Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

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Sounds alot like my brother. "Taylor" and him have alot in common. Rage fits and overall being a huge blight to everyone around them.
Don't feel bad, I too ignored my brothers obvious red flags and catered to the pronouns they request. Also, I doubt Taylor went full in if he is similar to my brother. Dude can't even do a wig most days anymore but still requires everyone to cater to him. Most likely Taylor also can't afford it. It's much harder to try and appear female than these dudes can handle.
 
What's wild is that normie liberals on facebook are about 5 years behind on the talking points. They're still going "uh, actually sex and gender are two different things." Completely unaware that most trans people have long since abandoned that talking point.
This is why it's important to bring up the bleeding edge of the trans movement, like the Angela Long Chu article "The Moral Case For Letting Trans Kids Change Their Bodies", or the more whacked out things that trans people talk about. You need to tell people "no, this is what people are actually talking about," and cite your sources, or people straight up won't believe you.
 
This is why it's important to bring up the bleeding edge of the trans movement, like the Angela Long Chu article "The Moral Case For Letting Trans Kids Change Their Bodies", or the more whacked out things that trans people talk about. You need to tell people "no, this is what people are actually talking about," and cite your sources, or people straight up won't believe you.
Not sure if I’ve said it in this thread but the trans thing is so horrific that even when I talk to normie friends who are sceptical about gender nonsense I do release that I sound like I’m a lunatic as what I’m saying shouldn’t be possible in a civilised society.
 
Not sure if I’ve said it in this thread but the trans thing is so horrific that even when I talk to normie friends who are sceptical about gender nonsense I do release that I sound like I’m a lunatic as what I’m saying shouldn’t be possible in a civilised society.
Yeah, you need to watering it down before or they'll think you are some sort of Q-anon member who-got-trapped-by-them-poor-you-who-told-you-that?
Now I only give hints or take some bits without LGBTQ+ context. Like talking about how new, complex and dangerous uterus graft is on real women. Or how Lupron is used to chemically castrate animals / reduce libido in sex offenders and how it is ethically contested, etc etc. Then you let them join the dots by themselves later.
edit: the "real trans VS fakers" and "the fakes bully the real ones" seems to gain ground lately.
 
Or how Lupron is used to chemically castrate animals / reduce libido in sex offenders and how it is ethically contested, etc etc.
I noticed the Rainbow People don’t talk about Alan Turning anymore after the drug he was given to chemically castrate him and which contributed to his suicide is now being given to hecking valid trans kids
 
Yeah, you need to watering it down before or they'll think you are some sort of Q-anon member who-got-trapped-by-them-poor-you-who-told-you-that?
Now I only give hints or take some bits without LGBTQ+ context. Like talking about how new, complex and dangerous uterus graft is on real women. Or how Lupron is used to chemically castrate animals / reduce libido in sex offenders and how it is ethically contested, etc etc. Then you let them join the dots by themselves later.
edit: the "real trans VS fakers" and "the fakes bully the real ones" seems to gain ground lately.
When it comes to the people close to you, I really think you have to shock them. Never mind how insane you sound, you do sound insane.

All you can do is expose them to the truth as many times as you can without them turning on you. Then, maybe someday, they'll hear someone else who isn't you make a similar point in the wild, and they'll go, "Hey, wait a minute. This all very familiar. I've heard about this!"

That's my hope, at least.

It takes awhile.
 
I've been around many groups of strange people. Troons included. I have never liked trans people, or anyone that is apart of the LGBT+. I find them annoying, rather hostile to anyone that isn't gay or trans. But we aren't talking about gays, we're talking about trannies. I've always found their want, no, need, to be called by a certain name and a certain set of pronouns. It's blatant entitlement and severe mental illness. But I can't say anything, or I'll be labeled a "bigot." As if that means anything anymore. I should add, that I have been mostly indifferent to these people's existences. But now I am questioning my indifference.
 
Yeah, you need to watering it down before or they'll think you are some sort of Q-anon member who-got-trapped-by-them-poor-you-who-told-you-that?
This works better with acquaintances, in my opinion.

When it comes to puberty blockers, you can also bring up the well documented horrendous side effects that occurred in children who took them for precocious puberty. That one tends to stop people because most people aren't stupid* enough to assume that those side effects in PP kids won't occur in trans kids.

"Huh, maybe little Jody should go back to being Jimmy before his spine crumbles to dust and he loses 7-15 IQ points, like what happened with those precocious puberty kids."

