own right a funny satire on animation at the turn of the millennium, but then you remember it lead to decades worth of cursed images, cursed merchandise, memes both good and cursed and an autistic fan base that practically worships shrek as much a God as the mouse is seen as. And then there's the fact that yes cgi and even 2d animation to this very day is still trying to copy its success without understanding why the oh shrek works.
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I'm so happy the pilot was the worst show I have read.
Also I'm glad Peter Cullen isn't in the crappy Transformers cartoon.
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I would say this sounds like Sonic's turbo-tismo fanbase but I don't see entire fucking fan projects about Shrek that rival the originals being made.
Anyone else noticing a downer but lulzy pattern?
Around the time Shrek came out, there were a plethora of new computer resources beginning to develop and the possibilities for animation to still be amazing without killing animators seemed to be endless. Then 9/11 happened, the 2007 writers strike happened, the 2008 recession happened, "reality" tv invaded like the mongols, and by the time 2010 hit we were starting to pick up where we left off in animation again. But around the mid-2010s I want to say things started to...blend together. New cartoons were more cynical with fuck-you-mom&dad overtones while if put side by side to each other, they all looked like they could be put into each others' shows and not feel out of place at all.
With the exception of a few standouts, they all feel......wait for it... ARTIFICIAL.
And now we have a second writer's strike that's main gripe is being replaced with... ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
20 years of fear in everyday living, creative suffication for temporary economic gain, internet-fueled retardation, superficially obsessive fandoms and confusion of inspiration with bootlegging are leading up to its logical conclusion. At least for pedowood anyway (long live independent creation). Those "writers" better find someone to do for them what John Henry did for railroad workers. Or they are screwed.