Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[Aunt Carol]

I think I have an idea of the sort you recently saw if what wonders @Aunt Carol shared in the SRS Horrors thread show anything. Kill that Cronenberg shit with fire.

Well, fine; guess someone doesn't want to see the Anal Gnome.

Spoiler: contains anal gnome

 

[glass_houses]

Well, fine; guess someone doesn't want to see the Anal Gnome.

Interesting, but if I were of the mind to, I could probably counter with things like soft toy dogs with "convenient inserts", explicit advertisements for "custom" large inflatable characters, and anatomically accurate "miniature" realistic sex dolls.

But I won't because I don't want that shit in my phone.

 

[Fapcop]

Well, fine; guess someone doesn't want to see the Anal Gnome.

Spoiler: contains anal gnome

View attachment 6334599

Porn strikes again.

I refuse to believe that there’s any natural market for these things.

Nobody, except maybe the most degenerate of faggots, go: “Gee, I wish I could have a bit of plastic 5cm up my poop chute!”

Porn popularizes this nonsense, and gives men fetish fodder and “bright ideas” to “spice up” their marriage. (Despite the fact that few women enjoy anal sex.) But on Pornhub they moan and squeal the minute they get something up their bleached anus, so it’s gotta work, right?

 

[Polexia Aphrodisia]

I think the Anal Gnome is pretty hilarious as a joke gift, personally. If you have that kind of money to throw away on sex toys as a joke, that is.

 

[2mm and 99 others]

Anyone with a 3D printer can make such joke gifts nowadays, finding or making the right blister for that is the biggest problem, I think. Years ago there were literal bags of dicks 3D printed in our local uni's workshop, in the form of cursed chess sets.

 

[armfleshween]

Obscenely wealthy corporate and political interests are shoving it down the public's throat via media astroturfing and government propaganda, that's how. Agendas include:

• Human sterilization and population reduction (courtesy of the Green New Deal and the so-called Progressive Left)
• Grooming children for genderless sexual malleability and lifelong abuse (courtesy the LGBTQ+++ pedos, the Epstein inner circle, NAMBLA, etc.)
• Destroying the military readiness of the West via TikTok and other social media venues (courtesy of the CCP)

"Face the wall faggots"

Sorry for obvs reasons ()

Some of what I say is a stretch but it really shouldn't shocking that gender ideology really started to pick up speed right when more and more news about foreign meddling, foreign propaganda and agents having impacts on the elections and media sphere in the West started popping up.

Whether you believe so and so is the True Foreign Propagandist, it doesn't matter as modern propaganda relies on telling multiple contradictory narratives versus simply lying. Each fake news story is ideology bait, so it really doesn't have to be a right v left thing because its quite obvious all sides are being targeted. And with October 7th I think we can really see just how absolute BS it is that the right is having this stereotype for being misinfo-brained when the left is just as misinfo-brained in regard to trans ideology, Israel-Palestine, and BLM. In terms of impact, the left is worse as there's more of them in academia, government, so on and so forth.

Whether its the leftist TiMmy liar Alejandra Caraballo who discredited the Cass Report just hours before it dropped because of his early access to the document as he's a lecturer on CYBERSECURITY at Harvard, or some other bumbling 13 year old crying about Israel apparently raping civilians with dogs, its all to sell an ideology.

I think in general its a lot less connected than one would think. It's no Illuminati doing this, it's akin to mass psychosis. People danced themselves to death with nobody orchestrating it. Our society is just being flooded with shit meant to stir up discourse, and for the left, which is more focused on emotions versus logical reasoning, transgenderism is the perfect issue to latch onto. It's a tragedy caused by good intentions for the most part. But there have to be some who recognize the shit they're pulling because they are predators. I would not be surprised if Caraballo is one of those people.

The other day I did call this shite "roundabout eugenics" as there is a comorbidity of gender dysphoria and autism. With autistic people being unable to really understand social cues and social norms, they aren't going to naturally fit into this perceived binary. And for those who are self aware of this, these feelings can transform into them thinking they were born wrong. But instead of letting morbidly obese middle-aged male autists just wear dresses as they rock back and forth in public, we now have to turn their dicks inside out. But of course not every autist is stuck watching youtube kids, but it really is Evil once you see that currently about 6-24% of trans people are autistic, compared to the global population of autistic people is 1%. It's so twisted how all these Axis of Evil now disguise themselves in woke-ass language.

