What should be done to stop mass shootings?

[Retarded Fuckpuppet]

Yes, a woman should be able to control their own body, and not have bible thumping religious zealots like you control them.

It's funny how the fact that I regularly get laid and you're a woman hating incel has you so seething mad. You need to take my advice, Eris, and stop acting like an 85 year old religious nutjob in the year 1955 and maybe you'll be able to find a nice woman. Women aren't into guys who remind them of their grandpa.

The US is the current source of the vast majority of guns in Mexico. Other countries could obviously manufacture them, too, but not to the extent the US currently does. And yes, guns could come in from Mexico if they started making guns there. However, the number of guns would still be a lot less. I am not even saying to ban all guns or anything like that, but the ones used by mass shooters like AR-15s and whatnot should be. There's no reason someone needs a gun like that unless it's to kill a lot of people. You're fine with people being shot, though, as long as women are forced to give birth to babies.

Lol most liberals don't make Youtube videos where they ask heavily leading questions. But incest is pretty common in the south, Eris.

Jesus said to love everyone. I know you evangelicals don't actually care what Jesus said and instead just use it to hate minorities, so you are unaware of that. If you actually read the bible, you would certainly not vote for the party who wants to eliminate welfare, social security and is trying to remove access to affordable healthcare. Like I said, you'll be burning in hell if you're right and I will be laughing my ass off at you from heaven.

Stop misgendering her bigot.

 

[LaxerBRO]

I am not even saying to ban all guns or anything like that, but the ones used by mass shooters like AR-15s and whatnot should be. There's no reason someone needs a gun like that unless it's to kill a lot of people.

I thought that an AR-15 was a peashooter and would be useless against the government yet it's the most dangerous gun around...



Adam Lanza took 23 seconds to breach the locked doors, search the office, then begin his massacre.

The police took 544 seconds to respond. Even given the benefit of the doubt to cops and allowing 521 seconds for Lanza to commit his massacre, he could have killed the same amount of people.

The math is simple. He killed 26 innocent people in 521 seconds. That is 20 seconds per shot before the cops made entry.

The targets were little defenseless kids that were trapped. The death toll could have been achieved with a revolver and moon clips.

So we ban AR-15 and the next shooter uses a revolver.

I know what you will want to ban next.

You're fine with people being shot, though, as long as women are forced to give birth to babies.

The process to make Abortion a protected right and to heavily restrict firearms is within the founding documents of the United States.

Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

 

[MadStan]

I never see reports of what pharmacy prescribed drugs the shooters were on and would love to know.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Yes, a woman should be able to control their own body

Since you're defending abortion up until the literal moment of birth, please finally explain what anatomical difference exists between the organism upon birth and that same organism immediately prior (we already have went over the broad definitions of "fetus" & "infant" so don't bother providing them, give a detailed explanation).

It's funny how the fact that I regularly get laid and you're a woman hating incel has you so seething mad.

Hey Faggot,

My name is John, and I hate you. You are a fat, retarded, no-life who spends every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.

Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than "jack off to naked drawn Japanese people"? I also get straight A's, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are a faggot who should just kill yourself. Thanks for listening.

Pic Related: It's me and my bitch

The US is the current source of the vast majority of guns in Mexico. Other countries could obviously manufacture them, too, but not to the extent the US currently does. And yes, guns could come in from Mexico if they started making guns there. However, the number of guns would still be a lot less.

Amazingly that's a sane and nearly rational paragraph. And you'd actually be mostly right if it wasn't for the fact that there's so many guns in America already, way more than there are people, and there's no way to realistically put a dent in that.

So there would be less guns, but they'd be concentrated in the hands of the police you think are racist, and criminals. Doesn't sound smart.

I am not even saying to ban all guns or anything like that, but the ones used by mass shooters like AR-15s and whatnot should be. There's no reason someone needs a gun like that unless it's to kill a lot of people. You're fine with people being shot, though, as long as women are forced to give birth to babies.

What amount of gun death do mass shootings account for, and what are you counting as mass shootings exactly?

I'm not fine with people being shot, my solutions are just better than yours, but nobody else exists because you're a narcissist, which is also why killing babies for convenience is okay with you.

Lol most liberals don't make Youtube videos where they ask heavily leading questions. But incest is pretty common in the south, Eris.

