Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[Death of an Ego]

I'm not trying to be a dick outright on my second account, but really? If you read my post, all that is covered. The real meat of the argument is that trans ppl are being used for political ends, and there are far bigger assholes enriching themselves off all the misplaced altruism, whether it be trans shit, or whatever the left wing cause du jour is. It has never been about republicans and democrats, that's politics dumbed down to a binary for revenue.

This may be an unpopular opinion here, but trans ppl are still people, as abhorrent and disgusting as some of their lives are documented here. I'm not a fan of the trend, I'm not a fan of the idiocy, but I will stand firm in the stance that I want to hear their voices too. If I seek to silence them, who do I go to for the truth? They won't go away because I wish that to be so, so even though I can't stand their hypocrisy and bullshit, why would I trust a fabrication meant to smear them?

I want to hear it all, and make my own opinions and decisions. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

I should clear this one up, because read a certain way, it essentially makes me seem like I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth, or countermanding what I said in the post I made before it.

All trans people have a few screws loose, some far more than others, but all of them have some form of mental disconnect. We are talking about a group of people who wish to live as the opposite sex instead of putting in the effort to be comfortable as who they really are, after all.

When I say I want to hear from them, that I don't wish to silence them, I'm not coming from a position of empathy from them, it's more a desire to hear where they are coming from in order to inform my actions and decisions. It's unlikely in the extreme that I would ever agree with them on much, but I still think silencing them because I vehemently disagree with what some of them are doing and pushing would be a miscalculation at best, and very dangerous at worst. In my opinion, the trans stuff, and the push for it, is a manifestation of the actions of a well connected group, if not a cabal, of people who's dispassionate manipulation of the masses is only informed by their disregard of such and their greed. To me, the politics involved are just another political circus to keep eyes off their true ends.

There are two competing "truths" to this kind of thing. One which is real, that transgender ideology is a total lie, and the other, that is what these people live with and think, which is false. If you silence them, you remove part of your ability to effect change against those who are pushing this pack of lies.

 

[The Ugly One]

That Conservatives are “shit on women’s rights” is of course a leftist talking point and patently untrue.

The right is against special treatment and protected classes, including legislative special action on feminist talking points.

That’s about how “shut they are on women’s issues, unless you include welfare and gibs as “women’s issues”.

Why don't you just listen to women tell you what their issues are rather than telling them what their issues should be? The fact is, the most important women's issue is feeling emotionally validated by posting about how they vote on social media. It's the smug sense of satisfaction they get from putting a "Hate Has No Home Here" sign on their lawn. The right sucks at delivering this core need to women.

The right, by being vocally in favor of forcibly excluding dangerous people from society, including homeless addicts, violent felons, and, in the subject of this thread, cross-dressing pedophiles, is decidedly anti-woman. If you cared about women, you'd be in favor of letting bums piss everywhere, for letting black rapists out of prison early, and for letting mentally ill, cross-dressing pedophiles into the school.

 

[Freya]

I always hated them because sob stories dont work on me

 

[redcent]

Because I'm bored atm...

If you really want to get rid of abortion and unwanted pregnancies, go hangout on a street corner and preach comprehensive sexual education to the masses, not catechism.

On one hand I think abortion should be legal (think of all the severely disabled or cancer struck babies) but I don't think sex education is the cure all and that abstinence is the bane of everything .

Yay you prevented pregnancies. There's still a bunch of teens who never learn to control themselves and grow up to be creeps. AFAIK (it might be different elsewhere) sex ed never tackles self control, mostly just STDs and stuff. Instead we have a wave of sex positivity that says it's wrong to tell anyone not to express x sexuality, and that any feeling you have of disastaste is wrong and violent.

And I ask myself why?

The conservatives have their own sex creep problems, but the left isn't crash hot either.

 

[Autistic Albatross]

Always hated being a girl, and felt downright suicidal at times. Add to that the fact that I was not aware of the concept of homosexuality, so felt that my affections for a female classmate were unnatural and downright disgusting. I went over to Reddit, and started frequenting tranny subreddits. Big mistake. Tried to give the thing a try initially. Soon, joined a few Discord chat-rooms. It was horrible.
It felt like an absolute sausage-fest. When they were not discussing about their fetishes and weird mommy incest fantasies, they were plotting on how to "pass". They believed that they could just put on make-up, voice-train to make their voice shrill, and giggle while acting the dumb. Others discussed strategies to "tuck in their penii" (don't ask) and roofie their dates to get laid. What. The. Fuck. Shit hit the fan when one of them tried to groom me into sending nudes. I deleted everything and did not go back.
I still loathe my current state of being, but at least I am not a deluded pervert.

 

[doodoocaca]

Do those discords still exist?