For example, here's a passage from the Hamas military wing's "about us" page on qassam.ps (use the wayback machine):

"Palestine is the cause of a people who have been let down by a world that fails to secure their rights and restore to them what has been usurped from them, a people whose land continues to suffer one of the worst types of occupation in this world. Palestine is a land that was seized by a racist, anti-human and colonial Zionist project that was founded on a false promise..."

I wouldn't say it's physically impacting military readiness, but it sure is a piece in the pie that is causing a lot of distrust in our institutions (whether justified or not) and our ideals as a whole. Nobody is going to want to die for America if they don't care about America or what America is supposed to represent.

In general its crazy how so many people understand that there is some shit going on, but have trouble on identifying the primary target. It's Russia. They've been playing all of us for a decade, and they do not care which side of the isle you are, they just want a disillusioned America. We ain't doing enough.

 

[Chieftain Coke Peanut]

I peaked just about as soon as I had to interact with one for a decent length of time. There was one at my high school but I, and no one else for that matter, really talked to them so I didn't know the real level of fuckery that goes on. I just thought autistic weirdo, no harm done just stay away.

One of my first jobs I had I had to interact with a loud and proud troon. All for HRT on kids, cracking eggs, they even advocated for SRS on fucking teens and shit. That instantly raised my eyebrows as I hope it would for reasonable people. Made me dive down the rabbit hole and I saw how transgenderism is sold as magic that instantly solves your problems, gives you new purpose in life, depression is gone, you'll turn heads as you walk by, anything you could ever hope for other troons promise you hoping to crack your egg.

It's really fucked up to say that to autistics and retards who can't tell you are lying to their face. At this point I really do believe it's pushed by pharma companies just to make money. Lifelong supply of HRT drugs, endless surgeries and revisions to turn you into something you can never be, and it all just so happens to originate in a country with for profit healthcare. Mighty convenient.

I have sympathy for transgender people as soon as they stop drinking the kool-aid. Having to accept they butchered their one and only body is a tough thing to do however.

 

[Fapcop]

In general its crazy how so many people understand that there is some shit going on, but have trouble on identifying the primary target. It's Russia. They've been playing all of us for a decade, and they do not care which side of the isle you are, they just want a disillusioned America. We ain't doing enough.

Reddit is that way, boomer. ==>

Damn, this years crop of new posters really have been shitty, hasn’t it?

I blame the Rekieta meltdown and the fact that Reddit have started to ban even normies and turbofaggots.

 

[AnOminous]

In general its crazy how so many people understand that there is some shit going on, but have trouble on identifying the primary target. It's Russia.

And China has nothing to do with it? Literally every single country in the world, including ISRAEL, which I am generally considered a shill for here just by telling the truth, constantly floods our media with shit attempting to push their own self-interested agenda.

EVERY country in the goddamn world does this. Some are just better at it than others. We (and I mean "we" to mean amerilards) do it too, sometimes really well.

But yeah it's totally Russia. Russia is the only country with bots. And retards. And useful idiots. And useless idiots.

 

[bouquetnine]

Reddit is that way, boomer. ==>

Damn, this years crop of new posters really have been shitty, hasn’t it?

I blame the Rekieta meltdown and the fact that Reddit have started to ban even normies and turbofaggots.

Russia defectors did admit they had a multi-generational plan to destabilize America and it seems to be playing out just like Yuri Bezmenov stated, though about 20 years behind schedule.

 

[Tago Mago]

When I had to deal with some troons online, I used to be a supporter, but their attitude was so exaggeratedly dramatic, it was fucking insane. I still get along with a couple pooners but that's it. Luckily where I live the troon virus isn't as widespread... yet.

And when I saw many of the forums I used to post frequently back in the late 00s/early 10s become pretty much police states where language was strictly monitored by troon mods. I'm not gonna PL too much but one of them had borderline 4channer humor back in the day, and now it's a liberal hugbox hellhole, I hate it.

