Off-Topic What is YOUR fundamental issue with troons outside of their batshittery.

I hate how everyone is flattened into identity avatars to be neatly slotted and sorted. And everyone other than the troon gets turned into a set piece or supporting character, that only exists in order to cheer on, facilitate, or reward the troon in some way.
A lot of them do have a bad case of "main character syndrome". When I see a troon rant about how bad other peoples "genital preferences" make them feel I can't help but feel like they just view other people as tools to realise their own self actualisation. idk if the lack of theory of mind is connected to the fact that many of them are autists. I have a touch of the 'tism myself, but I was still able to learn empathy. It never occurred to me to troon out so I wouldn't be expected to do that though.
They also tend to veer off into revolutionary/liberation hard left crazy land, while also being people largly incapable of fighting anyone but women and the elderly. Their weird utopian idea of what the future should be like is a shallow pothead's half remembered what-if scenario detached from how anything would actually work.
As someone who considers themselves left wing at least by Kiwifarms standards (admittedly that is a bit like being the worlds tallest midget) I find that twitter troon socialism is just so shallow. Sure they are far more radical than me at least as far as their surface level politics go. But it dissolves the moment a traditional left wing villain gives them the attention they want.
We never hear shit about the ones who pass and dedicate their lives to passing.

So yeah. The ones who don't pass have to make noise.
Troons are so good at parasitically attaching themselves to communities and taking them over from within and then turning them into monuments to their own ego. Part of the reason I feel sorry for the truscums is they were the first group this happened to. They were people who were self aware enough to know that they were mentally ill and they viewed transition as a treatment to that illness (whether this treatment actually works is debateable, but that's another post). And they got a knife in the back for their efforts to normalise transitioning and have it be accepted by wider society. I'm sure creepy AGPs/AAPs and attention seeking narcissists always existed in the trans community. But as far as I can tell they didn't become the mainstream until the social cost of transitioning had been lowered by the actual dysphorics who fought hard for that. And if the bubble bursts it's going to be the dysphorics who pay the price. The troons can just go back to their original gender. But the people with an actual mental illness are going to be stuck.
 
I do realise i am asking too much from this day and age but it's the solution altogether.
If everyone weren't deliberately jerks nor too easily offended, this world would be a much better place.

also:
I think making up modern "ism" words like "racism" or "sexism" was a mistake - it led to the insanity of "woke" today. What should've been done instead was calling stuff that's acutal "discrimination" (and not "discrimination" like "microaggressions") stuff like "being a jerk" instead. That way, the BS idea that people are pigeonholed into categories of "marginalized" or "oppressor" couldn't take root so easily.
 
What other illness is there where the "cure" is affirming their beliefs. When an anorexic is so convinced theyre an obese fatass, despite having a bmi of like 12, do we give them appetite suppressants to affirm their beliefs? Do we let them get liposuction so they can truly feel skinny? Fucking of course not. What about people with BIID, do we allow them to use handicapped resources because they truly feel like they are disabled? Do we allow these people to amputate themselves?
So why is it any different when a guy or girl just FEELS like they are the opposite gender. They feel it in their brain dood!! So instead of saying "No, you were not born in the wrong body" We shove body altering chemicals into them and perform mengele-esque surgeries on them. And they still aren't even the opposite sex at that point, and never will be
"But but the data shows 97% of troons are happy and the 3% that aren't is due to peer pressure or discrimination from family!"Seriously, i hate this BS argument from TRAs where because a large portion of troons(though i question that statistic)are happy living a fantasy that this some how proves they really are the gender they identify with.When did someone's happiness become the truth?I'm sure people who take cocaine or heroin are happy taking drugs so who are you to take it from them?Still, this bizarre idea that because troons are happy that it must mean they really are women and men born into the opposite sex's body is an incredibly odd belief.
 
One of their arguments that particularly annoys me is: A sign on a door never kept any trans person out of that restroom!

Uh, no. In the past, if a man in a dress used the women's restroom, a real woman would run out screaming "Freak!" and then security would beat him bloody and throw his broken body in the street. If he dared try it again, they'd call the police to beat his face in and throw him in jail for being a pervert!
 
I should preface my post by saying that I have issues with the easy access/lack of gatekeeping of cross-sex hormones and sex reassignment surgery, and troons (that is, the obnoxious folk who identify as "trans").