Liberals don't make videos of any value at all, that's one reason you never see them liberal debate compilations where they actually win, all they can do is embarrass themselves so they rely on CNN and just sit back.

And what's this excuse about leading questions? If they don't think incest is okay then they should say so, simple as.

Jesus said to love everyone.

Do I have to post the meme?

Edit: An immediate sticker from @secret watcher huh, how'd he see it literally immediately

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Since you're defending abortion up until the literal moment of birth, please finally explain what anatomical difference exists between the organism upon birth and that same organism immediately prior (we already have went over the broad definitions of "fetus" & "infant" so don't bother providing them, give a detailed explanation).


Hey Faggot,

My name is John, and I hate you. You are a fat, retarded, no-life who spends every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.

Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than "jack off to naked drawn Japanese people"? I also get straight A's, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are a faggot who should just kill yourself. Thanks for listening.

Pic Related: It's me and my bitch

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Amazingly that's a sane and nearly rational paragraph. And you'd actually be mostly right if it wasn't for the fact that there's so many guns in America already, way more than there are people, and there's no way to realistically put a dent in that.

So there would be less guns, but they'd be concentrated in the hands of the police you think are racist, and criminals. Doesn't sound smart.


What amount of gun death do mass shootings account for, and what are you counting as mass shootings exactly?

I'm not fine with people being shot, my solutions are just better than yours, but nobody else exists because you're a narcissist, which is also why killing babies for convenience is okay with you.


Liberals don't make videos of any value at all, that's one reason you never see them liberal debate compilations where they actually win, all they can do is embarrass themselves so they rely on CNN and just sit back.

And what's this excuse about leading questions? If they don't think incest is okay then they should say so, simple as.


Do I have to post the meme?

Edit: An immediate sticker from @secret watcher huh, how'd he see it literally immediately

Not gonna lie, I did lol at the John copypasta.

Well, for one thing, a fetus inside the pregnant woman is biologically reliant upon the woman. A baby that is born is no longer reliant on them

I'd rather police have guns than people who will commit mass shootings.

Liberals don't make videos because we aren't gullible enough to believe that videos are totes legit and can't be staged or the video can't be spliced. I see that you learned nothing from Michael Moore when he made videos that went against you neocons in the early 2000s.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Not gonna lie, I did lol at the John copypasta.

At least you have a sense of humor occasionally.

Well, for one thing, a fetus inside the pregnant woman is biologically reliant upon the woman. A baby that is born is no longer reliant on them

That's technically true, but two points:

1) They're viable at that point
2) That's not an anatomical difference

I'd rather police have guns than people who will commit mass shootings.

You didn't specify what you consider a mass shooting, skipped over the fact that by any definition they account for a tiny fraction of gun deaths, and forgot that criminals will have guns even if there's fewer (and they don't need guns to rape, kill, and steal).

Liberals don't make videos because we aren't gullible enough to believe that videos are totes legit and can't be staged or the video can't be spliced. I see that you learned nothing from Michael Moore when he made videos that went against you neocons in the early 2000s.

Staged..? This isn't the conspiracy theory thread.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Well, for one thing, a fetus inside the pregnant woman is biologically reliant upon the woman. A baby that is born is no longer reliant on them

So a woman could use dangerous narcotics that have a high possibility of damaging the fetus then when birthed make the taxpayer share the burden for their recklessness as the baby is retarded?

I'd rather police have guns than people who will commit mass shootings.

Why do cops need firearms when the average citizen does not have one?

No, they don't need guns because they need them to stop a dangerous criminal.

Researchers found that less than 5 percent of all calls dispatched to police are made quickly enough for officers to stop a crime or arrest a suspect.

So cops rarely respond fast enough to prevent crime or catch said criminal but need firearms to protect themselves whereas the victim of crime does not. I just have a hard time believing why a team of people with training, gear, and their fellow officers cannot face off with a threat a civilian had to face alone and unarmed.

So how about those mass shootings?

Per the FBI from 2000 to 2018, 884 people died in a mass shooting which is about 49 people every single year. Now, while those deaths are tragic, lets see how many lives are protected with firearms.
US Department of Justice

Based on data obtained from the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS), these authors estimate that there were 65,000 incidents per year in the period between 1987 and 1990 in which victims used firearms to protect themselves against criminals.

So every year guns protect at least 65,000 people from crime, even if I were to say that only .001% of those defensive gun uses would have resulted in deaths, the lives gun save outstrip those lost to mass shootings.

