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Criticizing a show that exploits wokeness isn't acting like it's the end of the world. You maybe don't know this, but it's very common nowadays when some people are reasonably disappointed with low-quality reboots.
It hasn't even come out yet. You don't even know the context.

Making fun of Trump, which you should have expected them to do, is probably the least of the problems. I doubt anyone whining about the Trump jokes cares that none of the original writers are back.
 
It hasn't even come out yet. You don't even know the context.

Making fun of Trump, which you should have expected them to do, is probably the least of the problems. I doubt anyone whining about the Trump jokes cares that none of the original writers are back.
I didn't need to watch the Cuties movie to conclude how horrible this pedobait picture is, the trailer and negative reviews were more than enough.
I have seen the trailer for the Animaniacs reboot too. My opinion remained negative and it's just as fine as people, who don't even know the context either, being excited about the reboot. It is justifiable to call this project low-quality just by the fact they promoted this show the most woke way possible. The mediocre Flash animation and the lack of the original writers are only worsening the situation, and therefore, there's no point of even defending the reboot, as long as you are not a fan of modern soulless remakes.
 
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I have seen the trailer, my opinion remained negative and it's just as fine as people, who don't even know the context either, being excited about the reboot. There' enough reasons to call this reboot low-quality just by the fact they promoted this show the most woke way possible. The mediocre Flash animation and the lack of the original writers are only worsening the situation, and therefore, there's no point of even defending the reboot, as long as you are not into anti-male, anti-Trump sentiment or not a fan of modern soulless remakes.
I think what gets to me, as I mentioned in a previous thread, is that even amongst soulless reboots, this will be one of the “good ones” that people are allowed to support. IE You can shit on Beavis and Butt-head or Clone High all you want but god forbid you say anything about Animaniacs. This isn’t me hyperbolizing; Dana Terrace has been saying things to this effect since people pointed out she worked on DuckTales 2017.

Side note, I’m not sure why people in this thread are assuming Biden has it in the bag but that’s just pouring gasoline on a fire.
 
I think what gets to me, as I mentioned in a previous thread, is that even amongst soulless reboots, this will be one of the “good ones” that people are allowed to support. IE You can shit on Beavis and Butt-head or Clone High all you want but god forbid you say anything about Animaniacs
I'm not bothered by the fact people are gonna enjoy the reboot. If you like this, good for you, none of my business. The thing is that I'm personally not excited about the new show, and you shouldn't be bothered about this either. Although I must admit it is hilarious how people are defending this reboot just because it's Animaniacs, like no matter how bad the remake is gonna be, people with a negative opinion should shut up.
 
Side note, I’m not sure why people in this thread are assuming Biden has it in the bag but that’s just pouring gasoline on a fire.
I don't, but it's a possibility, like I said. There's a 50-50 chance it'll be dated before it comes out... and then I won't have to give a shit.

(If they make fun of anyone else, expect Bernie Sanders jokes and no mention of Biden, which will absolutely betray when they were making these.)
 
The mediocre Flash animation and the lack of the original writers are only worsening the situation, and therefore, there's no point of even defending the reboot, as long as you are not a fan of modern soulless remakes.
I just usually start with the assumption that every single remake of a beloved franchise is going to be complete rape, absolutely worthless garbage, so anything better than that will come as a pleasant surprise.

I doubt anyone whining about the Trump jokes cares that none of the original writers are back.
I didn't even pay attention enough to notice the Trump jokes but seriously, the none of the original writers thing is pretty much a dealbreaker, causing me to expect absolute crap. I almost feel sorry for the VAs who did come back. But whatever, they get a paycheck, even if it's for what I now think is just going to be a complete piece of shit.
 
I didn't even pay attention enough to notice the Trump jokes but seriously, the none of the original writers thing is pretty much a dealbreaker, causing me to expect absolute crap. I almost feel sorry for the VAs who did come back. But whatever, they get a paycheck, even if it's for what I now think is just going to be a complete piece of shit.
Money is money and, to be honest, at least it is the original VAs. If they'd recast the roles that would have been a very obvious sign it was gonna suck.

EDIT: One thing I don't think will be around in the new version, now that I think of it, are the dismissive swipes at things the writers didn't like - like the numerous jabs at Bonkers. Times have changed and I don't think you can do that anymore.
 
I'm bored and nostalgic.

Anyone here want to share their favorite spooky-themed cartoons?
This turned 14 years old Tuesday (the original movie, not tv series). It was one of my favorite movies as a kid, Halloween or not. I unironically still love it and think it holds up. I honestly don't know where I would begin with talking about it. There are a lot of movie parts I've come to notice as an adult.
What a banger.

Also, re: Scary Godmother, yeah that animation's looking rough. Rewatched it the other day. I wasn't as big a fan of that as I was CSS. I remember thinking something seemed "off" about it.
 
I'm not bothered by the fact people are gonna enjoy the reboot. If you like this, good for, none of my business. The thing is that I'm personally not excited about the reboot, and you shouldn't be bothered about this either. Although I must admit it is hilarious how people are defending this reboot just because it's Animaniacs, like no matter how bad the remake is gonna be, people with a negative opinion should shut up.
Hey man, I’m more or less on the same boat. I personally hold no grudge to anyone who supports reboot or has no taste for reboots. My main problem is how people flip flop on whether reboots are acceptable or not and go from blindly defending them to ripping them apart at the drop of a hat. The ridiculous part is when people in the fucking industry are the ones pulling this shit.
I don't, but it's a possibility, like I said. There's a 50-50 chance it'll be dated before it comes out... and then I won't have to give a shit.

