What's truly considered apolitical in videogames?

[Nobunaga]

Just do like killer 7, talk about how politics is fucking retarded

 

[UE 558]

What people need to realize is that apolitical games are rare, non-propagandized games are not. Even the “apolitical” Sekiro probably has statements about Tokugawa-era Japan and the also “apolitical” KCD probably has statements about Medieval Bohemia, but we don’t notice them too hard because FS and WHG are smart enough to not write propaganda.

“Apolitical” games are boring, but “propaganda” games (like Gone Home) are pure shit

Liking Doom makes you a Christian, whether you wanted to be or not.

tell that to the angels you can kill in eternal. That’s right, many of the guys who loved “mortally challenged” are now angry at killable angels because Jack Thompson-era bible thumping is now cool in /pol/land

Well considering Doom Eternal is going to factor in heaven, who wants the Doom Slayer to stop, it's gonna get a lot more complicated.

It gives me Devilman vibes and I love it

 

[Red Hood]

What people need to realize is that apolitical games are rare, non-propagandized games are not. Even the “apolitical” Sekiro probably has statements about Tokugawa-era Japan and the also “apolitical” KCD probably has statements about Medieval Bohemia, but we don’t notice them too hard because FS and WHG are smart enough to not write propaganda.

“Apolitical” games are boring, but “propaganda” games (like Gone Home) are pure shit

tell that to the angels you can kill in eternal. That’s right, many of the guys who loved “mortally challenged” are now angry at killable angels because Jack Thompson-era bible thumping is now cool in /pol/land


It gives me Devilman vibes and I love it

I don't count Doom games that didn't have John "Suck it Down" Romero on staff.

 

[UE 558]

I don't count Doom games that didn't have John "Suck it Down" Romero on staff.

What a redpilled dude

 

[Red Hood]

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It's funnier because he threatened to make everyone his bitch but time and time again, he has been made the bitch.

But for real most of the game designers who made stuff I loved turned out to be major spergs IRL. Except for the Japs.

 

[UE 558]

It's funnier because he threatened to make everyone his bitch but time and time again, he has been made the bitch.

But for real most of the game designers who made stuff I loved turned out to be major spergs IRL.

At least he isn’t David “Kratos is Queer” Jaffe. I get the feeling Jaffe will have fucking psychotic break in the Walmart checkout line in like 5 years when he sees Barlog’s game as the phone wallpaper of the guy in front of him.

He claims to be okay with Barlog’s game, but is uninterested in it due to it being “too cinematic” and being different from his interpretation.

Given David’s other autistic tendencies, those are likely copouts and he’s probably secretly jealous of Barlog because Drawn to Death was a fucking flop meanwhile the transformative sequel to his creation sold 10 million

 

[Red Hood]

At least he isn’t David “Kratos is Queer” Jaffe. I get the feeling Jaffe will have fucking psychotic break in the Walmart checkout line in like 5 years when he sees Barlog’s game as the phone wallpaper of the guy in front of him

Yeah. I can probably count on one hand the number of game devs that didn't go full exceptional in the past few years. Considering these people are all NERDS I think most are deeply afraid of being outcasts for committing wrongthink.

Origin and Ion Storm alumni seem to have a particularly large number of them, probably due to both companies' ties to Austin.

In any case, I learned long ago that if I don't separate art from artist I'm never going to be able to enjoy ANYTHING.

 

[UE 558]

Yeah. I can probably count on one hand the number of game devs that didn't go full exceptional in the past few years. Considering these people are all NERDS I think most are deeply afraid of being outcasts for committing wrongthink.

Origin and Ion Storm seem to have a particular number of them, probably due to both companies' ties to Austin.

In any case, I learned long ago that if I don't separate art from artist I'm never going to be able to enjoy ANYTHING.

More or less. The original creator of Crash is a bitter douchebag who’s still angry at Sony, even though they don’t even own it anymore. http://powerupgaming.co.uk/2016/12/...ks-same-old-franchise-shouldve-moved-forward/

Deus Ex’s Warren Spector is a fuck drumpf megasped.

And Ninja Gaiden’s Tomonobu Otagaki is a salty douchebag who had a fagattack on Twitter because Okami’s Hideki Kamiya had the balls to say that he was uninterested in Ninja Gaiden

 

[Red Hood]

More or less. The original creator of Crash is a bitter douchebag who’s still angry at Sony, even though they don’t even own it anymore. http://powerupgaming.co.uk/2016/12/...ks-same-old-franchise-shouldve-moved-forward/

Deus Ex’s Warren Spector is a fuck drumpf megasped.