Liberals don't make videos because we aren't gullible enough to believe that videos are totes legit and can't be staged or the video can't be spliced. I see that you learned nothing from Michael Moore when he made videos that went against you neocons in the early 2000s.

Imagine thinking Michael Moore is competent.

 

[NOT Andy Kaufman]

Stop glorifying killers in jew media. Put criminals in prison. Stop giving children psychoactive medications. 100% of school shooters were on psychoactive meds.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

That's technically true, but two points:

1) They're viable at that point
2) That's not an anatomical difference


You didn't specify what you consider a mass shooting, skipped over the fact that by any definition they account for a tiny fraction of gun deaths, and forgot that criminals will have guns even if there's fewer (and they don't need guns to rape, kill, and steal).


Staged..? This isn't the conspiracy theory thread.

Doesn't really matter. It's still a fetus at that point. No one, except you, ever said there needs to be an anatomical difference. The baby is still reliant upon the umbilical cord to feed them.

Mass shootings still kill a lot of people. I don't want people shot at all. And yes, making guns harder to get is going to stop them from coming into the country. And as illegal guns are confiscated, there will be fewer and fewer.

I know this isn't the conspiracy thread. I know you're a low IQ simpleton, but you do realize that Youtube videos can be scripted, right? Again, I understand you're really gullible and believe everything you read online, but Youtube videos can easily be staged. I could make a video where I interview someone pretending to be a QAnoner like you and have them say some stupid shit.

 

[CreamyHerman’s]

Mass shootings still kill a lot of people. I don't want people shot at all. And yes, making guns harder to get is going to stop them from coming into the country. And as illegal guns are confiscated, there will be fewer and fewer.

How are you going to confiscate illegal guns when the feds themselves fail to confiscate them during the Fast & Furious scandal?

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Honestly, there's a very easy solution to this problem. First of all, anyone of age 12 and up should be issued a gun, plates, an IFAK, and taught how to shoot and do basic first aid. Second, any American with an IQ lower than 85 should be sent back to Africa. There, problem solved.

Only a true imbecile would think that banning guns would accomplish anything. You can't simply force people to forget 1000 years of gunpowder technology. Nowadays the average 13-year-old knows how to make black powder at home, how to make pipebombs, and how to build an FGC-9 complete with an electro-chemically etched rifled barrel. The fuck are you gonna do about it?

Plus, self-defense is an essential human right that is above any law, so anti-gun niggers can fuck right off.

 

[Hüftpriester]

How is it impossible to have universal healthcare and open borders? I know you're a boomer who is anti-education so facts are foreign to you, but you do know that illegal immigrants contribute more in taxes than they get back, right? Oh, right, Tucker Carlson told you otherwise so you don't believe that.

Plus, the US isn't an open border as @Lurker said

You and your ballwashers are so tedious and annoying.

How do illegal immigrants contribute in taxes? Do you expect me to believe that unskilled laborers who are illiterate in their mother tongue are going to go out of their way to pay taxes in America even when they're working off the books? I know that's probably what you were led to believe from white lesbians on msnbc but it's just not based in reality.

Will you at least admit universal healthcare works well in countries like Denmark and Norway? Or will you conveniently ignore this point again?

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Just look at Canada which has no guns and universal healthcare, they're doing GREAT.

 

[LaxerBRO]

How is it impossible to have universal healthcare and open borders? I know you're a boomer who is anti-education so facts are foreign to you, but you do know that illegal immigrants contribute more in taxes than they get back, right? Oh, right, Tucker Carlson told you otherwise so you don't believe that.

Illegal aliens only contribute more in taxes because they do not qualify for federal benefits in the basis that they are illegal.

However once you make them legal, they become eligible for means tested benefits such as the Earned Income Tax Credit or Child Tax Credit.

Heritage Foundation

At the end of the interim period, unlawful immigrants would become eligible for means-tested welfare and medical subsidies under Obamacare. Average benefits would rise to $43,900 per household; tax payments would remain around $16,000; the average fiscal deficit (benefits minus taxes) would be about $28,000 per household.

Plus, the US isn't an open border as...

So an illegal alien comes over, claim asylum, they get some state benefits (if it's a blue state), they miss their immigration hearing, are not deported due to the Bidens reprioritization, and then eventually get amnesty.

