Culture What is really going on with Gen Alpha boys?

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By Halima Jibril

At the start of the year, the Financial Times reported that a new gender divide is emerging worldwide. While there has been consistent debate over whether Gen Z is the most progressive generation in history or the most conservative, there was a point in the latter part of the 2010s when many believed that the world needed to change and that Gen Z as a whole would be the ones to make it better. But this new research tells a less idealistic story.

Through an analysis of General Social Surveys and Election Studies in Korea, Germany, the US and the UK, data journalist John Burn-Murdoch found that in the UK, Gen Z women are 25 percentage points more liberal than Gen Z men. In Germany and the US, Gen Z women are 30 percentage points more liberal than the men in their generation. The voting patterns of young men around the world also highlight their more conservative leanings: In the Polish elections last year, almost half of the men aged 18 to 21 voted for the far-right Confederation party, and in South Korea, young men largely voted for the right-wing People Power party in 2022.

Many believe this divide is the result of backlash towards feminist movements such as #MeToo and the fact that popular feminism, while still challenged, was able to enter mainstream discourse successfully. Even though backlash towards feminist progression is normal, as Susan Faludi wrote in her 1991 text Backlash: The Undeclared War Against American Women, acknowledging its normalcy should not make us complacent. These statistics are worrying, as those with conservative ideals are more likely to display violent anti-women, anti-immigration and racist attitudes openly, and there is a possibility that the divide will grow further.

As soon as I heard this news, I immediately thought about Gen Alpha boys (born between 2010 and 2025) and Gen Z’s youngest members (often lumped in with Gen Alpha). A generation already described as illiterate, lazy, rude and ignorant, not just by the usual suspects (Gen X and Baby Boomers) but also by older members of Gen Z, who not too long ago suffered the same critiques from older generations. While there is an unnecessary moral panic surrounding Gen Alpha, worries about how they understand their gender, the gender of others and gender roles are rightful causes for concern. Just this week, the leader of the UK’s largest education union called for an independent inquiry into the rise of sexism and misogyny among boys and young men, describing it as “a huge issue” in schools. With the prevalence of misogynistic male influencers on social media, many believe that Gen Alpha boys are “not going to be OK” and are already “doomed.”

But are they really doomed? Or is what’s going on with Gen Alpha boys more complex than the pessimistic picture being painted?

My son is 10, and when I asked him if he knew who Andrew Tate was he said although the had never watched him, he heard some of his classmates talking about him a few times. That day I had to have a 1 hour conversation with him about how dangerous that man is.

— Mauvaise Pute 🧚🏾‍♀️ (@jenny_gxo) June 20, 2023

“I believe an element of this is unprecedented,” explains John*, a 23-year-old working at an educational charity. “[One of my] colleagues’ parents has been a teacher for decades and says she sees more misogyny and homophobia in schools now than ever before. There are waves of online content reaching young men, and nobody, including us, knows exactly what to do.” Andrew Tate, who is now facing extradition to the UK over rape and human trafficking claims, is still one of the main misogynistic influencers that John hears young boys speak about. “They regurgitate ideas and phrases of his. These sometimes are shown through their idea of what a man should be, involving being a ‘Top G,’ ‘providing for your family.’ They make fun of women and their appearance regularly. People who counter their ideas, especially women, are seen as dangerous and liars.”

One of the reasons young men find themselves so attracted to Tate, as John highlights, is because he teaches them how to exist in the world. In her book Collapse Feminism, writer and video essayist Alice Cappelle argues that while some young men do go out of their way to look for misogynistic content online, others are simply looking for self-improvement tips. Since influencers like Tate and Jordan Peterson brand themselves as “self-help” gurus, selling courses on how to be a ‘Top G’, attract the right kind of women and achieve financial freedom,
impressionable boys and young men believe they’ve discovered the secret to performing their gender “correctly” and succeeding in life.

“Tate will become cringe eventually. The problem is the trail of misogynistic destruction he has left behind” – Issa

It’s easy to put sole blame on individuals like Tate (or even on pornography, as the teachers’ union leaders are doing) for the rise in misogyny among young men, but we already live in an incredibly gendered society. Even when we don’t think we’re pushing a gendered ideology, most of the time, we are, and young people internalise that way of thinking very quickly. For example, in her book, The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity and Love, bell hooks highlights how mothers can be some of the biggest perpetrators of patriarchy. “The single mom who insists that her boy child, ‘be a man’ is not anti-patriarchal; she is enforcing patriarchal will,” she writes. 23-year-old history teacher Lauren, who has been a victim of misogynistic catcalling at her school, similarly agrees with hooks’ sentiments. “I think many issues within school, including children’s perception of gender, come from the parents at home. So regardless of what we can do in school, I don’t think this has a great impact unless we educate their parents, which is extremely hard to do.”