 

[Moosebonker]

Always hated being a girl, and felt downright suicidal at times. Add to that the fact that I was not aware of the concept of homosexuality, so felt that my affections for a female classmate were unnatural and downright disgusting. I went over to Reddit, and started frequenting tranny subreddits. Big mistake. Tried to give the thing a try initially. Soon, joined a few Discord chat-rooms. It was horrible.
It felt like an absolute sausage-fest. When they were not discussing about their fetishes and weird mommy incest fantasies, they were plotting on how to "pass". They believed that they could just put on make-up, voice-train to make their voice shrill, and giggle while acting the dumb. Others discussed strategies to "tuck in their penii" (don't ask) and roofie their dates to get laid. What. The. Fuck. Shit hit the fan when one of them tried to groom me into sending nudes. I deleted everything and did not go back.
I still loathe my current state of being, but at least I am not a deluded pervert.

If I had not been peaked a long time ago, your story probably would have done it for me.

Sounds like this happened while you were still quite young and you probably still are.

I'm so old, any advice I give to young people would receive the reply 'Get fucked Grandpa'.

Share your story far and wide in normie zones everywhere.

They need to hear it from their peers. Never relent.

 

[Cannibal Machine]

I hit peak trans in mid 2021 when I realized that it was primarily manipulative bullshitting and speech policing while giving them the "moral high ground".


Newfag so I'll try not to PL too much, but I run in discord servers (yeah, yeah, it's like the Midas touch but instead of gold its troonism and degeneracy), but in one of the intros, someone wrote "I'm a he/him lesbian" and I was so offended that words literally stopped having meaning that it knocked sense into my usual "live and let live" attitude. Then when you question these obnoxious fucks they act like you're the one with a malfunction and turn all your friends against you bwahhing any twansphobia.


Hats, but those fuckers can lick my fucking dick and I have never felt the amount of schadenfreude I have when I found the GRS thread here and see them sterilize themselves and hopefully won't pass their dumbass ideologies to more children.


I got doubly peaked when I realized that if I was any younger, that probably would have been me. I was a loser in high school and like any teenager was an attention whore so the fact that people try to uwu-ify "transing your gender" when it literally sterilizes people who are gullible and is NOT a decision you can just backtrack from pisses me off. Nobody is 100% comfortable in their own body and preying on that weakness is literally evil. Especially when they try to witch hunt anyone who says "Maaaaybe you shouldn't do that and just be gender nonconforming?" and then have the audacity to cry "Oh no! No one stopped me from taking these irreversible actions and now my life is ruined!" No accountability at all in their lives. Get fucked, troons. Enjoy your 41%.

 

[Slur Generator]

When I first heard they exist. It was a documentary about people that wanted to chop body parts and trans. Its like a weird form of envy. Lil weirdo sees people being extra nice to cripples and women and is jealous that someone else gets attention

 

[Pizza Time]

and see them sterilize themselves and hopefully won't pass their dumbass ideologies to more children.

See, this is the part that worries me. Yeah, most of them removed their ability to spread their mental disorders into their own children, but there's little stopping them from trying to spread it onto our children.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Growing up as a early Zoomer, now into my 20's, I got to see it happen first hand. 8th or 9th grade is when they started putting those LGBT alliance club things in schools. I saw my friends change. People that were straight suddenly "gay" or "bisexual". Trans started getting thrown around too, and once my young ass understood they would snip your dick off, i was horrified.

But back to the kids. Thing is none of them turned out happy. There was a girl, we'll call her June. Poor girl, had spinal issues. In 6th grade they stuck rods into her back to straighten it out. Very traumatic. June was kind of goth, into anime, which looking back, might have been a coping mechanism, but this is speculation. As the years passed she got into the gay stuff, and she got less happy. We went to different high schools but stayed in the same neighborhood, but occasionally, I would see her or at least think I did on my walks, albeit rarely. Hair dyed, massive weight gain, and looking more miserable than ever.

Then bumped into her father a while back at Walmart. He changed from when I was young. He looked frailer, from stress i think. I could tell he was shopping for her, looking at the anime section. We talked, and this gruff man I thought I remembered turned out to not be so scary. I don't know what's happened to June, what's she's done with her life, but I fear the worst.

This troon ideology is one hell of a drug, even when not at full effect, and I oppose it with everything I have.

 

[Cannibal Machine]

See, this is the part that worries me. Yeah, most of them removed their ability to spread their mental disorders into their own children, but there's little stopping them from trying to spread it onto our children.

(Sorry if this reply is fucky, still learning then forum layout)

Yeah, you're completely right. I want to hope that the pendulum swings and the younger generations naturally rebel as they get older and realize how fucked the whole thing is... but I know that's definitely an outlook. There are already kids that are screwed for life, with people like Jazz and Kim Petras.

It's even worse because no matter how much you shelter them or explain why it isn't a good idea, any kid is still at risk, just by sheer nature of being an impressionable child. As the mainstream fights to normalize this kind of degeneracy, what are you even supposed to do? Kids really don't stand a chance and they never even get a chance to experience the life they're missing out on. Tragic.

And in an attempt not to completely doompill, a fun new way to trigger trannies: I was thinking about how fragile FTMs were and I think it would be really funny to meet one and say, "Wow, you would have made a pretty girl!" Either you trigger a spergout or they realize they're on a doomed path. Win-win.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

I want to hope that the pendulum swings and the younger generations naturally rebel as they get older and realize how fucked the whole thing is... but I know that's definitely an outlook.

