What should be done in this strange situation? - I'm curious what other people think about this

What should have been done?

  • Help soy golem, try to save the pigeon

    Votes: 7 24.1%
  • Help hobo, try to get the soy golem to leave peacefully

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • Diffuse the situation, try to stop the cops from being called

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • Don't do anything

    Votes: 20 69.0%

  • Total voters
    29

EatYourVeggies

Kill veggies. Chop veggies. Stir fry veggies.
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I witnessed this IRL, but it doesn't involve me personally and it's interesting (at least to me), and I don't know what or if I should have done something about it.

>sitting in the quiet area of a loud park, where people gather to play chess
>it's late afternoon, sometimes drunks and homeless people also go there (sometimes they sleep on the benches)
>hobo joins a table, he has a plastic bag
>later, a soy golem approaches, he is red in the face, starts screaming at the hobo with the bag
>says he has incriminating evidence, threatens to call the police
>everybody is staring at him, wondering what his problem is
>shows us a photo he took of the contents of the hobo's bag, it's an injured pigeon
>the hobo had caught a wild pigeon and broke one of it's wings, I think maybe he wants to sell it or eat it
>sentient-pile-of-soy says pigeons are protected by law (don't know if this is true), and it's animal cruelty, wants to give the bird to the vets immediately (there is a veterinary cabinet close)
>hobo stands up, approaches the soy consumer, but the soylent-with-eyes is not intimidated
>after they face off awkwardly, the living soy mass winces and says he can't stand the hobo's stench, leaves angrily, saying he will call the police
>I leave soon afterwards, don't know how the story ends


It's clear that the bird was suffering. However I can't think of a good reason why humans can kill and eat chickens, but not pigeons. It's clear that the hobo was acting in a self-serving way that was causing suffering, but if it's against an animal is it not evil? I eat chickens almost everyday and I don't think about it, and I have no problems with the farming process of chickens. Should it be different in this case? Also the hobo could have been starving. The soy golem's actions seem also brave and altruistic, he confronted a hobo who could easily beat him up with no fear, showed care for the bird's suffering. It's good that I don't know how the story ended, I can't use hindsight to see if I was correct in not doing anything. Maybe the cops came and arrested the hobo, maybe he killed the pigeon and ate it.
 
People who torture animals often go on to do worse. Right now it’s a pigeon, next it’s someone’s pet, then someone’s child.

The government should sell tags for hunting homeless and pedofiles. It would be a great source of revenue and bring down the population of their invasive species.
 
I would totally ignore it.
Although if you're going to eat a pigeon fine, but then just break its pigeon neck and have done with.

Also I'm willing to bet that same soy golem is the type who'd be on Reddit accusing people of being closed minded bigots for suggesting that having loads of undesirables flooding your city is a bad thing. They love the idea of savages, until they have to actually see them in action. Then they have a meltdown over seeing someone be mean to a pigeon.
 
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Yes, last time I checked in my city, the law prohibits someone to torture/injure/attack animals on the street, even if they are pigeons; some people call them flying rats, doesn't matter, you are technically not allowed to damage them.

You are authorised to hunt in specific areas, specific animals (some are forbidden to touch), with a permit for specific weapons/methods, but you're not talking about this.

What you've described, if perpetrated by the homeless person, would be against the law (where I am).

Like it or not, if it's true that the homeless person did that, what you call the "soy-golem" is 100% correct.
 
I can't think of a good reason why humans can kill and eat chickens, but not pigeons.

Ingredients​

  • 1⁄2 cup blanched almonds
  • 3 lb. pigeon (5-6)
  • 3 cups chicken stock
  • 3 eggs
  • 3 tbsp. olive oil
  • 4 cloves garlic, minced
  • 1 medium yellow onion, minced
  • 1 tbsp. ras el hanout
  • 1⁄2 tsp. crushed red chile flakes
  • 1⁄4 tsp. saffron threads, mixed with 1 tsp. water
  • 3 tbsp. minced cilantro
  • 3 tbsp. minced parsley
  • Kosher salt and freshly ground black pepper, to taste
  • 6 tbsp. unsalted butter, melted, plus more
  • 8 sheets phyllo dough
  • 1⁄4 cup confectioners' sugar
  • 1 tsp. ground cinnamon

Instructions​


Step 1​

Toast almonds in a 4-qt. saucepan over medium-high, 4–5 minutes; let cool. Transfer to a food processor and pulse until finely ground; set aside. Add pigeons and stock to pan; boil. Reduce heat to medium-low; cook, covered, until pigeons are cooked through, 40–45 minutes. Using tongs, transfer pigeons to a cutting board; let cool, then shred meat, discarding skin and bones. Simmer cooking liquid over medium heat until reduced to 1 cup, about 30 minutes. Let cool and whisk in eggs; set sauce aside.

Step 2​

Wipe pan clean and add oil; heat over medium-high. Cook garlic and onion until golden, 8–10 minutes. Add ras el hanout, chile flakes, and saffron mixture; cook 1–2 minutes and remove from heat. Stir in reserved almonds, shredded meat, and sauce, the cilantro, parsley, salt, and pepper; set filling aside.

Step 3​

Heat oven to 400°. Grease a 9" springform pan with butter. Lay 1 sheet phyllo on a work surface and brush with melted butter. Fit into pan, allowing corners to hang over the edges. Repeat with another sheet phyllo. Spread 1⁄3 filling over dough. Repeat process of layering twice more. Fold corners of phyllo over filling. Top with remaining 2 sheets buttered phyllo; tuck corners around sides of pan, encasing the filling. Bake until golden and filling is set, 30–35 minutes. Let cool slightly, then unmold; dust with confectioners' sugar and cinnamon.

Enjoy your pigeon dinner!
 
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Yes, last time I checked in my city, the law prohibits someone to torture/injure/attack animals on the street, even if they are pigeons; some people call them flying rats, doesn't matter, you are technically not allowed to damage them.
Man, I will fuck up a goose if it starts shit with me. It's not my fault geese write checks their hollow bones can't cash.
 
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