(If they make fun of anyone else, expect Bernie Sanders jokes and no mention of Biden, which will absolutely betray when they were making these.)
True and even if he wins, these jokes have about four years of shelf life before he leaves office for good. By the time the 2030s roll around, these jokes would have aged worst than milk sitting in the hot sun.
 
Money is money and, to be honest, at least it is the original VAs. If they'd recast the roles that would have been a very obvious sign it was gonna suck.

EDIT: One thing I don't think will be around in the new version, now that I think of it, are the dismissive swipes at things the writers didn't like - like the numerous jabs at Bonkers. Times have changed and I don't think you can do that anymore.
The PPG reboot in particular recasting everyone never really made much sense to me. In hindsight, that should've been the biggest red flag possible.
 
She was voiced by an original writer. None of them are involved.


When the old show was on air Turner had the rights. Now WB controls those rights, so they can do what they want with them.
Who thought in their right minds it was a good idea to not bring back any of the old writers let alone Tom Reugger the creator himself. I expect to see new writers too but to leave out the old ones for no good reason just sounds like they don't want to actually make a revival were the old meets the new in a fun and clever way but just shamble the Animaniacs name around like a wolf in sheep clothing. I am holding out hope the writers and board artists working on this like the original too but the fact they seemingly refused to bring the original creator back should have been a bad omen for what may come.
 
Who thought in their right minds it was a good idea to not bring back any of the old writers let alone Tom Reugger the creator himself. I expect to see new writers too but to leave out the old ones for no good reason just sounds like they don't want to actually make a revival were the old meets the new in a fun and clever way but just shamble the Animaniacs name around like a wolf in sheep clothing. I am holding out hope the writers and board artists working on this like the original too but the fact they seemingly refused to bring the original creator back should have been a bad omen for what may come.

The WB. Considering the original show oozes the writers' sense of humor, it's not something you're really going to be able to replicate. If you're a big enough fan, maybe, and some of the people working have to be. But otherwise...

(Admittedly, one writer's been trying to get something done with WB - Paul Rugg wanted to do a Freakazoid revival. It's not happening... but I hear Freakazoid may appear in a WBA show soon.)
 
Like I said long ago, it was godforsakenly awful and missed the point of what the original show was trying to do.
What I don't get is why only the female characters. Did the creators of the reboot just hate the voices? Or did they try to replace everyone, but couldn't?
 
I just usually start with the assumption that every single remake of a beloved franchise is going to be complete rape, absolutely worthless garbage, so anything better than that will come as a pleasant surprise.


I didn't even pay attention enough to notice the Trump jokes but seriously, the none of the original writers thing is pretty much a dealbreaker, causing me to expect absolute crap. I almost feel sorry for the VAs who did come back. But whatever, they get a paycheck, even if it's for what I now think is just going to be a complete piece of shit.
Same. I think the only thing I laughed at in any of the promos was Wakko making a Napster joke. Which... is a pretty cringey lol90s joke, but I guess it struck a chord with me, a former Napster-using 90s teen. Go fig. But the extremely self-congratulatory Jurassic Park segment, Pinky on social media... it all felt really tryhard. Like, "look, look how current we are, look at our jabs about nostalgia culture vs current sociopolitical trends, never mansplainy, amirite." Although, I want to believe they got those all out of the way for the previews, and the whole season won't be quite like that.

The VAs sounded a little off to me? Especially Tress. Probably because they're 20 years older. I'm glad they're back, if not the writers. I'm salty about Slappy, she was my favorite.
 
So, since it's the season, if any of you are looking for something to watch, here's a post I found on Tumblr:


This has just about everything you could want, no matter your taste.

(Though if you want to watch the Ren and Stimpy one, stop it about 6 minutes in and play this. You'll thank me.)
 
So, since it's the season, if any of you are looking for something to watch, here's a post I found on Tumblr:


This has just about everything you could want, no matter your taste.

(Though if you want to watch the Ren and Stimpy one, stop it about 6 minutes in and play this. You'll thank me.)
Shame there's no Halloween Tree on there, always been a favorite of mine.
 
I was dreading that the new animaniacs was going to suck ass and would you look at that...I was sadly correct...again.
Im so tired being correct about my cynicism, a little bit of variety would help, world!

*sigh* Anyway, I already knew it wasnt going to work because the culture that animaniacs thrived and parodied doesnt exist anymore and the current culture is too sensentive to be properly parodied. I mean, I could see OG animaniacs doing an Epstein reference (tho subtle) but I cant see the rebooted ones doing since that would obviously push leftists buttons but they will gladly push conservative ones.

For example, why make Trump a cyclops? It feels too random, OG animaniacs had random humor but it usually still had a method to its madness, like the fingerprints scene (suddenly Prince appears but then wacko repeats the punchline and Prince is gone). It was random? Yes but not TOO random to the point it came out of nowhere. The punchline with Trump being a cyclops is childishly obvious, he is a monster! A fat big ugly monster, guys!

Also the mansplaning line...christ, way to make me cringe at one of my favorite opening theme songs.

And it seems Slappy and Minerva arent coming back...the former because aparently she was voiced by one of the original writers and almost none of them are back and the latter because its current year and fuck if we dare make someone sexy.
This is dead on arrival
 
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