What movie do you think gets overhated too much?

[Dysnomia]

Super Mario Bros. I don't think it's bad at all. They really went in an odd direction and it's nothing like the games. But what were people expecting? The only way it would have worked as a truly faithful adaption would be as an animated film. And maybe they should have just gone that route in the first place. But it's not a bad movie at all really. At least not like people make it out to be.

I also liked Garbage Pail Kids. I agree it's stupid. The theme song is awful. But I enjoyed it. It kind of lost the plot after awhile and the subplot with Tangerine looks like it got mangled somehow. But if you want a weird and gross movie it might be so bad it's good depending on your standards. It's not a complete and total loss. I think with a better plot and writing it would have been thought of a tiny bit more fondly. But the weakest part is how badly it seemed to be cobbled together writing-wise. But the animatronic faces of the Garbage Pail Kids were pretty nice for the time.

 

[ShinjiIkariFapBoy76]

Super Mario Bros. I don't think it's bad at all. They really went in an odd direction and it's nothing like the games. But what were people expecting? The only way it would have worked as a truly faithful adaption would be as an animated film. And maybe they should have just gone that route in the first place. But it's not a bad movie at all really. At least not like people make it out to be.

I also liked Garbage Pail Kids. I agree it's stupid. The theme song is awful. But I enjoyed it. It kind of lost the plot after awhile and the subplot with Tangerine looks like it got mangled somehow. But if you want a weird and gross movie it might be so bad it's good depending on your standards. It's not a complete and total loss. I think with a better plot and writing it would have been thought of a tiny bit more fondly. But the weakest part is how badly it seemed to be cobbled together writing-wise. But the animatronic faces of the Garbage Pail Kids were pretty nice for the time.

The Mario movie's setting gave it a Blade Runner/AKIRA feel to it. And a dystopian society where humans and dinos exist? It's like the show Dinotopia mixed with Jin-Roh

I respect the GPKs movie for one thing: it was the first to coin the term normies.

 

[Ruin]

I think Watchmen gets sucked into a vortex of trendy Snyder hate way too often. It's a perfectly serviceable film and the comic is so complex that no director could have possibly done it perfectly anyway.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

I think Watchmen gets sucked into a vortex of trendy Snyder hate way too often. It's a perfectly serviceable film and the comic is so complex that no director could have possibly done it perfectly anyway.

The problem with the Watchmen movie is going forward Snyder decided every superhero should be Rorschach.

 

[cypocryphy]

Super Mario Bros. I don't think it's bad at all. They really went in an odd direction and it's nothing like the games. But what were people expecting? The only way it would have worked as a truly faithful adaption would be as an animated film. And maybe they should have just gone that route in the first place. But it's not a bad movie at all really. At least not like people make it out to be.

I think it's because of people like the Nostalgia Critic and internet rage culture where everything has to be polarizing. SMB was ok for what it was, an early 90's action/adventure for kids who like video games.

 

[friedshrimp]

I wonder how much has perception of films online have been soiled due to Doug going around yapping "this film sucks, you should hate it". Like I doubt much people would care about Garbage Pail Kids if it wasn't for him.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

I think it's because of people like the Nostalgia Critic and internet rage culture where everything has to be polarizing. SMB was ok for what it was, an early 90's action/adventure for kids who like video games.

No it wasn't. While people in the 90s didn't rage like the internet back then, they either didn't like it or felt confused at what they watched. Even the Flintstones was hated, I remember in WWF Raw the next day Macho Man said on commentary how the best part were the credits.

 

[MysticMisty]

Super Mario Bros. I don't think it's bad at all. They really went in an odd direction and it's nothing like the games. But what were people expecting? The only way it would have worked as a truly faithful adaption would be as an animated film. And maybe they should have just gone that route in the first place. But it's not a bad movie at all really. At least not like people make it out to be.

Funny enough there was a full length anime movie that came out in the mid 80's and it wasn't a very faithful adaptation either. It also, in my opinion, isn't very good and I suspect it wasn't well received.

I do actually like the live action movie though. It's one of my favorite B-movies (despite having a proper budget).