*NPR brainrotted folks excluded, as always.
All you can do is expose them to the truth as many times as you can without them turning on you. Then, maybe someday, they'll hear someone else who isn't you make a similar point in the wild, and they'll go, "Hey, wait a minute. This all very familiar. I've heard about this!"
I hope so. I really really do. I'd hate to think that some of the people I care about most will be stuck in this abyss of denial forever.
 
When it comes to the people close to you, I really think you have to shock them. Never mind how insane you sound, you do sound insane

Agreed. On the very rare occasion I have to talk about it with someone, I'll bring up John Money and point them towards Jim's "How the Sausage is Made" video (wish he made a festering wound one also, but i can see why he went the pooner route instead).

No arguing required, no "opinions" have to be shared. Simply stating and showing.
 
I had some very nasty personal run-ins with troons myself over the years, just a lot of narcissists, sex-pests and the like. I was always a lot more left-leaning so I just dismissed these as ''bad apples'' and that there must be some good ones out there too (after all, I had known a few who weren't completely crazy. Just slightly). There was nothing wrong with transgenderism, I thought. Those people on FOX news and the like were just nutcases. I seriously peaked due to a series of tranny mass-hysteria events in (very male-dominated) communities I was a part of.

The first major spergout happened in the community of a game called Guilty Gear Strive. A character got revealed who had in past games been a boy in a nun's gown who was essentially forced (read: groomed) into dressing and presenting like a girl because of some religious superstitions in the village where he came from. Now at the time, this was presented as a bad thing. His story arc in previous games had been about proving himself as a man and disproving the superstitions in the process. I hadn't been a fan of him in previous games, just not my kinda character, but he had a genuinely pretty good redesign so I was excited. I already knew and was anticipating a small-scale tranny sperg event of them trying to claim this feminine man as trans (this always happens), but I knew they'd be dismissed as nutcases. Turns out, the game actually decides he's trans now! The grooming was succesful, and he'd rather be a girl now (he was talked into this by another character, who happens to be a CIA agent, you cannot make this up). I thought there'd be tranny outrage over the story implying the ''trans groomer'' narrative, but no. That character got claimed as a trans icon. I had people in my circles troon out, and despite never having played the game, they immediately chose that character as their entire online persona. Of course, any opposition claiming reasonable things like ''isn't it a bit weird how they made a grooming victim the token trans character?'' or ''why is this non-conforming male character forced to be a girl, aren't we for non-conformity?'' were quickly screeched out of the room by the usual types. I felt like I was taking crazy pills. Seeing the vitriol spouted over this was crazy. The worst part is is how this is a tranny game now, even within the wider fighting game community this is known as the tranny game. Shit sucks man, that game was fun :(

The second one happened shortly after, and regarded the Happy Potter game. I'm fairly certain that this is like a mass-peaking event, really goes to show how trannies are their own worst enemies. I was shocked at the sheer amount of anger and bullying spouted over such an innocuous thing, so I was convinced that Rowling must've said some Hitler 2.0 shit, but no, she just expressed doubts on the same level of your inappropriate aunt at the dinner table. Trannies never tried to engage and inform her about transgenderism, they just labelled her a TERF and made her out to be mega Hitler, which of course caused Rowling to take a stronger stance and more actively oppose troons (how could that possibly happen??). I saw how especially female streamers were harassed and bullied, how frequently the term ''TERF'' was just thrown around to dismiss any woman not sucking the girldick, and how misogynistic that seemed. How TERF lost all its meaning, and just came to mean ''women we don't like''. I started realising how many trannies are just incels who adopted a different dangerous and misogynistic ideology than the vanilla ones do. I never was a hardcore feminist type either, but you'd think that they'd atleast listen and try to compromise with the people whose spaces they were trying to access? I still find the complete dismissal of women's wants a really disturbing part of TRA ideology.

My breaking point was realising they have succesfully weaponized suicide on a massive scale. I've had to deal with people (a lot of trannies) in the past who've threatened with suicide, and it's a really messed up and psycho thing to do. It's holding a gun to someone's (your own) head and forcing someone to comply with your demands lest you pull the trigger and make them "responsible" for your death. Of course, they never do kill themselves, and you figure this out after you run into a few of these types. The reason trannies get away with all their shit is because suicide is a core part of their ideology. If you do not give in to their demands, they will self-inflect genocide, and it will be YOUR fault.
 