How is that not near Open Borders?

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Doesn't really matter. It's still a fetus at that point. No one, except you, ever said there needs to be an anatomical difference. The baby is still reliant upon the umbilical cord to feed them.

Okay, so you've at least conceded there's no meaningful anatomical difference between a viable "fetus" and an "infant", we're making progress.

Now your argument hinges upon the fact that these viable babies deserve to die because they're immediately reliant upon their mother, so why not bring them out alive instead of dead since they're comimg out one way or another anyway? You're just unnecessarily adding the extra steps of viciously killing the baby first.

Mass shootings still kill a lot of people. I don't want people shot at all.

I agree, but there is no utopia, even the strictest gun control isn't perfect anywhere.

And yes, making guns harder to get is going to stop them from coming into the country. And as illegal guns are confiscated, there will be fewer and fewer.

How will that stop them from coming into the country since America is not the only source of guns? You're acting as if once America stops making them they're finite and can all be collected up, which isn't true.

You haven't explained how people are to defend themselves either; what will an elderly couple do when some niggers break into their home, just call the police and pray to God who you don't believe in?

I know this isn't the conspiracy thread. I know you're a low IQ simpleton, but you do realize that Youtube videos can be scripted, right? Again, I understand you're really gullible and believe everything you read online, but Youtube videos can easily be staged. I could make a video where I interview someone pretending to be a QAnoner like you and have them say some stupid shit.

So you know this isn't the conspiracy theory thread, yet you're spewing your conspiracy theory here without any proof whatsoever? Gotcha, cool.

Just say you can't produce similar evidence of conservatives defending incest and go.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Okay, so you've at least conceded there's no meaningful anatomical difference between a viable "fetus" and an "infant", we're making progress.

Now your argument hinges upon the fact that these viable babies deserve to die because they're immediately reliant upon their mother, so why not bring them out alive instead of dead since they're comimg out one way or another anyway? You're just unnecessarily adding the extra steps of viciously killing the baby first.


I agree, but there is no utopia, even the strictest gun control isn't perfect anywhere.


How will that stop them from coming into the country since America is not the only source of guns? You're acting as if once America stops making them they're finite and can all be collected up, which isn't true.

You haven't explained how people are to defend themselves either; what will an elderly couple do when some niggers break into their home, just call the police and pray to God who you don't believe in?


So you know this isn't the conspiracy theory thread, yet you're spewing your conspiracy theory here without any proof whatsoever? Gotcha, cool.

Just say you can't produce similar evidence of conservatives defending incest and go.

Well, there can be an anatomical difference between a fetus and an infant, depending on how far along the pregnancy is. You think that a single cell has more rights than an adult human female, and you think a corpse has more rights than an adult, living human female. But yes, I believe a woman should have control over her body. I know you boomers think that the government should control women's bodies, but when it comes to mask mandates and vaccines, you throw a tantrum because that would be your body. Hypocrites gonna hypocrite.

I don't think it'd be possible to stop 100% of guns coming into the country, but it would stop a lot of them. I know your crippling autism has you unable to comprehend things that aren't 0% or 100%, but just because we wouldn't be able to stop every single banned gun from getting in, doesn't mean we'd not be able to stop a whole lot of them and prevent some mass shootings.

You act like it's common for people to break into homes or that if one had a gun, they'd automatically become Rambo. The real world doesn't work that way. But in either case, there's other self defense mechanisms like tasers, stun guns, etc... And again, I don't want to ban every gun. I want to ban the semi-automatic ones. So the elderly couple could still have rifles, pistols, etc...

Again, I know your crippling autism has turned you super impressionable, but you do know videos can be staged, right? See, this is why I don't answer your questions, you don't answer mine. Your diseased brain is unable to comprehend videos being scripted... haven't you ever been to the movies, or are those considered against your religion, too?

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Well, there can be an anatomical difference between a fetus and an infant, depending on how far along the pregnancy is.

Obviously, but as you know the subject is late-term abortion, so stay on track. Why not have her deliver the baby alive instead of going through the extra steps of delivering it dead?

I don't think it'd be possible to stop 100% of guns coming into the country, but it would stop a lot of them.

You don't think it'd be possible to stop 100% of guns? You're a retard if you even entertain the possibility with an open border, guns would flow freely. We'd need a secure border before even talking about this.