And Ninja Gaiden’s Tomonobu Otagaki is a salty douchebag who had a fagattack on Twitter because Okami’s Hideki Kamiya had the balls to say that he was uninterested in Ninja Gaiden

Don't know if he's kept it up, but the last time I checked in with Kamiya he was an absolute treasure that gave zero fucks.

 

[UE 558]

Don't know if he's kept it up, but the last time I checked in with Kamiya he was an absolute treasure that gave zero fucks.

Except Kamiya’s just fucking with people, Itagaki seems genuinely offended by Kamiya

 

[Red Hood]

Except Kamiya’s just fucking with people, Itagaki seems genuinely offended by Kamiya

That's my point. Kamiya doesn't care if he offends someone, and he generally makes quality games. He's pretty Chad for a game developer.

Itagaki takes the shitposting seriously. You wouldn't think a guy that makes T&A Fighting to be so serious.

 

[Fek]

So trying to stick strictly to "apolitical" taken verbatim, as @CrunkLord420 already succinctly laid out an important distinction:

Certain types of games can be apolitical because..well, they're fucking Asteroids/Frogger and just don't have any substance beyond gameplay to offer you. If you can make a game that revolves heavily around its gameplay, then you can avoid most/all story elements (and thus any need for political reference/inference) in the process. Sure, you can really, reaaaally reach and make something out of nothing with some of those games (clearly Frogger is an expression of the destruction of natural habitats caused by urban sprawl, hurr durr), but that's more you being an asshole than the game having any trace of politics.

 

[Psyduck]

What i hate the most is that i can't look at certain tropes without relating it to some sort of exceptional outrage at first.

"What? They added a black female gym leader to Pokemon? Goddamn SJW's must've whined like crazy!"

That lasts a few seconds, but i hate it, the whole SJW and Anti SJW shit i used to watch tainted the way i see art these days.
I just wanna enjoy myself, dammit.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

>be me
>take vidya seriously
>tfw died alone

 

[Red Hood]

What i hate the most is that i can't look at certain tropes without relating it to some sort of exceptional outrage at first.

"What? They added a black female gym leader to Pokemon? Goddamn SJW's must've whined like crazy!"

That lasts a few seconds, but i hate it, the whole SJW and Anti SJW shit i used to watch tainted the way i see art these days.
I just wanna enjoy myself, dammit.

1991 if OneAngryGamer existed then:
OH MY GOD they added a Chinese girl to Street Fighter II? Goddamn feminists.

 

[Picnic_Boy]

Well considering Doom Eternal is going to factor in heaven, who wants the Doom Slayer to stop, it's gonna get a lot more complicated.

Kinda sounds like Bayonetta. Or SMT. Humanity vs. angels seems to be a pretty common trope in Japanese games.

 

[UE 558]

Fuck the Culture War, just laugh at shit-ass propaganda like Wakanda ending of MK11 instead of sperging out like an autistic nigger (aka what Billy D literally is) .

Sperg out at the SJWs and it’ll just he an eternal feedback loop of one side sperging and the other sperging back, but if you laugh at the SJWs in a clever way and they’ll be seen as jokes for years to come. There’s a reason why “FullMcIntosh”, “Slob Shitman” and “Zoe and the 5 Guys” are remembered better than spergy 10 paragraph anti-SJW tangents from /v/ and KiA.

It’s like Mel Brooks’ view on nazi-humor, when you make someone a joke, they lose all their power.

 

[Clop]

It's not politics that's the problem, it's the developers forcing an answer on you that's the problem. If you give a player writing involving politics or social values but do not give a definitive answer and instead let the player think about it themselves on their own time, it's apolitical enough for me. Don't pick a side, simply leave a door open for discussion if you respect your player's intelligence. If you have to start off with a side that's written as absolutely right, it's way political.

The way journos tend to talk about politics and values in video games is that somehow the dev's a Nazi for not forcing them on players and the players are idiots for not discussing them instead of continuing on with the actual gameplay.

Shit's just as irksome when some nutters started crying that Hat in Time put a spray of a trannyflag on a wall that most people missed until someone pointed it out. Some people are just desperate to find something political to bitch about to justify themselves as being some sort of voice of reason instead of a shrieking clown.

 

[Diesel Boogaloo]

If a game has any non-white or non-male staff working on it, it’s SJW propaganda. At least that’s what Mass Effect Andromeda detractors tell me.

Apolitical game:

SJW propaganda:

Spoiler: explanation

There were two versions of Tetris for NES.
The upper screenshot is the Atari version, developed by FUCKING WHITE MALES.
The lower screenshot is the Nintendo version, developed by oppressed PoCs.

 

[YourMommasBackstory]

Apolitical game:

SJW propaganda:

EXCUUUUUUUUSE ME, PRINCESS
but tetris was made by a slav commie