28-year-old Issa*, an English teacher in an inner city secondary school, believes our focus should not be on individuals like Tate because teenagers are incredibly fickle. “Tate will become cringe eventually. The problem is the trail of misogynistic destruction he has left behind.” This is where charities like Beyond Equality come into play. Founded in 2016, they facilitate workshops in schools, universities, workplaces, sports teams, and other community groups, focusing on boys and men. They explore topics such as physical and mental well-being, gender-based violence, and healthy relationships. “We help them understand their position in the patriarchy and support them in contributing to a more gender-equitable world,” Tomara Garrod, volunteer and community manager of Beyond Equality, tells Dazed.

“Teenagers are used to being told by adults what they should believe, how they should behave, and being punished when they don’t follow these rules. But many are more than willing to have a sensitive, nuanced conversation as long as they feel they’ll be genuinely listened to and respected” – Tomara Garrod

Beyond Equality believes that one of the best ways to support boys who find themselves drawn to misogynistic content is by speaking with them honestly. “To actually have transformative, liberatory conversations about misogyny, we have to be able to face it openly and without judgement,” explains Garrod. “Teenagers are used to being told by adults what they should believe, how they should behave, and being punished when they don’t follow these rules. But many are more than willing to have a sensitive, nuanced conversation as long as they feel they’ll be genuinely listened to and respected. Many engage far more critically with the content they consume than we might assume. What they need is a space to engage and encourage this critical thinking, one rooted in curiosity, compassion, and justice.”

The work done by organisations like Beyond Equality is much more impactful than just placing “positive” male influencers in schools, as Labour proposed in February. While the idea is nice on paper, as Cappelle argues in Collapse Feminism, “the goal should not be to switch one type of masculinity (toxic) to another type of masculinity (healthy/positive), but rather to reject the idea that the formation of one’s identity, meaning one’s value system and tastes, can only mediate through a fixed gender expression.” In other words: “it is time to imagine the formation of a man’s identity outside of the constraints of masculinity and outside of the constraints of a fixed definition.”

It takes all of us, not just teachers and those who work in charities, to dismantle and challenge patriarchal culture, and we must do it together if we do not want the ideological gender divide to deepen.
 
The promised liberal utopia is coming. When the Gen Alpha boys reach the age of majority, they will look like this. Don't call it a grave. Call it the future the Liberals chose. For themselves, and for you. Because you didn't stop them, did you.

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Yeah, I could see them dressing like dipshits with their underwear on the outside.
 
I don't know if it's a woman thing or a middle-class thing, but there is a distinct subset of people that lack power but soothe themselves on being society's hall monitors.
It's a leftist thing.

Leftists always judge success not by people uplifted to success, but, by number of successful people scalped and brought down to baseline "equity" .

Even when they set out to improve the lives of "Group A" they can't help but find it easier, faster and more pleasing to their sensibilities to take groups B through Z and pick them apart until they're no better off than "A" was.

From a logistics standpoint, it's always easier and more economical to fuck up a person's life than fix it.
 
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Scapegoat. I'm certain that he has some fans, but damned if I've ever encountered any, and the only time I've ever really seen him brought up in conversation is by screaming leftists and feminists online.
Reminds me of Q-Anon. The people most informed about what it’s supposedly all about are libs. The based boomers I know had all kinds of ideas, especially during Covid, but they never heard of “Q” and the assorted prophecies.
 
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So there's a genuine antifeminist/reactionary backlash in South Korea, but aside from that the real story should be young women veering wildly towards the left over the past decade. I'm sure that unlike the incels and tatertots these increasingly radicalized women will have no negative effects on society whatsoever.
How about you leave the 10 year olds alone and let them be kids? You're just going to make more conservatives by attacking them like this.
My son is 10, and when I asked him if he knew who Andrew Tate was he said although the had never watched him, he heard some of his classmates talking about him a few times. That day I had to have a 1 hour conversation with him about how dangerous that man is.

— Mauvaise Pute 🧚🏾‍♀️ (@jenny_gxo) June 20, 2023
Idk why you'd think that? I'm sure a 31yo single mom who seems spend her time on twitter complaining about disloyal men and porn addiction is the best person to give hour-long lectures about Andrew Tate. It's a safe bet that her son will mature into a well-adjusted young man.
 
It's a leftist thing.

Leftists always judge success not by people uplifted to success, but, by number of successful people scalped and brought down to baseline "equity" .