You act like it's common for people to break into homes or that if one had a gun, they'd automatically become Rambo.

Uh, there's a minimum of 65,000 defensive gun uses per year, doesn't seem rare. In 2020 there were 377,805 burglaries.

They don't need to be Rambo against elderly, women, children, and disabled people, HHH. I know you're autistic and only see things in black & white, but criminals don't need to be Rambo to rape and kill a woman, then steal her stuff.

The real world doesn't work that way. But in either case, there's other self defense mechanisms like tasers, stun guns, etc... And again, I don't want to ban every gun. I want to ban the semi-automatic ones. So the elderly couple could still have rifles, pistols, etc...

I'm sure grandpa caught off-guard at 3 A.M will love to square off against cracked out Tyrone using a taser in a gun fight. Instead, why shouldn't he have the optimal self-defense tools?

Again, I know your crippling autism has turned you super impressionable, but you do know videos can be staged, right? See, this is why I don't answer your questions, you don't answer mine. Your diseased brain is unable to comprehend videos being scripted... haven't you ever been to the movies, or are those considered against your religion, too?

Just because something can be staged doesn't mean it is. You have total faith that 1/6 wasn't staged and deny any possibility that it could be, yet every conservative video, article, etc is totally fake.

You don't answer questions because you can't. I don't blame you, gun rights are hard to argue against, you're basically telling people they should downgrade their defensive abilities while simultaneously opening the border for the worst criminals on earth like MS-13. I know, MS-13 doesn't exist either, take it to the conspiracy theory thread you begged the jannies to ban me from.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Obviously, but as you know the subject is late-term abortion, so stay on track. Why not have her deliver the baby alive instead of going through the extra steps of delivering it dead?


You don't think it'd be possible to stop 100% of guns? You're a retard if you even entertain the possibility with an open border, guns would flow freely. We'd need a secure border before even talking about this.


Uh, there's a minimum of 65,000 defensive gun uses per year, doesn't seem rare. In 2020 there were 377,805 burglaries.

They don't need to be Rambo against elderly, women, children, and disabled people, HHH. I know you're autistic and only see things in black & white, but criminals don't need to be Rambo to rape and kill a woman, then steal her stuff.


I'm sure grandpa caught off-guard at 3 A.M will love to square off against cracked out Tyrone using a taser in a gun fight. Instead, why shouldn't he have the optimal self-defense tools?


Just because something can be staged doesn't mean it is. You have total faith that 1/6 wasn't staged and deny any possibility that it could be, yet every conservative video, article, etc is totally fake.

You don't answer questions because you can't. I don't blame you, gun rights are hard to argue against, you're basically telling people they should downgrade their defensive abilities while simultaneously opening the border for the worst criminals on earth like MS-13. I know, MS-13 doesn't exist either, take it to the conspiracy theory thread you begged the jannies to ban me from.

Again, I know you have crippling autism, but no woman is going to carry a baby for 8.9 months then just decide to abort it. I know you're a virgin, but pregnancy is hell on the woman. She'd have already planned the baby's name, have a crib, etc by then.

Lol guns wouldn't flow freely, Eris. Again, most guns flow from our country into Mexico, not vice-versa.

Burglaries aren't home invasions, Eris. 65,000 defensive gun uses in a country of 360 million is pretty rare. I know you're anti-education, but that's pretty simple math. And again, I don't want to ban every gun, just semi-automatics like AR-15s.

I am talking about the elderly turning into Rambo, Eris. I know context is hard for you aspies, but you should try harder. And again, I don't want to ban every gun, just AR-15s. Are you having trouble reading or something? Please, talk to your case worker.

Well, there's a ton of evidence that Jan 6th wasn't staged. For example, the folks who were arrested posted tons of QAnon and pro-MAGA propaganda on Parler. That guy was some rando, it could be just someone the video maker paid to stage.

Eris, are you having trouble reading or something? I have said, multiple times, that I don't want to ban every gun. Just semi-automatics. And to increase gun owner responsibility. And again, most of the guns MS-13 has are from the US. It's cute how much trouble you have with simple reading and instead fixate on stuff I never said. Another sign of crippling autism.

BTW, I also got banned from the conspiracy thread. All because you're so upset that I don't want to live in a theocracy and don't worship boomer Republicans with all my heart, body and soul like you do, so much so that you follow me around to multiple threads just to spaz out at me

 

[LaxerBRO]

Burglaries aren't home invasions,

Burglaries are a catch all which can include occupied and unoccupied dwellings.