And finally, the Farms convinced me there was no reason to back them up, even the "truscum" ones. It lacks any kind of logical explanation.

I simply can't be myself anymore online in this day and age, to the point a forum like this (which I wouldn't have joined back in the day) is the only place I'd be able to semi-express myself, and I fucking hate how troons, like the little useful idiots they are, for the corpos, helped destroy the old internet.

 

[Fapcop]

Russia defectors did admit they had a multi-generational plan to destabilize America and it seems to be playing out just like Yuri Bezmenov stated, though about 20 years behind schedule.

Hmm, yes… Everyone who contributes to the destabilization is born in America, but surely it’s Russia!

After all, a guy who got paid for his “testimony” and made a solid living off it for years, said it was the Soviet Union that did it, a nation that doesn’t even exist anymore.

It’s perfectly logical you see!

 

[Zhores Medvedev]

I hit peak trans when some former friends (All of whom were biological women, I've never known a MTF) chose one day to become men. They all looked like the pooner serotype to a T. I watched as fairly normal likable people turned in to absolute dumpster fires. One killed herself after chestbinding and feeling so "valid". Her and I had known each other for 8 years

Two paired off and I think are dating now but have pushed everyone out of their lives and by all accounts are huge assholes. One was this lanky and fairly tall girl who changed her name like 4 or 5 times in the time I knew her, she ended up getting assaulted in a bathroom in a super fucking shady area because she insisted on using the men's room. I remember her telling me this and she just started balling in front of me. I didn't know what to do. I wanted to say "Men are pigs, you shouldn't go into the men's room" but earlier that week I'd heard her blathering about how she "needed to use the men's room, its so validating". After that she stopped going to her job and I never saw her again.

Its a running tally of about 6 women who have had their lives ruined that I have known and 2 have committed suicide. I've never fell for any of this gender shit, but the completely preventable deaths and abuse was when I started to hate it. I remember one of the girls said she wanted to have kids, she cant any more.

 

[Donkey Kongus]

I hit peak trans when some former friends (All of whom were biological women, I've never known a MTF) chose one day to become men. They all looked like the pooner serotype to a T. I watched as fairly normal likable people turned in to absolute dumpster fires. One killed herself after chestbinding and feeling so "valid". Her and I had known each other for 8 years

Two paired off and I think are dating now but have pushed everyone out of their lives and by all accounts are huge assholes. One was this lanky and fairly tall girl who changed her name like 4 or 5 times in the time I knew her, she ended up getting assaulted in a bathroom in a super fucking shady area because she insisted on using the men's room. I remember her telling me this and she just started balling in front of me. I didn't know what to do. I wanted to say "Men are pigs, you shouldn't go into the men's room" but earlier that week I'd heard her blathering about how she "needed to use the men's room, its so validating". After that she stopped going to her job and I never saw her again.

Its a running tally of about 6 women who have had their lives ruined that I have known and 2 have committed suicide. I've never fell for any of this gender shit, but the completely preventable deaths and abuse was when I started to hate it. I remember one of the girls said she wanted to have kids, she cant any more.

Fuck, that's intense. Only speaking from personal experience here, but I've seen more FtM's burn out in a much more depressing way. The MtF's I've seen will usually die on the hill of "my true self is a woman", but when pooners admit they've been played by the corpos and TRA's (if they ever do), it fuckin' crushes them.

That last bit about one of the girls wanting kids and then transitioning really enforces the idea that 96% of the time, trooning/pooning out is a permanent "solution" to a temporary problem.

Stories like these are just depressing.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

I hit peak trans when some former friends (All of whom were biological women, I've never known a MTF) chose one day to become men. They all looked like the pooner serotype to a T. I watched as fairly normal likable people turned in to absolute dumpster fires. One killed herself after chestbinding and feeling so "valid". Her and I had known each other for 8 years

Two paired off and I think are dating now but have pushed everyone out of their lives and by all accounts are huge assholes. One was this lanky and fairly tall girl who changed her name like 4 or 5 times in the time I knew her, she ended up getting assaulted in a bathroom in a super fucking shady area because she insisted on using the men's room. I remember her telling me this and she just started balling in front of me. I didn't know what to do. I wanted to say "Men are pigs, you shouldn't go into the men's room" but earlier that week I'd heard her blathering about how she "needed to use the men's room, its so validating". After that she stopped going to her job and I never saw her again.

