Off-Topic What is YOUR fundamental issue with troons outside of their batshittery.

[FinnSven]

10 years... 10 fucking years i altar boyed.. and i never got so much as a handjob!

You probably didn't wear the robes right.

 

[Crusty Old Sock]

If trannies were just weird people who want to dress horribly and fuck their bodies up maybe I wouldn't give a shit. I'm not too keen on their insistence on congregating in online communities and using them to groom kids though. Lame and gay pl shit but I was acquainted with some gross dudes as a kid online way back in the 2000s and the tranny groomer stuff is way too familiar.

 

[Marcus Tullius Cicero]

The lack of self-awareness among them is to be expected, but it's still annoying to see.

An FtM I'm somewhat acquainted with complained about getting cat-called today. Her response to it seems like the kind of thing Nice Guys would say after the fact, as she went into detail how she would have liked to grab the man by the crotch and say "mine's bigger" (referring to the packer she keeps in her jeans); or take him by the head and shove his face in her crotch. The irony of having to stuff her pants was lost on her.

The fact that FtMs maintain their catty behavior despite apparently identifying as men really shows just how incapable they are of embodying that gender.

 

[AnOminous]

10 years... 10 fucking years i altar boyed.. and i never got so much as a handjob!

What a fucking gyp that whole thing was.

They said it was all about buggery but instead it was just funerals, funerals, funerals.

 

[Canned Ham]

Kiwifarms has got noticeably more Christian recently.

Are Troons and their related degeneracy actually driving people back to the church?

Where do I find a troon-free church, because some of them seem to be embracing the alphabet crowd.

 

[Mad_Dog]

Where do I find a troon-free church, because some of them seem to be embracing the alphabet crowd.

European traditional Catholicism (FSSP, SSPX, ICRSS, IBP) is the last standing rock of sanity in this world. Even though, from what I've heard, some American parishes have managed to make it weird and twisted by focusing on superficial things, I'm sure there are some fine trad parishes in the US.
That said, joining solely for political and identity reasons is ok, but staying for those reasons is missing the point.

 

[Crepidodera fulvicornis]

Where do I find a troon-free church, because some of them seem to be embracing the alphabet crowd.

Orthodox churches are, by definition, orthodox, if you really need one in your life.

 

[YourFriendlyLurker 2.0]

I have no troubles with adult people butchering their own bodies for their own money. But I have problems with:

1) Lie. If I see an ogre in a dress, I am gonna say "he" regardless of the ogre's feelingz. Also, there are only two sexes, everything else is a lie.
2) Using taxpayer's money.
3) Getting kids involved. Nuff said.

 

[Aunt Carol]

If it's a medical condition, it should have criteria for diagnosis and be working on objectively-gathered data on effective treatment.

If it's a metaphysical condition, treatment should be paid out-of-pocket.

PICK ONE

 

[Type93Torpedo]

I wouldn't care if they just pretended they're a woman in the comfort of their own home. But they take that shit in public, where others have to see it. That's when it becomes problematic. I don't want to vomit in public.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Where do I find a troon-free church, because some of them seem to be embracing the alphabet crowd.

Africa.
Most of the Sub Saharan African Churches have basically schismed quietly because of the Western Churches embracing faggot and troon shit.
African Churches remain based holdouts against Heresy.

 

[PointOfNoReturnPoint]

Africa.
Most of the Sub Saharan African Churches have basically schismed quietly because of the Western Churches embracing faggot and troon shit.
African Churches remain based holdouts against Heresy.

Africa in general doesnt like what they see when it coems to troons.

 

[Crepidodera fulvicornis]

Where do I find a troon-free church, because some of them seem to be embracing the alphabet crowd.

Or make a jump and join the Wild West of angry atheists who by definition don't believe in gendered souls and mind-body dichotomy. We have Dawkins and Boghossian, and sweet Julia Sweeney and bunch of others Not_Reddit_Atheist.
Just pure evolution with simple answers and honest “we don’t know” when where is none.

But enough with the pitch, I can sympathize with the yearning to believe in power that higher than I. I just can’t accept it. Once you let go of illusion, there is no coming back, retransitioners be damned.

Okay, sorry,over.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Agreed with most of the thing said on this thread so far. One thing I will add is that troons are massive self centered killjoys and become fun polices with every community that they enter in whenever they are not trying to groom minors.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

I find it interesting that troons feel the need to wear trans color everything and include trans flags in their profiles.

It seems like a guilt complex. They know they'll never be the sex they're pretending to be, so they feel compelled to mark themselves as a liar so everyone will know, even online.