Almost about a year ago I posted in the "When did you hit peak trans and why?" thread about my MtF friend who committed suicide after going through HRT and SRS. While there wasn't any definitive proof that it was the intrusive thoughts persisting after the supposed medical interventions, I strongly suspect that was the case. That was what led me to my stance of "even if a person has (legitimate) gender dysphoria, going on hormones and removing tissue should be the absolute last resort". And this is for people suffering from gender dysphoria, which should be diagnosed after years of observation. This should go right up into adulthood, so teenagers and younger should not be undergoing medical procedures. They're not legally allowed to drink alcohol or smoke, so why on earth should HRT and SRS be an exception?

I firmly believe the majority of troons are people that are looking for clout and adulations expending the least amount of effort possible. Now that the trans identity is a protected class, obnoxious people latch on to it as a shield, and cause the overall reputation of trans people (including the ones that actually have gender dysphoria) to lower. In a way, I suspect it's to keep the identity as oppressed as possible, even though in places like Canada people can be legally penalised for speaking out against it. If a minority truly were oppressed, the government wouldn't be giving two shits about it. These people don't care about people that have gender dysphoria; once it's no longer in fashion to be trans, they'll silently go back to being what they were before until the next trend kicks in, leaving the people whose identity they've appropriated to clean up their shit.
 
If we’re talking about the ones I’ve seen in real life, I have a few reasons I dislike them. A lot of them seem to smell, they’re obnoxious and will bring up sexuality while sounding the same as a third grader trying to tell you what goes on in the girls bathroom. I try not to be mean to them, even the worst spergs, but goddamn they’re nauseating.
 
I grow weary of living in a society built upon a foundation of lies, and the tranny lie is the most egregious of them all. Worse yet, they demand you repeat the lie. Even if you took away all the insanity, the suicidal tendencies, the perversion, the rampant pedophilia, the grooming of confused children into becoming trannies, the self-mutilation, the harmful cross-sex hormones, the invasion of sex segregated spaces, and the fucking totalitarian levels of control they want enforced over speech, they'd still be liars.

How foolish I was to think you could ever adopt a "live and let live" attitude with someone who spits in your face with the boldest lie you've ever heard and expect only obedience in return. Even "one of the good ones" still disrespects you enough to lie to you.
 
For me it’s just “lies” is my big issue.

They lie all the time about how good and awesome there decision is to troon out and I do believe other people get hurt following it.

They can never even entertain the fact that the pills and surgeries they get may just maybe be harmful to them. A lot of them would rather just kill the self’s than say “I fucked up”
 
The way they and their useful idiots conflate their mental illness with morality. If you disagree with them or their stances as being "good" then you are immediately a uber nazi who stomps closeted gay teens to death. Its very tiresome, and makes me predisposed to dislike any of them I encounter.
 
What other illness is there where the "cure" is affirming their beliefs. When an anorexic is so convinced theyre an obese fatass, despite having a bmi of like 12, do we give them appetite suppressants to affirm their beliefs? Do we let them get liposuction so they can truly feel skinny? Fucking of course not. What about people with BIID, do we allow them to use handicapped resources because they truly feel like they are disabled? Do we allow these people to amputate themselves?
So why is it any different when a guy or girl just FEELS like they are the opposite gender. They feel it in their brain dood!! So instead of saying "No, you were not born in the wrong body" We shove body altering chemicals into them and perform mengele-esque surgeries on them. And they still aren't even the opposite sex at that point, and never will be
This is one thing that I genuinely don't understand about why gender dysphoria being declassified as an issue somehow makes it...ok now? The declassification of the chemicals that went through East Palestine didn't change the fact that they were toxic. Someone who believes this argument please tell me how this is any different than just taking something off a list to make things more fluid.
 
What's not to hate? Is there a single positive generalization that could be made about trannies as a group, along the lines of "Jews are good with money" or "Ethiopians dominate distance running"?
I was going to say "some of them sterilize themselves", but those freaks freeze their sperm, so their shit tier genes can possibly be passed on. The 41% isn't a silver lining either, since the 41%, while fun to meme and it makes them seethe, isn't true. These fuckers are no more at risk of suicide than the rest of us, and use those fake ass statistics to claim oppression points.
So, you're right. there literally is none. They aren't good at coding, they suck at art, which is all furry degen shit anyway, they have no style, can't do makeup, can't function with society without acting like retards, they ruin all hobbies, especially nerd and alternative/"goth" ones. I can't think of a positive thing.
 
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