Its a running tally of about 6 women who have had their lives ruined that I have known and 2 have committed suicide. I've never fell for any of this gender shit, but the completely preventable deaths and abuse was when I started to hate it. I remember one of the girls said she wanted to have kids, she cant any more.

That is extremely rough to go through that many.

It angers me that that it is an uncommon experience now, especially in the gay and lesbian communities. Especially the lesbian one. It’s common to see other lesbians in the trans grieving thread becoming paranoid that they’ll be next because troonery has infested lesbians that much. It’s like not being a hetero girly girl warrants death now.

On the other end, a friend of mine once told me that virtually all the men on a server she used to frequent had trooned out. Every single one. I could imagine maybe one or two coming out, but this was apparently a large chatroom. All of them???

There is a real social contagion going on. One that preys on one’s internalized fears and takes advantage of stereotyping. So many young people (and children) being groomed into irreparably destroying their bodies and lives because they played with the “wrong” toy or liked the same sex.

Similarly, for the one that is now sterilized after transition, I wouldn’t be surprised if much of medical troonery is eugenics prettied up and loopholed. You can’t straight up sterilize a mentally ill woman, but if you tell her she’s a man and to take testosterone or have a hysterectomy to become her “real” self? There you go.

That last bit about one of the girls wanting kids and then transitioning really enforces the idea that 96% of the time, trooning/pooning out is a permanent "solution" to a temporary problem.

For all their propaganda, I have never seen a troon become happier after transitioning. Troonery destroys everything it touches.

It really may as well be regarded as a form of suicide since it requires “killing” the original person for an impossibility. A gay person is a gay person, like a black person is black or an old person old. A woman can never be made into a man, no matter how much testosterone or skin flaying she endures. Tricking them into thinking otherwise is evil, regardless of what else they had going on.

Shit’s fucked when not even getting therapy is a good option, because they’re often just as pozzed as the surgeons. Goddamn can I not wait for the day of reckoning against this shit, even if the damage is already done.

 

[AssignedEva]

On the other end, a friend of mine once told me that virtually all the men on a server she used to frequent had trooned out. Every single one. I could imagine maybe one or two coming out, but this was apparently a large chatroom. All of them??? There is a real social contagion going on. One that preys on one’s internalized fears and takes advantage of stereotyping.

I think it's possibly a function of cognitive dissonance.

I never got further than "trans people feel like they're another gender on the inside, and it causes them a lot of distress, so we should help them by letting them transition and you can kind of see some of them were "meant to be" that gender so I don't have an issue viewing them as such in some contexts... although some people say they're trans but they're not really". 20 years ago that was insanely woke. 10 years ago that was just about right. Now it's verboten (and anyway I've backslid viewpoint, obviously).

But if you're the sort of person who gets wound up about wrongthink - not just "I need to play along" but "I am not allowed to even think the things I'm thinking! I'm a terrible person", it must put you under a lot of pressure. So if you're brainwashing yourself that trans women are women and trans men are men, and that medically speaking they can fully change not just gender but biological sex, and there's no such thing as biological sex anyway, and you're a terrible person if you even think of the person in front of you as being their birth sex (etc etc), I guess it must brain break you in a way. At that point if someone says to you "maybe you're transgender", rather than the normal response of "that's ridiculous, I'm obviously not" it may instead lead to "yes, I must be, I have to change sex immediately because now I know that I'm trans I'll kill myself if I don't transition". Because you've become divorced from reality and you're suppressing the part of your brain that questions dogma.

It's maybe something like the Skoptsy. Cutting off your genitals and breasts is insane, doing so in the middle of a society that at best ridiculed you and at worse persecuted you for doing so is even more insane. But if you were already pious and self-flagellating (metaphorically or literally) over how sinful and disgusting you were in the eyes of the Lord, then someone in your ear telling you that Original Sin was Adam and Eve having sex - and the only way to sanctify yourself was to remove the parts of that sin that had been grafted onto your body, turning you into the form you were meant to be? You can see a similar mechanism. It might be another pipeline that we've not really considered.