I wonder how much has perception of films online have been soiled due to Doug going around yapping "this film sucks, you should hate it". Like I doubt much people would care about Garbage Pail Kids if it wasn't for him.

It probably depends. The SMB movie was really poorly received, and Mario fans actively hated it years before the Nostalgia Critic was even a thing. Other movies I'm sure would have been forgotten as mediocre if they weren't brought up again.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Video game magazines back in the 90s weren't friendly to the Mario movie. There were articles that doubted the Tomb Raider and Resident Evil movies in early 2000 because video game movies' track record. By the way, here is a clip of Macho Man Randy Savage burying the Flintstones movie at 0:57-1:03:

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

I wonder how much has perception of films online have been soiled due to Doug going around yapping "this film sucks, you should hate it". Like I doubt much people would care about Garbage Pail Kids if it wasn't for him.

If someone judges a film's quality by what Doug Walker's hangers-ons say then they're probably not smart enough to actually appreciate movies anyway.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

If someone judges a film's quality by what Doug Walker's hangers-ons say then they're probably not smart enough to actually appreciate movies anyway.

What about Siskel and Ebert and Rotten Tomatoes? Or IMDB when the forums were active?

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

What about Siskel and Ebert and Rotten Tomatoes? Or IMDB when the forums were active?

Some reviewers communicate their ideas better, and aren't massive hacks like Doug Walker. But ultimately, the best way to decide if you like a movie is to actually just go watch it.

 

[AnOminous]

What about Siskel and Ebert and Rotten Tomatoes?

They were both competent reviewers and generally backed up their opinions. Depending on whether you agreed with them most of the time, whether or not they like something was a pretty good indicator of whether it was actually good. RT is more of a mess, but review aggregators always are. It's still a good site to get a good idea of the general opinion of a movie.

Internet critics have a weirder situation, though, where you have mindless cultists who just automatically agree with anything someone like Doug Walker said, even if he was just shit-talking and not even being a serious critic. His cultists seriously aren't the worst, though, and they haven't done shit like taking over TV Tropes, as the cultists of another unnameable person have.

 

[Lackadaisy]

They were both competent reviewers and generally backed up their opinions. Depending on whether you agreed with them most of the time, whether or not they like something was a pretty good indicator of whether it was actually good. RT is more of a mess, but review aggregators always are. It's still a good site to get a good idea of the general opinion of a movie.

Internet critics have a weirder situation, though, where you have mindless cultists who just automatically agree with anything someone like Doug Walker said, even if he was just shit-talking and not even being a serious critic. His cultists seriously aren't the worst, though, and they haven't done shit like taking over TV Tropes, as the cultists of another unnameable person have.

Oh the TGWTG cultists have taken over TVTropes, but they tend to stick to mildly less autistic topics.

 

[Robot Holocaust]

I think I Robot is a pretty good action movie. The concept is interesting and has some excellent fight scenes. I think if they didn't name it after and distanced it from Asimov's work, it'd be better remembered.

 

[RIP_SANITY]

I'm gonna add in another film: The Dark Knight Rises.
While I'm aware it's more of a vocal minority that hates it, they do hate it with all their guts.
Barring the rushed ending and Bale's cringeworthy Batman voice, I thought it was pretty amazing.

Speaking of an overhated comic book movie, I'll add in two other examples: Spider-Man 3 and X-Men 3.

Spider-Man 3 did suffer from those bizarre Emo Peter scenes and feeling a little too loaded with sub plots, as well as a lack of Venom (and keep in mind I'm also referring to Venom's host, Eddie. I felt that, much like Venom, he felt kinda shoehorned in the film) but the overall plot was still good, acting was good, action scenes were fucking amazing and the deal with black Spider-Man and Sandman was neat.

