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[CyrusHowler]

I love how there’s people that like Netflixvania but not Netflixvania Nocturd like they aren’t both steaming piles of goat shit.

I’m so fucking tired of this “nobody is truly good or bad” bullshit where they make the villain sympathetic and make Christianity evil.
Castlevania is about as black and white as you can get. They turned Trevor into a mopey asshole, just like they did to The Punisher, race swapped a bunch of characters and just shat over everything great about the series.
Nocturd just ramped it up to 11. Fuck this bullshit.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Planet 51 was kino

 

[Romeo]

I've been watching The Looney Tunes Show over work and it's amazing how based the show was.

Porky Pig stress eating pepperoni realizing that he is a cannibal. - S1E17 - Sunday Night Slice​

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For starters, one of the best things about implementing anthropomorphic characters back then is that you can utilize racism against animals in the dialogue (or is it called speciesism?) without getting retaliation from corporate. Some of the funniest moments was Daffy Duck being racist against his friend Porky Pig.

Spoiler: S2E12 - Dear John

One of the scenes of the attack ad.​

Background: One of the subplots of the episode is Daffy realizing Porky is a city councilman and decides to use the perks of being Porky's friend to obtain privileges and favors around town. Porky, realizing this, pleads Daffy to not do this as he could look like a bribed politician. Daffy promises not to take advantage of his friendship of a politician, and then runs against Porky in the upcoming election and releases an attack ad.

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Attack Ad Announcer: Porky Pig voted not once, but twice, to make our city dirtier. He voted to eliminate garbage collection. He voted three times to allow dumping in the river. Why would a city councilman do such a thing? Because he's a pig. *pig squeal noises* And pigs are filthy. *mud sounds* On Election Day, let's send this pig back to the farm. Vote Daffy Duck for city council.

Daffy Duck: I'm Daffy Duck, and I approve this message.

When I heard this, I laughed my ass off.

Spoiler: S2E23 - Here Comes the Pig

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Background: The main plot of this episode is Daffy pushing Porky to go after his former ex Becky Hogg after Porky was invited to her wedding. Daffy believed Becky was his true love because her last name is "Hogg" (as in hog/pig) and pushed Porky to attend the wedding so that he can ruin the wedding by shouting to Becky that she loves Porky and not her current fiancée. However, they were too late to stop the wedding, and the dialogue ensues in the ballroom.

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Porky Pig: Aww, they look happy. I can't believe we were going to stop their wedding.

Daffy Duck: I can't believe Becky Hogg isn't a pig.

Porky Pig: Sigh, well, even though it turns out Becky and I weren't destined for each other, I still appreciate what you tried to do for me Daffy. You're a good friend.

Daffy Duck: The love of your love is out there somewhere, Porky. And I promise you we'll find here. I don't care how many farms we have to go to. We will dig through that slop and we will find you a female pig.

Porky Pig: She doesn't have to be a pig, you know. I mean, you have this big theory that just because I'm a pig I'm automatically gonna fall in love with the first pig that I....

*sees Petunia Pig (who is a pig) and Porky instantly falls in love and asks her to dance*

Daffy Duck: I did say mark my words.

Spoiler: S2E11 - We're in Big Truffle

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Background: Daffy and Porky learned that truffles go very high on the market, resulting in Daffy bringing Porky to a national park since pigs are used to sniff out and locate truffles.

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Porky Pig: What are we doing here?

Daffy Duck: Truffle hunting. You're going to sniff them out. I'm going to dig them out and we're going to be rich.

Porky Pig: Sniff them out? Daffy, I'm not that kind of a pig. I was born in the suburbs. I wear a blazer.

Daffy Duck: Will you please just try? It's getting late!

*Porky Pig starts sniffing for truffles*

Porky Pig: Ugh, your pig ancestors are rolling in their graves. Come on Porky, sniff like you mean it!

*Porky Pig starts oinking as he sniffs*

Daffy Duck: There you go. Find that truffle piggy!

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The series also has fat-people jokes, mostly at the expense of Porky.

Spoiler: S2E6 - Father Figures

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Background: One of the subplots of the episode is Porky Pig joining a Father Figure program where he is to care for Henry Chickenhawk. However, Porky does not understand that when Henry that when he wants chicken, he wants to eat chicken.

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Henry Chickenhawk: Listen Piggy, I go through father figures like you go through boxes of chocolate.

Porky Pig:

Spoiler: S2E24 - Mr. Weiner

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Background: Daffy Duck gives advice to Porky Pig to be cool and not be over-excited when picking up his date Petunia Pig from the airport.

Daffy Duck: You cannot blow this! Remember, you come from a long line of pigs, who've blown it! Need, I remind you of your great grandfather, Pudgy Pig. Your grandfather, Plumpy Pig. And your father, Plus-Size Pig.

Porky Pig: My dad's name is Alan.