Eris. 65,000 defensive gun uses in a country of 360 million is pretty rare. I know you're anti-education, but that's pretty simple math.

That's only because most gun owners do not have a firearm readily accessible and are responsible.

If someone takes my gym bag as I am walking to the car, I cannot get my car gun and shoot them in the back.

The correct metric to use is how many defensive gun uses are their against people that are armed.

Your metric is suggesting that X is not effective even when that variable is not present.

Under your retarded premise, I could design a study suggesting that AEDs are not effective in cardiac emergencies but include places that do not have an AED.

And again, I don't want to ban every gun, just semi-automatics like AR-15s.

I wish I could believe you but as we have seen in the UK all it takes is a handgun massacre and you will change your opinion.

This is the retarded hand wringing over a lever action shotgun that entered the market AFTER the highly restrictive gun laws were passed.

Rapid fire firearm!

From the Wild West!

We have seen what happens when you get what you want...all it takes is one tragedy and you will push for more.

Let me make you a deal. If a shooting occurs in a Commonwealth country and no politicians call for more gun regulations then I will believe you.

As of now, this has not been the case. Even when there are restrictive laws already in place all your side wants it more restrictive laws.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Again, I know you have crippling autism, but no woman is going to carry a baby for 8.9 months then just decide to abort it.

In that case you'll have no problem with restrictions reflecting that supposed fact, glad we're in agreement now on at least some restrictions.

Lol guns wouldn't flow freely, Eris. Again, most guns flow from our country into Mexico, not vice-versa.

They won't be flowing from our country into Mexico if we stop manufacturing them and confiscate the rest, retard. Demand won't go away and the cartels will gladly meet that demand.

Burglaries aren't home invasions, Eris. 65,000 defensive gun uses in a country of 360 million is pretty rare.

65k is the lowest figure, it's been well over a million dipshit. And 65k defensive gun uses is just how many people were able to use their gun, it obviously doesn't reflect victims who were unable to use their gun or victims who don't own guns.

Even blindly taking 65k, that's a lot more than all gun deaths combined, ever, including your drop in the bucket mass shootings and even suicides, so if 65k is nothing then so are mass shootings (and just shootings period).

I am talking about the elderly turning into Rambo, Eris. I know context is hard for you aspies, but you should try harder.

Then you should be more clear. I know articulating your simple, imbecilic ideas is challenging because you're autistic, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt and didn't assume you'd make such a nonsensical argument.

If having a big scary AR-15 (which you want banned) doesn't turn an old man into Rambo, you're saying it's not effective enough to guarantee he will successfully defend himself, and yet you want to give him an even less effective self-defense tool? That doesn't make any sense faggot.

Also, if merely having an AR-15 isn't going to help you attack people to defend yourself then there's no reason to single such a gun out for banning, since obviously it's not that effective in attacking people according to you.

Well, there's a ton of evidence that Jan 6th wasn't staged. For example, the folks who were arrested posted tons of QAnon and pro-MAGA propaganda on Parler. That guy was some rando, it could be just someone the video maker paid to stage.

How many of the people arrested posted QAnon content? And trying to conflate Q and MAGA is retarded, I can't even say nice try.

So since you are concerned with citing evidence now, cite evidence that video was staged.

I have said, multiple times, that I don't want to ban every gun. Just semi-automatics. And to increase gun owner responsibility. And again, most of the guns MS-13 has are from the US.

Cool, but you're not making a compelling argument for banning any type of guns, in fact it only becomes more clear we shouldn't ban them.

I see you're now concerned with personal responsibility, that is good, and I agree. However, you're being inconsistent. Why should people (including women) need increased responsibility with guns but not pregnancy? You want to take away women's rights to self-defense but ensure their right to kill their offspring, try to be consistent when advocating for personal responsibility.

BTW, I also got banned from the conspiracy thread. All because you're so upset that I don't want to live in a theocracy and don't worship boomer Republicans with all my heart, body and soul like you do, so much so that you follow me around to multiple threads just to spaz out at me

You suffer from main character syndrome, I had posted in that thread about conspiracies well before we even got in that argument. I'm pretty sure you started it by quoting me too, I wasn't even talking to you.

Stay mad and enjoy your threadban faggot