X-Men 3, I do agree it suffers from very very fast pacing, to the point where there's little character development (save for Wolverine and Xavier, and maybe Iceman and Storm but very little development for them) not to mention, the lack of Cyclops but the acting is still good, there was at least an interesting idea (the mutant cure) going on with the plot (which is a fucking shame they didn't cover it more) and the action scenes were still good. It's just ok. It gets way WAY too much hate. It's the same case as the SW Prequels, average films that get shit on too much. Like X3 is NOT what you'd consider one of the worst films of all time. Not even close lol.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

X-Men 3, I do agree it suffers from very very fast pacing, to the point where there's little character development (save for Wolverine and Xavier, and maybe Iceman and Storm but very little development for them) not to mention, the lack of Cyclops but the acting is still good, there was at least an interesting idea (the mutant cure) going on with the plot (which is a fucking shame they didn't cover it more) and the action scenes were still good. It's just ok. It gets way WAY too much hate. It's the same case as the SW Prequels, average films that get shit on too much. Like X3 is NOT what you'd consider one of the worst films of all time. Not even close lol.

My problem with the X-Men movies is they mostly focus on Wolverine, Cyclops, and Jean Grey: the three most boring characters in the line-up. Wolverine's a little better than the other two, but it wasn't until Logan where they actually used him properly.

I just don't understand why they put so much effort into this stupid love triangle when you have awesome characters like Rogue and Gambit sitting around doing nothing.

 

[projecteddrama]

I guess this doesn't really count, but I've noticed in recent years people bash Return of the Jedi a lot. I'm not the most hardcore Star Wars fan, but I love the film. Objectively it's not as good as Empire Strikes Back, but the throne room scene with Luke, Vader and Palpatine is as good as a sequence can get in Star Wars. The Jabbas palace scene is all very good too. I've seen people say Revenge Of The Sith is better, which is a pretty big insult. I suspect its the slave leia scene that seems to offend people now and thus they feel obligated to say they hate it, even if watching it shows its not what they make it out to be.

Everyone hates the original Independence Day, but I like it, even if it is retarded, but actually that's why I like it.

Everyone hates Alien: Resurrection, but I think its alright compared to Alien3.

Another weird choice, but I kinda like the Super Mario Bros movie in an perverse sort of way.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

I guess this doesn't really count, but I've noticed in recent years people bash Return of the Jedi a lot. I'm not the most hardcore Star Wars fan, but I love the film. Objectively it's not as good as Empire Strikes Back, but the throne room scene with Luke, Vader and Palpatine is as good as a sequence can get in Star Wars. The Jabbas palace scene is all very good too. I've seen people say Revenge Of The Sith is better, which is a pretty big insult. I suspect its the slave leia scene that seems to offend people now and thus they feel obligated to say they hate it, even if watching it shows its not what they make it out to be.

Jedi has always been the black sheep of the Original Trilogy, even when it came out. Most people still like it of course, but even die-hard fans admit it's a lot weaker than the previous two. It's never, ever been about the metal bikini and still isn't. There's just a fake controversy going around it lately because one guy who'd never watched any of the movies saw a Slave Leia action figure at Target and whined about it on social media (and Carrie Fisher shut him down on it pretty darn hard).

It's 100% because of the Ewoks. Even many people who like the movie thought they were goofy and lame. Just a race of future plushie toys the crew put in the movie because they didn't have the time or money to make them all Wookies as they intended. And its ending scene was kinda weak too. Barring Luke seeing Obi, Yoda, and Anakin, it was just a lame dance party with a bunch of midgets in fur suits.

 

[projecteddrama]

There's just a fake controversy going around it lately because one guy who'd never watched any of the movies saw a Slave Leia action figure at Target and whined about it on social media (and Carrie Fisher shut him down on it pretty darn hard).

I heard a controversy about Disney retiring it and Carrie Fisher urging whoever played the lead in Episode VII to never let anyone dress her in something like that? And a lot of the places I frequent, which are "SJW" heavy, always bitch about this outfit for some reason.

It's 100% because of the Ewoks. Even many people who like the movie thought they were goofy and lame. Just a race of future plushie toys the crew put in the movie because they didn't have the time or money to make them all Wookies as they intended. And its ending scene was kinda weak too. Barring Luke seeing Obi, Yoda, and Anakin, it was just a lame dance party with a bunch of midgets in fur suits.

I dunno, all the Star Wars endings are kinda lame, and I like the music John Williams did for the ending. I think it's only in the special edition though.

And since I can only think of sci-fi films atm, I don't hate some of the "bad" Star Trek films as much as everyone else (like 1, Generations, Nemesis) while the more liked NuTrek leaves me far colder.