🐱 We’ve All Failed Amber Heard

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As the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard defamation case plays out in a Virginia court, a separate trial has been playing out online, where the verdict skews heavily towards Depp being the “real victim.”


For weeks, memes and reels calling Heard a “liar,” “psychopath,” and a “manipulator” have congested social media. They make fun of her hair, outfits, and facial expressions, and at times even wish her dead. On TikTok alone, the #justiceforjohnnydepp hashtag has been viewed 16.3 billion times—compared to only 53.6 million for #justiceforamberheard (not even close to 1 percent as many).




Today, that judgement is in our group chats, at the bar, and may even come up over dinner, and it’s a reality that in some ways has already declared Heard the loser—even if she wins in court.


“If anything it'll probably be worse for her if she wins,” Mandi Gray, a gender justice expert and researcher with the University of Calgary, told VICE News. “The public humiliation is, in my opinion, going to increase.”

At least some of the pro-Johnny content comes from right-wing site Daily Wire, founded by Ben Shapiro. (VICE World News found how Daily Wire spent thousands of dollars on pro-Depp advertising.) But there have also been rumors that trolls and bots are rapidly spreading content in defence of the Pirates of the Caribbean actor. Then there are the content creators who have started commenting on the trial to gain followers and clout.

The overwhelming deluge of content targeting Heard is itself abusive and humiliating, experts say, and it’s partly why we, collectively as a society, are failing Heard.

“I don't think we've only failed Amber Heard. I think we've failed all women who've experienced gendered violence,” Gray said.


Regardless of whether you believe Depp or Heard or both, many of us are piling onto the abuse Heard has repeatedly said she’s experienced: by creating—or actively consuming or sharing—anti-Heard vitriol. It’s also why Depp, in some ways, has already won, experts say.


“It takes a village,” said gender justice advocate Farrah Khan. “It’s not just about the person causing harm; it’s about the people around who enable, uphold, and encourage it.”

All this is taking place while we’re still days away from a verdict in the Fairfax courtroom, where Depp has launched a $50 million defamation suit against Heard in response to a 2018 Washington Post op-ed that Heard wrote about her experiences with domestic assault. The piece didn’t name Depp, but the Oscar-nominated actor maintains it’s “plainly” about him and that it cost him his career. Heard is counter-suing Depp for $100 million in damages. Both Heard and Depp accuse the other of being abusive while maintaining their own innocence.
For weeks, the court has heard harrowing testimonies from both actors, who’ve produced images, audio recordings, and private text messages to make their cases. In one string of texts, Depp said he wanted to “burn” Heard and that he would “fuck her burnt corpse” to “make sure she is dead.” In an audio recording played repeatedly for the jury, Heard tells Depp that she “hit” him, but didn’t “punch” him. “I did not fucking deck you,” she says in the audio. Pictures of Heard with a bruised and swollen face, and hair ripped out of her scalp, accompany several allegations of abuse she says she experienced at the hands of Depp.


Depp says Heard cut off the tip of his finger during the infamous Australia fight. (At the time, he told people he did it himself.) It was during that fight that Heard says Depp repeatedly threw glass and penetrated her with a bottle. She told the court Depp held a broken bottle to her jaw and told her he’d “carve up” her face.
Comments accompanying trial livestreams have made light of Depp’s violent texts (“lol Johnny”) and honor his allegations, while they call the images of Heard’s injuries “photoshop” and spam her testimony with puke emojis.

Even people who say they’ve experienced abuse themselves have expressed their disdain for Heard. But, as Khan said, we’re only experts when it comes to our own experiences.

“That doesn’t make you an expert on domestic violence as a whole because it happens in so many different ways,” Khan said.

“You'll have more perpetrators—and more violence.”

Several gender-based justice advocates have told VICE News that Heard should be believed, and note that defamation cases are very often used by abusers to further control and coerce survivors.

Gray, who has studied the phenomenon and is being sued herself in Canada for tweeting about sexual assault allegations, said such legal cases are a “way to publicly humiliate people, women primarily, and gain control.” That’s partly because when you’re sued, you have to hand over a large part of your life: text messages between friends and families, emails, and more, that are then scrutinized in court.



“It’s a very invasive process to go through,” Gray said, adding that by initiating defamation suits, perpetrators can also attempt to “flip the script.”


“This case is not the exception. It’s the rule,” Gray said.

But even if Heard is lying, would it justify the hate swarming our social media feeds? “Wouldn’t you still say it’s not OK—I don’t want her harmed, I don’t want her hurt?” Khan said.

The vitriolic comments are already causing a silencing effect. Some readers have reached out to say they’re too scared to speak out against Depp because they don’t want “his horde” attacking them.
Soon, it will silence domestic violence victims and survivors themselves, said Jaclyn Friedman, a feminist writer and founder of EducateUS, a group dedicated to improving sex education in the U.S.