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The Looney Tunes Show also foretells the ignorance of some people not knowing why smoke detectors beep through Yosemite Sam, even though he's not of a particular ethnicity.

Spoiler: S2E8 - The Stud, the Nerd, the Average Joe, and the Saint

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*Smoke detector keeps beeping in Yosemite Sam's house*

Yosemite Sam: Oh, this is just the kind of thing you need a gun for. I would've blasted that darn smoke detector to bits. I ain't slept in three nights. Every time I start to fall asleep, beep, beep, beep!

Bugs Bunny: You just need to change the battery.

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And finally, the show makes fun of people who pursue body modifications to become "perfect" through Daffy Duck.

Spoiler: S1E15 - Bugs and Daffy Get a Job

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Background: Daffy's doctor Dr. Weisberg reveals to Daffy that he has a bump on his beak, making Daffy fully paranoid of the word "bump" because it reminds him of his imperfections in his goal to become the perfect being. Daffy then goes through a surgery operation to shorten his beak to a drastic amount to get rid of the bump, much to his own joy, and to the horrors of everyone else. Daffy calls his girlfriend Tina Russo to celebrate the occasion in a fancy lunch.

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*At the fancy restaurant*

Tina: I'm looking for my boyfriend. He's a little black duck.

Restaurant Host: A duck!? Oh-ho-ho, I wasn't sure what THAT was. We put him in the way back.

*Tina finds Daffy looking at a menu and takes a seat*

Tina: Kinda fancy for lunch. What's the occasion?

*Tina takes a sip of water*
*Daffy puts down the menu revealing his deformed beak*

Daffy: I'm the occasion.

*Tina watches in shock and spats out the water*

Tina: What happened to you!???

Daffy: I got a beak-job. Look! No bump.

Tina: You messed up your whole face just to get rid of a stupid bump!? You look crazy!

Daffy: If I look so crazy, how come everyone is staring at me.

*Tina looks behind and sees everyone in the restaurant looking at Daffy in disgust and shock*

Tina: Because you look crazy!

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I doubt if The Looney Tunes Show was to get revived to get several more seasons that it would still have these jokes due to how safe and politically correct the Western Animation industry is. The politically incorrect humor the show has gives it a charm that ages like fine wine and it sucks that we may not get a show like this again. At the same time, I'm kinda glad that the show was cancelled before it got infested by the toxicity of the average Californian writer during the mid to late 2010s.

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And who could not forget this banger of a Merrie Melody from the series: Daffy Duck the Wizard.

From S1E17 - Sunday Night Slice
Apparently, one of the farmers back in 2015 noticed that one of the letters seen in the spells in the music video is Daedric from The Elder Scrolls.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Planet 51 was kino

Yeah, I can't think of a rebuttal. It deserved better.

 

[starborn427614]

I just realized they turned Rayman into an emotion lmao.

Better that than whatever the hell Blood Dragon was doing with the guy.

 

[TheDataHorder]

Planet 51 was kino

true, its one of those movies that's so bad that its good.

I've been watching The Looney Tunes Show over work and it's amazing how based the show was.

the way daffy treats porky is unbelievably based.
hell, most of the damn show is unhinged. one episode has fucking time travel in it because daffy fucked up with that auto carrot peeler.
is this looney tunes or doctor who?

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

true, its one of those movies that's so bad that its good.

It's so good that it's good.

 

[Colon capital V]

banger

Everyone talks how Looney Tune's Show is an underrated classic, I will NOT rest until Duck Dodgers gets its much needed recognition and due diligence from the audience

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I just want to know how Tom Jones got commissioned into making a full-fledged theme song for Duck Dodgers. It's such a bizarre choice unless Tom has sung for James Bond or some sci-fi shows and that's in reference to that.

 

[AnOminous]

I just want to know how Tom Jones got commissioned into making a full-fledged theme song for Duck Dodgers. It's such a bizarre choice unless Tom has sung for James Bond or some sci-fi shows and that's in reference to that.

Exactly that.

 

[anustart76]

Exactly that.
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Holy shit, I had no idea that was the same guy. The Duck Dodgers theme song is one of my favorites, it's really musically good (of course it is, since it sounds like Thunderball) but also hilarious with the lyrics.

I'll never forget Tom Jones in the most beautiful voice singing "In the 24th and one half centuryyyyyyyyyyyy!"

 

[TVB]

Holy shit, I had no idea that was the same guy. The Duck Dodgers theme song is one of my favorites, it's really musically good (of course it is, since it sounds like Thunderball) but also hilarious with the lyrics.

I'll never forget Tom Jones in the most beautiful voice singing "In the 24th and one half centuryyyyyyyyyyyy!"

The theme song is an absolute delight. The music itself is also very kino

 

[The Last Stand]

By the way, anyone notice when 50s-60s cartoons rebroadcasted in syndication in the 90s , new theme songs were added?

