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[Rome's rightful successor]

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So WB spent millions of dollars to make a Wile E. Coyote movie, only to make a heel turn and have it Memory Hole'd from existence... If this isn't an epic facepalm moment, i don't know what is...

WB messing up? Just another day on planet Earth.

 

[Super Guido]

He's incredible at consistency and movement, but, I think a problem with a lot of his movies is that nothing ever rests. The characters and the props never stay still unless they're painted in. And on top of that the colors of his movies were always way too muddy and desaturated, it makes them nauseating to watch sometimes. Like we can't just have a character answer the phone, it has to be balancing on four books and they have to get their neck caught in the wire and then everything falls over.

He fixed this in his later stuff but by then it was too little too late. Also did anything ever become of that Dragon's Lair thing or is that just stuck in limbo forever? I don't even blame him he's pushing 90 but I never heard anything about it after a while.

Last i heard, it was gonna be live action and a lot of people were upset about it.

 

[anustart76]

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So WB spent millions of dollars to make a Wile E. Coyote movie, only to make a heel turn and have it Memory Hole'd from existence... If this isn't an epic facepalm moment, i don't know what is...

Fuck me, this sounded like a genuinely funny idea and I was actually interested in seeing it.

 

[Commander X]

Can’t say I cared much about this Coyote movie since it probably would come off like all of the other lackluster "live action meets animation" films of the past couple of decades, but seeing so many people’s work get deleted for a tax cut is intensely demoralizing even for me so I can’t imagine how it feels for people who actually worked on it. It wouldn’t all be half as bad if we hadn’t all just seen how much effort WB was willing to make to get that tone-deaf, obvious piece of crap The Flash finished and out the door. Anybody still at WB with any care or talent should probably quit soon.

 

[TVB]

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So WB spent millions of dollars to make a Wile E. Coyote movie, only to make a heel turn and have it Memory Hole'd from existence... If this isn't an epic facepalm moment, i don't know what is...

Keep in mind, Tony Kahn of AEW wanted WB to cancel the movie just to fuck with John Cena. Not only can we blame Warner, but also AEW for the cancellation of this movie

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Spain dropped another animated banger on us last year.

A dog in 1980s NYC is lonely and builds a robot companion. Not going to spoil anything further than that, other than the fact that this is one of the few pieces of media to actually get me to almost tear up a little. And it's all done with little to no dialogue. SEE. THIS. MOVIE. it's apparently also nominated for the Oscar for Best Animated Feature. If there were any sense of justice in the world, it would win, hands down, but it's probably going to be Spider-Verse.

 

[SpiderBitch]

Has anyone seen the new show Scavengers Reign?

Im surprised to see its American in origin, since this kind of artsy stuff is usually french or something



Real pretty

 

[Mr. Nobodyguy 202]

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So WB spent millions of dollars to make a Wile E. Coyote movie, only to make a heel turn and have it Memory Hole'd from existence... If this isn't an epic facepalm moment, i don't know what is...

Reminder that Zaslov basically violated Sect. 5 (a) of the FTC Act (15 USC 45) and the IRS could rip him and WBD’s ass into two. Had AT&T did something decent with Warner Bros or not even merge with them, none of this shit would even happen and Zaslov would still have Discovery as a stand-alone company.

The head of WB hasn't even watched it, either. I can't really think of any other reason for the constant cockblocking of this film than spite. It's bizarre for such an established property to be treated like this.

WB’s relationship with the Looney Tunes franchise has been on the rocks since Back in Action flopped back in 2003 and the closure of WB Feature Animation. After that, any LT-related project we got ranged from mediocre (Loonatics Unleashed, Baby Looney Tunes, and Wabbit/New Looney Tunes) to decent (Duck Dodgers, Larry Doyle shorts, and Bah Humduck, The Looney Tunes Show).

Even some of the original shorts haven’t gotten restored for the DVD/Blu-Ray releases due to WB not having the negatives stored. Same thing could even be said for the Censored 11 shorts as they were initially considering on remastering those for their own collection until WB pussied out around 2013 cause of BLM. Say what you will about Disney in recent years, but they put better priorities with Mickey compared to how Warner’s is with the Looney Tunes gang

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Did anyone talk about the new He Man season? From the thread it sounds like it was meh that no one cared for after the previous season.

Spain dropped another animated banger on us last year.
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A dog in 1980s NYC is lonely and builds a robot companion. Not going to spoil anything further than that, other than the fact that this is one of the few pieces of media to actually get me to almost tear up a little. And it's all done with little to no dialogue. SEE. THIS. MOVIE. it's apparently also nominated for the Oscar for Best Animated Feature. If there were any sense of justice in the world, it would win, hands down, but it's probably going to be Spider-Verse.

That really reminds me Futurama for obvious reasons.

 

[starborn427614]

Did anyone talk about the new He Man season? From the thread it sounds like it was meh that no one cared for after the previous season.

The well was kind of poisoned with the whole twist. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people dropped it.

 

[TVB]

WB’s relationship with the Looney Tunes franchise has been on the rocks since Back in Action flopped back in 2003 and the closure of WB Feature Animation. After that, any LT-related project we got ranged from mediocre (Loonatics Unleashed, Baby Looney Tunes, and Wabbit/New Looney Tunes) to decent (Duck Dodgers, Larry Doyle shorts, and Bah Humduck, The Looney Tunes Show).