Even when they set out to improve the lives of "Group A" they can't help but find it easier, faster and more pleasing to their sensibilities to take groups B through Z and pick them apart until they're no better off than "A" was.
It's also a woman thing. If everything else is relatively ugly, they look better by comparison. So if they tear down every other group, "group A" won't feel so bad.
 
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So there's a genuine antifeminist/reactionary backlash in South Korea, but aside from that the real story should be young women veering wildly towards the left over the past decade. I'm sure that unlike the incels and tatertots these increasingly radicalized women will have no negative effects on society whatsoever.
It's called propaganda.
Idk why you'd think that? I'm sure a 31yo single mom who seems spend her time on twitter complaining about disloyal men and porn addiction is the best person to give hour-long lectures about Andrew Tate. It's a safe bet that her son will mature into a well-adjusted young man.
I mean Tate is a certified Lolcow sex abuser. That said you shouldn't be talking to him at 10. kids need to be worrying about friends and school and shit, and how many chocolate milk cartons they can collect at lunch. Id just say hes a idiot and for the kid to tell his friends that.
 
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So there's a genuine antifeminist/reactionary backlash in South Korea, but aside from that the real story should be young women veering wildly towards the left over the past decade. I'm sure that unlike the incels and tatertots these increasingly radicalized women will have no negative effects on society whatsoever.

i remember a few years ago someone on the forum tried very hard to convince me that young women being deranged leftists was just my incel chud imagination and had no basis in reality lol
might even have been null himself, dont remember exactly
anyway, with each passing year i feel more and more vindicated because it's clearly true and that guy was just coping
 
Is Tate really that popular or is he just the only scapegote the left has when it comes to this kind of shit?
if it wasn't tate they'd blame some good goy like Jordan peterson or just men in general. They can't fathom this is just the consequences of their own actions creating this environment that lets pieces of shit like tate have the influence he does.
 
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If heterosexual males realized that they're the only demographic capable of serious armed combat, their lots in life would be greatly improved.
This is why feminists will never, ever stop trying to grind boys into the ground.

They know the only reason they have rights is because we decided to give them rights and they will eternally seethe about it.
 
This thread is great. In 2 mere pages the mis-definitions of what feminism is abound at every corner.

Notably written by the imbeciles this article relates to - stupid young men.

If this this thread was about on-line gaming there wouldn’t be an mis-definition anywhere.
 
i remember a few years ago someone on the forum tried very hard to convince me that young women being deranged leftists was just my incel chud imagination and had no basis in reality lol
might even have been null himself, dont remember exactly
anyway, with each passing year i feel more and more vindicated because it's clearly true and that guy was just coping
these people have clearly never been to a college campus or tried an honest to god political discussion with a real life woman
they all go down the way a conversation in the internet with one does
 
South Korea's antifeminism comes from the fact that it is run by a couple of deranged feminist cultists in some absolutely insane manhwa story. The tate hate is because he encourages the 90% of undesirables to dare approach women and shoot their shot. Also hes a disgusting nigger.
 
This thread is great. In 2 mere pages the mis-definitions of what feminism is abound at every corner.

Notably written by the imbeciles this article relates to - stupid young men.

If this this thread was about on-line gaming there wouldn’t be an mis-definition anywhere.
whatever academic definitions you are dreaming about are irrelevant
what is relevant is what women do IRL, that is what actually defines feminism in practice

South Korea's antifeminism comes from the fact that it is run by a couple of deranged feminist cultists in some absolutely insane manhwa story. The tate hate is because he encourages the 90% of undesirables to dare approach women and shoot their shot. Also hes a disgusting nigger.
i've read bits and pieces about that, but because i don't speak korean i could never really get into in-depth real information about it
i think it went back to this woman who was close to the president at the time, and also the daughter of some notorious cult leader
 
Is Tate really that popular or is he just the only scapegote the left has when it comes to this kind of shit?
he is a scapegoat... gen alpha doesnt turn into gay pimps.
they are just normal kids that want a fast car and a hot bitch and thats illegal now.
they would even settle for nice tits in video games and BBQ with the guys at the weekend, but well thats illegal too.
Globo homos war on masculinity AND the economy has lead to legions of little edgar friendlys running around.
 
It's real neato that this new brand of radical political correctness and exaggerated grievance culture that makes young men afraid to be young men is less than ten years old, yet it's the boys that are ackshually the problem.

This thread is great. In 2 mere pages the mis-definitions of what feminism is abound at every corner.

Notably written by the imbeciles this article relates to - stupid young men.

If this this thread was about on-line gaming there wouldn’t be an mis-definition anywhere.
Tell us the one about how feminism is just about equality between the sexes again. Tell us that the radfems that actually influence public policy are just a vocal minority again. Good joke.
 
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