“You’re just going to see fewer victims speaking up. Some victims will think that they can’t even leave because they've seen their friends and families attack Heard and support Depp,” Friedman said.
“What all of that means is you'll have more perpetrators—and more violence.”
This would likely play out even worse for other women, especially women of color or poorer women. Heard’s sexuality has been weaponized throughout her fallout with Depp: tabloids have painted her as promiscuous and imply she cheated on Depp—all because she has dated both men and women. But the Aquaman star is also white and conventionally attractive.




So, if we treat a cis white woman so poorly, “what are we saying to the rest?” Khan said. “I think about Megan Thee Stallion… I think about FKA Twigs.”
Heard’s case also has the potential to shape how young people understand sexual and domestic violence. About one-third of TikTok users in the U.S. are between the ages of 10 and 19 and more than half are women. They’ll undoubtedly see Depp-Heard content. Many of these users will experience sexual and domestic violence themselves, Khan pointed out.

“This is an issue we should be taking seriously because this is one of the biggest public misinformation campaigns we've ever seen about domestic violence,” Khan said. “This case is shaping how young people view domestic violence.”


Khan also said the way this is all playing out will create a “how to harm” playbook, too.

So, while a “win in court is better than a loss,” Friedman said, “the message has been sent to not just current victims, but future victims that you need to be willing to go through public humiliation, character assassination, and retraumatization.”

The court case is expected to wrap up Friday, with a verdict expected soon after. But as Friedman pointed out, “a lot of the damage has already been done.”

In the meantime, Heard and Depp’s legal teams are tying up their cases now in their final attempts to sway the jury. But eerily prescient text messages written by Depp years ago suggest that what’s going on outside of the courtroom is already going his way.

“I have no mercy, no fear and not an ounce of emotion, or what I once thought was love for the gold digging, low level, dime a dozen, mushy, pointless dangling overused flappy fish market… I’m so fucking happy she wants to go to fight this out!!! She will hit the wall hard!!!” Depp wrote in 2016, presumably about Heard after she filed for a restraining order against him.

“She’s begging for total global humiliation... She’s gonna get it.”
 
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Herd's acting in the court room is worse than her acting in Aquaman. I guess with a movie she has the benefit of an editor. It would be really easy to feel bad for both of them, as both are clearly damaged people, but Herd comes across as the kind of damaged that doesn't even know they are broken.
 
My favorite thing I've seen in comments is that it's "Johnny's people" putting out all the positive press on him in regards to this.

:story:

Nigga, everybody sees what a psycho bitch she is, it's not hard. If anything that's her people trying to run defense... poorly.

Maybe Amber just has a lot of socks on social media?
It's simply dog-piling. In 2016 to 2018, the media dogpiled Johnny Depp. Now it's Amber's turn because we finally got to examine her ridiculous claims. This isn't anything new. The exact same thing happened with Juicy Smooyeah, the Covington kids, etc. The media jumped to ridiculous, likely pre-conceived conclusions, and ran with it until people came forward and blew those conclusions to kingdom come.
 
You think she's trying to act out the liberation from her own trauma by vicariously participating in this court case? I'm reminded of a description I heard long ago of how some rape victims seek to liberate themselves from their trauma by acting out a proper handling of the crime... with someone who may have had sexual contact with them, but certainly did not rape them.

That might be something that someone made up to argue that people should be soft on those who falsely accuse, but I'm reminded of that a bit in your description.
She very well may be. I definitely think she would see a victory for Heard as self-vindication by proxy.

If it does. The requirements for defamation are more narrow than the normie would think or want, and the court is a strange thing outside of that-- whether it's the jury or judge that's appointed finder of fact.

...that, and Heard is likely to appeal even if she loses. I bet your friend will latch on to that.
Yeah, you're right; I should have included the "if." That Heard might prevail doesn't seem probable, but that doesn't mean it's not possible.

Articles like these are incredible. It's a fascinating glimpse into the mind of a mental patient with no doctor to measure their progress and no ward to go back to. It doesn't cross their mind even once that Amber could be lying, bad & wrong. All that writing, and no crack in the armor, no hypotheticals, no testing their ideas to make sure they're structurally sound and stand up to scrutiny. Downies have better reasoning and critical thinking than this.
This is how I feel about most opinion pieces like this. Between troons, genderspecials, and parents of trans kids (and their willing handmaidens); obese women demanding to be seen as desirable as the world is re-made to fit them; the appalling racism of the Anti-racist crowd; the apologists for MAPs; and the advocates for pod-dwelling, bug-eating, and soy-drinking in all their literal and figurative forms—I feel like I took a wrong turn into an open-air lunatic asylum, where most of the inmates manage to look normal, until they start saying insane things that are utterly detached from reality.

She's fucked. She's already lost quite heavily in the court of public opinion. After today, I have my doubts that she will EVER be given a decently large role in a major movie and she will most likely lose the case. The awful closing statement was the icing on the shitcake of her entire case.
She's 36 years old, so even if, by some miracle, she was able to rehabilitate her image and regain a decent reputation, there would still be no large roles in major movies for her. And she's not much of an actress, so she'd get passed over for the best character roles.