 

[Tetopettenson]

I hit peak trans when some former friends (All of whom were biological women, I've never known a MTF) chose one day to become men. They all looked like the pooner serotype to a T. I watched as fairly normal likable people turned in to absolute dumpster fires. One killed herself after chestbinding and feeling so "valid". Her and I had known each other for 8 years

Two paired off and I think are dating now but have pushed everyone out of their lives and by all accounts are huge assholes. One was this lanky and fairly tall girl who changed her name like 4 or 5 times in the time I knew her, she ended up getting assaulted in a bathroom in a super fucking shady area because she insisted on using the men's room. I remember her telling me this and she just started balling in front of me. I didn't know what to do. I wanted to say "Men are pigs, you shouldn't go into the men's room" but earlier that week I'd heard her blathering about how she "needed to use the men's room, its so validating". After that she stopped going to her job and I never saw her again.

Its a running tally of about 6 women who have had their lives ruined that I have known and 2 have committed suicide. I've never fell for any of this gender shit, but the completely preventable deaths and abuse was when I started to hate it. I remember one of the girls said she wanted to have kids, she cant any more.

jesus fuck im so sorry to hear that. of all the mtfs i know the majority seem like they could snap at any second and commit suicide and it scares me. like i just want so badly to tell them that they can enjoy all of the "masculine" stuff they do without going through all of this hardship and that its sadly regular for a woman not to feel comfortable in her own skin but i know for a fact they wouldnt listen and would cut me off sooner than a tim with his dick.

until recently i never even questioned trans people to myself, they were just people who didnt feel at home in their bodies and that made enough sense to me. i peaked when i realized how fucking harmful it is to tell anyone who doesnt 100% love their body that they must be trans. ive got a friend who literally admitted to me that she never had dysphoria and knew she could never be a biological man and now shes on fucking testosterone. she got on it in the span of a month. does it not seem a bit insane to give male hormones to a woman who was fine admitting that she doesnt have the literal condition these hormones are "supposed" to treat???

Spoiler: spoiler bc im just getting emotional now

im probably biased because i love this woman more than anyone else but jfc. ill stay with her even if she ends up with a weird frog voice or her skin breaks out or she grows hair all over or she has me stay in the hospital with her after getting her tits chopped off, if it means at the end of it shell realize that shes just a woman who didnt think of herself as beautiful. i think shes fucking amazing and i wish i could talk some sense into her. we really do live in a clown world holy shit

 

[Nick Obre]

i think shes fucking amazing and i wish i could talk some sense into her

TALK SOME FUCKING SENSE INTO HER

 

[shrimping]

I've always had an interest in lolcows and weird internet stuff, so I've been a casual KF and a very persistent LCF lurker for a long while. I just didn't care much for the politics of both these websites. In 2020 and 2021 my nerdy and artsy friends trooned out en masse. It didn't take me a long while to notice how nearly all of them fit neatly into stereotypes I've known from the internet - the depressed self harming womanchild with an abusive family and no positive female role models, the genderfluid art school chick who think she turns into a boy when she wears pants, her boyfriend who just goes along with it and chooses to he/they himself, the butch lesbian living in the backwards part of the country, the lonely autist who rediscovered himself as a bisexual sex goddess when he got his hands on adderall etc etc... I really didn't care before, you wouldn't be able to actually meet these people in real life before the pandemic hit. From that point I went from passively supportive to "transmed" to peaking very quickly.

 

[Aunt Carol]

I just didn't care much for the politics of both these websites.

I've said this before, but look at older threads--especially ones that used to be in the Tumblr subforum. KF was a lot more live-and-let-live about troons even a few years ago.

Some of the change is this a rare safe place to talk freely about transgenderism, and thus drawing people who want to do so. Or people whose previous hangouts were overrun by trans activists. Some of it is the more accepting posters leaving when the anti-trans influx hit. But some of it is previously polite, reasonable transmedical-leaning posters being peaked by the trans actions toward KF specifically.