And don't forget to add Space Jam: A New Legacy in the mediocre category

 

[A Grey Cat]

He's 86 and looks graceful for his age.
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Him and Ralph bakshi

aside the Gandalf grey and furrowed brow I look at these old dogs side by side and I'm reminded of the chapter "old ghosts" in watchmen. Ok so tldr two old ex heroes are talking over a phone one living in sunny Cali (back when it was good for your health to live there) the other in grimy 80s new york city. The Cali lady's got pills, creams, vitamins and all sorts of health nuts stuff the old man on new yorks got bottles of Miller packs of cigarettes and is smoking like a chimney. Yet they BOTH look good for their ages hell old man hollis Mason even holds his own in a fight at the end of the chapter.

Point is these two men couldn't have lived more different lives yet they both came out pretty good in their old ages after all said and done.

Bluth work is charming, cute, family friendly but knew when to go dark and serious and was very devout to religion even putting Christian overtones in it.

Bakshi while a jew by birth probably hasn't been to a synagogue since he left his parents, and most likely doesn't believe in any God or a messiah cause life's to short to wait for someone else to fix it for you. And that nihilistic but optimistic approach resonates in pretty much every movie he's made.

 

[TVB]

Up until recently, the big four, at least to me, were Don Bluth, Ralph Bakshi, Richard Williams and Gene Deitch, as they were the pioneers of independent animation of the mid-to-late-20th century after leaving animation studios that led the boundaries of Golden Age of Animation. The latter four tragically passed in 2019 and 2020, respectively.

 

[Super Guido]

Last i heard, it was gonna be live action and a lot of people were upset about it.

I did a little bit of digging. There was a pitch video (and a corresponding website) made for the animated one, but it was only viewable with a password until someone finally uploaded a mirror 3 weeks ago:

The Gamer has a recent article saying it was still in development as of 2022, and it still has a release date of a very reassuring "To be decided":

https://www.thegamer.com/upcoming-video-game-movie-tv-adaptations/

https://archive.is/OIzPr

 

[A Grey Cat]

Up until recently, the big four, at least to me, were Don Bluth, Ralph Bakshi, Richard Williams and Gene Deitch, as they were the pioneers of independent animation of the mid-to-late-20th century after leaving animation studios that led the boundaries of Golden Age of Animation.

Didn't bakshi work on mighty mouse and spiderman 67? Before going indie with fritz the cat? Those aren't exactly golden age forerunners though. Bluth was an uncredited artist on sleeping beauty when he was just 16 in the 50s and worked alongside Chuck Jones and possibly uncle Walt himself.

 

[TVB]

Didn't bakshi work on mighty mouse and spiderman 67? Before going indie with fritz the cat? Those aren't exactly golden age forerunners though. Bluth was an uncredited artist on sleeping beauty when he was just 16 in the 50s and worked alongside Chuck Jones and possibly uncle Walt himself.

Don't forget Gene Deitch worked for Terrytoons, UPA and even made 13 Tom & Jerry shorts (via his Czech animation studio) for MGM just three years after Hanna Barbera's departure, while Richard Williams worked for UPA and DePatie-Freleng. Williams was also the main animation director for Roger Rabbit for Disney Animation Studio, which was during a time when he was still working on The Thief and the Cobbler as that was in development hell for so long

 

[UnsufficentBoobage]

If I find this subbed I will edit it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e8anO0y3lEA

 

[A Grey Cat]

Don't forget Gene Deitch worked for Terrytoons, UPA and even made 13 Tom & Jerry shorts (via his Czech animation studio) for MGM just three years after Hanna Barbera's departure, while Richard Williams worked for UPA and DePatie-Freleng. Williams was also the main animation director for Roger Rabbit for Disney Animation Studio, which was during a time when he was still working on The Thief and the Cobbler as that was in development hell for so long

Richard Williams deserves the title of Stanley Kubrick of Animation. Despite making so few works ( big theatrical works I mean) they left an impact ot just on animation but cinema as a whole. If you look his work on the pink panther movies, raggedy Ann and Andy and especially thief and the cobbler something about his animation is just....it shouldn't be humanly possible at least not with the technology he had at the time.

Imagine traditional hand drawn animation not only in 60fps and so gorgeously smooth it puts Disney to shame, but in 4k years before the general public had 4k display technology.

 

[umami's milk]

Would I be delusional in believing this shelving move is just a PR stunt by WB to get people talking about the film before they drop it? The 'all publicity is good publicity' rule has worked well for the Sonic movies and just about everything Illumination has put out.

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

Animation-minded Twitter is on fire with #ReleaseCoyoteVsAcme .
Meanwhile, Victor Courtright's Driftwood is being ignored. I also wonder abou the usual suspects this time: SymBionic Titan, Megas XLR, Infinity Train, MaoMao, Bone, Bee and Puppycat, Phoebe and Her Unicorn, The Owl House, Cuphead, and maybe DeadEndia. I am sure that I am forgetting some other on-demand animations.