It's like if gays in Nazi Germany chose to mark themselves with the pink triangles just for fun

 

[supremeautismo]

I’d be repeating everyone here (lying is good! let’s rape kids for justice! smelly!) but I have a bit of a different perspective in that I’ve had/have several troons in my life who are genuinely hardworking, funny, honest people. (Libfag cities— it’s shocking how many people are troons. It reflects Twitter/X 1:1.)

My biggest issue is how they allow rapists and violent predators in their friend groups and political representatives because the Nazis can’t “win.”

I’ve known 8 different troons now who were kicked out of different LGBT (plus mayo— these people are always white) friend groups/jobs because they were serial rapists, and usually raping other troons.

After the first job I nearly got fired from for speaking up after one troon groped me, I just stopped talking.

I’d beg and plead the other troons who didn’t annoy the shit out of me to stop cowtowing to them, but they were always either too afraid to, or became irate if you suggested it. (You can guess where the TiMs VS the TiFs perspectives lied.)

Even my non-troon majority friends who were mutuals would just sort of shrug and go, “Well, we can’t speak for their community, power + privilege!!1!”

I have very few LGB (I hate this fucking acronym for the record) friends now. Have one tranny friend from middle school. She got the tit chop and seems happy enough about it. Has a girlfriend (a real girl!) and grows strawberries. Nice gal. She chose to leave the hustle and bustle and is much happier now despite mutilating herself.

I just got kinda tired of hanging out with rapists.

 

[TruffleSpark]

I’d be repeating everyone here (lying is good! let’s rape kids for justice! smelly!) but I have a bit of a different perspective in that I’ve had/have several troons in my life who are genuinely hardworking, funny, honest people. (Libfag cities— it’s shocking how many people are troons. It reflects Twitter/X 1:1.)

My biggest issue is how they allow rapists and violent predators in their friend groups and political representatives because the Nazis can’t “win.”

I’ve known 8 different troons now who were kicked out of different LGBT (plus mayo— these people are always white) friend groups/jobs because they were serial rapists, and usually raping other troons.

After the first job I nearly got fired from for speaking up after one troon groped me, I just stopped talking.

I’d beg and plead the other troons who didn’t annoy the shit out of me to stop cowtowing to them, but they were always either too afraid to, or became irate if you suggested it. (You can guess where the TiMs VS the TiFs perspectives lied.)

Even my non-troon majority friends who were mutuals would just sort of shrug and go, “Well, we can’t speak for their community, power + privilege!!1!”

I have very few LGB (I hate this fucking acronym for the record) friends now. Have one tranny friend from middle school. She got the tit chop and seems happy enough about it. Has a girlfriend (a real girl!) and grows strawberries. Nice gal. She chose to leave the hustle and bustle and is much happier now despite mutilating herself.

I just got kinda tired of hanging out with rapists.

The trans community has such a strong culture of toxic positivity that even the ones who aren't predators feel compelled to run cover for the ones who are. So they end up being complicit even if they aren't personally the ones harming people. I think it's because they are terrified that their status as True and Honest men/women could be taken from them at a moments notice. So if they ever do anything that could reduce the standing of someone else in the community, no matter how much of a monster they are, then they are just setting the precedent that someone could do the same to them. And even the mildest possibility of that happening cannot be allowed.

 

[FinnSven]

I find it interesting that troons feel the need to wear trans color everything and include trans flags in their profiles.

It seems like a guilt complex. They know they'll never be the sex they're pretending to be, so they feel compelled to mark themselves as a liar so everyone will know, even online.

It's like if gays in Nazi Germany chose to mark themselves with the pink triangles just for fun

I disagree somewhat.

It’s like if gays in the 70s chose to mark themselves with pink triangles for fun.
If they had in Nazi germany it would have meant they got taken by the Nazis immediately.

This is what Troons want people to think, that Nazis/trump voters are going to take them and put them in camps.

70s gays wanted to be recognized, but not treated differently. Pink triangles on display would have the wrong effect.

Troons want to be marked out, and given more rights, especially the right to ruin the lives of anyone they don’t like.

 

[N Space]

I hate people that deny reality. Given that the troon philosophy is to deny the reality of their sex and make others to do the same, it was inevitable I wound up hating them.

 

[thebigdream]

I'm probably more allowing than most of this forum re: trans people, maybe because I don't deal with any IRL, but beyond my tolerance I just don't see the point of transitioning given it is literally impossible to become the opposite sex. If there are things that the other gender do that they like, they're free to do it too. If they would like to speak a certain way, they can speak that way. If they want to play dress up, they can play dress up, drag queens have existed for centuries. But they have to stay cognisant that, at least as far as modern science goes, they are stuck as they are and must make peace with it, just as everyone makes peace with aspects of themselves that are not ideal.

It seems surreal to me that an idea like 'I don't feel like I'm in the right body' is not a call to help people accept their body.