Look at the description with the third one:

At least they didn't do one for Rocky and Bullwinkle

They just made a custom network intro with the same stock music in the show.

Looney Tunes complication shows did that as well in the 60s, 70s, 80s. I believe it was because of syndication/licensing restrictions.

 

[TVB]

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Yeah, I can't think of a rebuttal. It deserved better.

Coming from a company that also made shit like Luck and Wonder Park, this is surprisingly the only good movie from its resume.

Looney Tunes complication shows did that as well in the 60s, 70s, 80s. I believe it was because of syndication/licensing restrictions.

I'd say 90s and 2000s also had the same issue. Remember when networks like Fox, ABC, Nick and even TBS, TNT or CN had some licensing issues, at least until years later.

 

[The Last Stand]

I'd say 90s and 2000s also had the same issue. Remember when networks like Fox, ABC, Nick and even TBS, TNT or CN had some licensing issues, at least until years later.

I don't know the specifics of how it works. From my reading, the networks had the licenses for the cartoons themselves, just not the title cards. I believe when Turner bought exclusive syndication rights to those cartoons, the rights for the title cards came with them.

 

[TVB]

I don't know the specifics of how it works. From my reading, the networks had the licenses for the cartoons themselves, just not the title cards. I believe when Turner bought exclusive syndication rights to those cartoons, the rights for the title cards came with them.

Up until late-1996, MGM had theatrical, video and syndication rights to Turner properties (including the pre-May 1986 MGM film library). When Warner purchased Turner, they slowly but surely did air the uncut title cards, but still have to keep in line with television censorship, though they would still play the shorts at night for their Toonheads series.

 

[The Last Stand]

Up until llate-1996, MGM had theatrical, video and syndication rights to Turner properties (including the pre-May 1986 MGM film library). When Warner purchased Turner, they slowly but surely did air the uncut title cards, but still have to keep in line with television censorship, though they would still play the shorts at night for their Toonheads series.

Do you have a source for that? Not that I don't believe you, I'd like to read it.

On that note, The Bugs Bunny Show is the longest running syndication show to date, even accounting for the network changes. Everybody loves old cartoons.

 

[TVB]

Do you have a source for that? Not that I don't believe you, I'd like to read it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Entertainment

On March 25, 1986, Ted Turner and his Turner Broadcasting System purchased Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM) from Kirk Kerkorian for $1.5 billion, and renamed MGM Entertainment Company, Inc. However, due to concerns in the financial community over the debt-load of his companies, on August 26, 1986, he was forced to sell the MGM name, all of United Artists (UA), and the MGM Culver City-based studio lot back to Kerkorian for approximately $300 million after months of ownership. But in order to manage the vault, Turner kept the studio's film, television and cartoon library as well as a small portion of the United Artists library, forming Turner Entertainment Company.

The library also included the pre-1950 Warner Bros. library (as well as most of the pre-August 1948 Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies cartoons), the Fleischer Studios/Famous Studios Popeye cartoons originally released by Paramount Pictures, the US/Canadian/Latin American/Australian distribution rights to the RKO Radio Pictures library, and most of the Gilligan's Island television franchise (not counting the TV movie sequels owned by other companies), all of which were owned by United Artists.

Turner Entertainment self-distributed much of its library for the first decade of its existence, but on October 10, 1996, Turner Broadcasting was purchased by Time Warner and its distribution functions were largely absorbed into Warner Bros. As a result, Turner is now an in-name-only subsidiary of Warner, serving merely as a copyright holder for a portion of their library. Hanna-Barbera's current purpose as the in-name only unit of Warner Bros. Animation is to serve as the copyright holder for its creations such as The Flintstones, Scooby-Doo and Yogi Bear while Warner Bros. handles sales and merchandising.

...you're welcome.

 

[The Last Stand]

I've been watching The Looney Tunes Show over work and it's amazing how based the show was.

Oh, I remember that show. Looney Tunes works surprisingly well in a sitcom format now. I like the throwbacks it does with the characters' roots of thematic entertainment. That one episode where Bugs loses his royalties because Daffy stole his carrot peeler invention had him exiled back to his "hole in the ground" due to him not wanting to deal with Daffy.

Bugs lived in suburbia for so long, he's not used to living in the forest as a traditional rabbits. The gags are clever with the logic.

 

[TVB]

Oh, I remember that show. Looney Tunes works surprisingly well in a sitcom format now. I like the throwbacks it does with the characters' roots of thematic entertainment. That one episode where Bugs loses his royalties because Daffy stole his carrot peeler invention had him exiled back to his "hole in the ground" due to him not wanting to deal with Daffy.

Bugs lived in suburbia for so long, he's not used to living in the forest as a traditional rabbits. The gags are clever with the logic.

I remember watching it when it was new and I was surprised how well it works as a Seinfeld-esque improv sitcom.