When it comes to the people close to you, I really think you have to shock them. Never mind how insane you sound, you do sound insane.
I think it depend. Some of my relatives yes, but some others are too prideful so trying to shock them isn't enough (or worst they double down). Both worked for me.
But in LGBTQ+ association the hint strategy works well, perhaps because some already know deep down and feel less alone now.
In the end sticking the information in a corner of their brain is the goal.
 
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The suicide threats really bother me. In literally any other context saying you'll kill yourself if people don't indulge your whims or treat you favorably is correctly viewed as manipulative and a form of emotional abuse. We had really gotten to a place in society a few years ago where this behavior was recognized as harmful and now look where we are.

As for the "gender affirming care is lifesaving" crap, I'm not aware of any other medical situation where saying "if I don't get this precise treatment right now I will kill myself" is met with "well then we need to remove every barrier between you and that treatment." How is an actively suicidal person a viable candidate for hormone treatment or major surgery? It boggles the mind.
 
I’m trying not to power level but there’s a 6’2” man in a dress sitting less than two yards from me right now in a pub, proper five o’clock shadow and everything.

In my own living memory that guy would have been Minecrafted in Minecraft for poncing about like that in this area but it seems he’s being collectively ignored.

I feel like David Attenborough observing a strange new species in a new habitat.

I’ve ever seen someone look so completely nervous and out of place full of joy before.
 
I’m trying not to power level but there’s a 6’2” man in a dress sitting less than two yards from me right now in a pub, proper five o’clock shadow and everything.

In my own living memory that guy would have been Minecrafted in Minecraft for poncing about like that in this area but it seems he’s being collectively ignored.

I feel like David Attenborough observing a strange new species in a new habitat.

I’ve ever seen someone look so completely nervous and out of place full of joy before.
Ask him if he's cut his dick off yet, and volunteer to do it for him if he hasn't.
 
Ask him if he's cut his dick off yet, and volunteer to do it for him if he hasn't.
I’ve never been this close to one before. Cunt is sitting very still unless he’s taking a sip of a pint of strike through a straw. He’s just had a very manly looking burger arrive for his meal

I was hoping he was waiting for a date to see what the hell that looked like.

I might stay for another beer to see if he “IT’S MADAM” at anyone.
 
Initially they looked like a revival of the Brit pop look popularized by Blur and Elastica in the mid-90s. Waif-ish, mid length sort of floppy hair, androgynous dress.

Hence why they all deserve to be thrown into a mid 90s mosh pit at a thrash metal show in an underground club.
I think front stage at a GG Allin show would be best.
 
I think front stage at a GG Allin show would be best.
I see why you might say this!

Wrong, they would absolutely enjoy being at the front at a GG Allin concert.
But I do have to agree with this. Jen of the tranch for instance would not have to bring his own snacks.

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I was thinking this.

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Maybe trapping them in a circle pit?

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Or a pit, with these fine Sepultura Fans?
 
First had my doubts about hormones, etc. and MTF aggression and being dangerous for women in 2015. Needed money, asked in a local LGBT community board if someone had jobs. Was pretty desperate, as in skipping meals to feed the cat and using rags as pads. So I ignored the aggression and red flags, and went to help a locally well-known trans woman move. Semi well known trans in an artistic space, had lots to move.

This person immediately seemed really stressed and angry, and put me on edge, because I’d spent a lot of time growing up dealing with male anger, and this felt the same.

It’s not an excuse, but I made a mistake that messed up the move to some extent (literally misheard directions and reversed “move A to B, don’t touch C,” probably because I was literally hungry all the time and stressed out due to the person’s anger and attitude).

And this individual went fucking BALLISTIC on me. Literal tantrum. I mention here that we were alone in a warehouse and this person was over a foot taller than me and twice my weight. A normal person would have been annoyed or a little mad, but not made me feel physically threatened.

This individual screamed, swore, and took my car keys until they were “done” yelling at me. Literally kept me from leaving. I felt like I was twelve again and watching my dad rage.

I did get my small amount of promised money, but it wasn’t worth how scared this person made me. And as I hurried out of the warehouse, I heard something behind me, and ducked. They’d thrown a heavy fucking prop at me, would have seriously hurt me if it had connected.

Not long after this happened, when they actually made said move they needed help with, they had to fly and live-tweeted every detail and problem with TSA on the way. (Yes, scanners suck and an agent has to press one “gender” button or another, which can be a problem for not only trans, but effeminate and butch people- but this person immediately went to aggression, insisted on a pat down by a female who was uncomfortable with it, and almost got arrested for being belligerent). I laughed. Karma!
 
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