But she did go take a course to become a sommelier, so when she enters her future career in hospitality, she will at least get paid better than she would for waiting tables at Denny's. So there's that.

And yeah, I do think she's going to lose, because that closing—oof. Elaine was apparently seen crying in the ladies' room after it was all over, and I'd like to think it was from acute embarrassment.

Herd's acting in the court room is worse than her acting in Aquaman. I guess with a movie she has the benefit of an editor. It would be really easy to feel bad for both of them, as both are clearly damaged people, but Herd comes across as the kind of damaged that doesn't even know they are broken.
LOL, one of the witnesses was a Warner Brothers studio exec who denied that there was any plan to recast Heard's role in Aquaman 2 due to her total lack of chemistry with Jason Momoa. He went on to brag about all the wonderful things that were done editorially to squeak out a passable semblance of chemistry between them by piecing together the best fragments they could find among all the footage, adding visual effects to enhance the mood of their scenes, and putting the right music over them. It was a polite way of saying, "We know she sucks, but we've already got her optioned for three movies, so we'll just make do with her, even though it will mean extra work in post, until her contract runs out."

That said, I doubt her character will even be included in Aquaman 3, and the producers will be free to find a new actress to fill that role for Aquaman 4.
 
lol, I haven't been following this at all and couldn't care less about Johnny Depp (or most actors), and even I know the man was done wrong big time and deserves the world after what he's gone through. Even Amber Heard's Wikipedia photo showcases an insufferable smugness:
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I didn't even know who she was before this. Some capeshit actress, I guess?
An unremarkable actress who is even pretty in an unremarkable way. I have never had any use for her.
 
It's simply dog-piling. In 2016 to 2018, the media dogpiled Johnny Depp. Now it's Amber's turn because we finally got to examine her ridiculous claims. This isn't anything new. The exact same thing happened with Juicy Smooyeah, the Covington kids, etc. The media jumped to ridiculous, likely pre-conceived conclusions, and ran with it until people came forward and blew those conclusions to kingdom come.
I feel like some of the hate for Depp is understandable because people typically don't realize how fucked up the courts can be or how fucked up the UK trial was.

It's probably why Depp wanted so badly for this to be televised. You could actually have the entire world see exactly what all evidence was coming out, how credible the various people looked, and so on.

There's also the problem that defamation cases are notoriously difficult to win, since it comes down to having to having to prove the person knew they were actively lying to hurt you. In Depp's case, even if he loses he still will win in the sense that he'll have gotten it out that the allegations were bullshit.
 
Yes, we all failed Amber Heard. We all repeated the lie that she punched Johnny. She wasn't punching him, she was hitting him.
And we mocked her for saying that she was abused to the point that she would have received injuries that would have severely debilitated any normal person but did not seek or need medical attention and instead used Amica cream to cover up the wounds/bruises
 
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Thought this article was about amberlynn reed

I was excited to read about normie journos sperging over a fat woman
 
Articles like these are the death rattle of woke zeitgeist. The post-American culture of the 2040s will be a rehash of the 1950s, with women in the kitchen and everyone wearing suits on planes, inshallah!
 
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Articles like these are the death rattle of woke zeitgeist. The post-American culture of the 2040s will be a rehash of the 1950s, with women in the kitchen and everyone wearing suits on planes, inshallah!
We can only hope.

But seriously, anyone who has watched this case and defends Amber? Like holy fucking shit. Check that retard out for a brain tumor. Like, I don't care about Johnny Depp considering he is a retarded privileged Hollywood Bugman, but this case has shown clear as day that Amber Herd is a lying bitch and a really terrible person.
 
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I've followed it closely and even watched their (amber heard and Johnny Depps) whole testimonies and can just say, watch it or at least snippets of it. it is the most hilarious attempt of a raging histrionic BPD narcissistic to gaslight not only to the jury, the judge and lawyers but due to live streaming to everyone who was giving a shit. and attempt to gaslight about stuff that can be proven objectively through earlier interviews by herself or through witness testimonials.

even that her sister was lying was proven.

and this Vasquez lawyer absolutely shredded her lies to pieces. it was wonderful watching that bitch studder.

no one failed her. if anyone "we" failed Johnny Depp by just accepting her domestic violence claims. his career was dead.

this bitch dug her own grave.

only Elon musk can save her now.
 
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This article have not enough of human fecal matter.
Probably the good thing.
 
The Heard verdict got under the skins of SJWs because it went against one of their core principles: Victims cannot be victimizers, and victimizers cannot be victims.

Heard is a victim because she lacks privilege, at least compared to Depp. She is a victim because of her identity, her actions are immaterial. Any abuse she dishes out doesn't count as abuse because privilege.
 
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