The sad thing is, people misunderstand adolescent rebellion: It's almost never the establishment, or even "capitalism" they're rebelling against. It's their parents. It's always their parents, anything else is just a scapegoat for their bad relationship with their parents. Which is why the actual establishment, actual capitalists, don't consider these spoiled children a genuine threat, but as useful idiots.

It's the same reason why western commies bend over backwards to take the girldick up their poop chute, even though there's nothing remotely communist about a decadent lifestyle that involves giving exorbitant amounts of money to the quacks at big pharma.

If their parents oppose transgenderism, said parents better hope they've cultivated a good relationship with their kid, because if not, their kid will rebel by pushing boundaries.

If the parents support transgenderism.....well, it would be to say that their kids would oppose transgenderism, even if it were for the sake of being a contrarian, but more often than not, they build off of their parents' foundation, and take it to its logical conclusion, much to the horror of said parents who realized too late that they've enabled their idiot children. By trooning out at earlier and earlier ages, or identifying as more and more nonsensical gender/sexuality identities. It takes a lot of self awareness to not go that route.

 

[Merton J. Dingle]

Hard to really pinpoint it, but I think it may have been viewing the Kiwi Farms long enough to see just how many of these trans identifying people were absolutely horrible people, not just for being butt-ugly sexual predators, but for their extreme lack of honesty and hateful attitudes towards anyone that they deem to have not properly licked the stinkditch. It also sucks that many/most online communities related to some aspect of youth culture are overrun with these fetishists that demand that you buy into their asinine fantasy.

 

[Rainbow Child]

It's a mathematical impossibility.

You take the percentage of the population who is homosexual.
You take the percentage of the population who is transsexual.
You multiply those two numbers together.
And that ought to be the number of homosexual transsexuals.
But it's not. They're all transbians and gaydens now.

I blame "gay marriage".

Spoiler: Medico-Historical Sperging Here

Transsexuals have been a thing since the Weimar Republic (e.g. Magnus Hirschfeld). The books that the Nazis were burning were the tranny books. Then came along Harry Benjamin. For an hundred years, trannies were quietly transitioning into the opposite sex. They were afforded all the rights and privileges of the opposite sex, because this was a medical issue, not a "queering" issue. They could even marry.

That whole time, there were always two groups of trannies. Those whose mental illness stemmed from their homosexuality, and those whose mental illness stemmed from their transvestism. In both cases, they were willing to adopt the other deviant behaviour in order to approximate a normal life.

Then homosexuality was normalised and "gay marriage" became a thing. Suddenly, the homosexual-origin would-be-trannies stopped presenting for treatment. They could just be "gay". At the same time, crossdressing-origin trannies were still presenting, plus they didn't have to adopt the other deviant behaviour in order to approximate a normal life. Because normal life had been "queered".

Before "gay marriage", fetishistic transvestites were gatekept out of the social transition, because they were unwilling to pay the very steep price of "doing gay shit" in order to act out their crossdressing impulses in public. Instead, they stayed in their wives' closets, and the world was at peace.

After "gay marriage", fetishistic transvestites were not even allowed to be gatekept out because that would be "discrimination on the basis of sexual [dis]orientation" and they all began to come out of the closet to become the UwU lesbians of their perverted dreams. Heck, doctors didn't even know that auto-andro-philia was a thing until after "gay marriage" became a thing and all the gaydens started presenting to fulfil their UwU softboy perverted dreams.

 

[Pizza Time]

And in an attempt not to completely doompill, a fun new way to trigger trannies: I was thinking about how fragile FTMs were and I think it would be really funny to meet one and say, "Wow, you would have made a pretty girl!" Either you trigger a spergout or they realize they're on a doomed path. Win-win.

As funny as a spergout from this would be, it's definitely not the way to try and make them second guess their poor life choices. Most FtMs troon out because they hate femininity and girliness (either hard core tomboys or victims of sexual abuse), so saying it suits them would really only further their rebellion against womanhood.

 

[Cannibal Machine]

As funny as a spergout from this would be, it's definitely not the way to try and make them second guess their poor life choices. Most FtMs troon out because they hate femininity and girliness (either hard core tomboys or victims of sexual abuse), so saying it suits them would really only further their rebellion against womanhood.

True. I might have been too heavily influenced by the ones who are clearly fujoshis in denial trying to escape their very obvious heterosexuality.

Though I jest, I genuinely think there's nothing anyone outside themselves could do or say to make them snap out of it. Especially the ftms. They cope the hardest.

 

[Coom Cruiser]

I had someone in my life who, if they continued making Youtube content, could've become a lolcow herself. Huge narcissist. 350lbs, minimum. Everyone around her had to be careful of how they phrased things, lest you should accidentally FAT SHAME.

When everyone in our circle cut ties someone cut a fat joke about her and it opened the floodgates for us to fat shame to hell and back. It was glorious. But then it had a domino effect; because I suddenly felt comfortable fat shaming again I felt a mental barrier break and I realised I was free to look at EVERYTHING critically.

A few choice encounters IRL with troons later and I realised while there are, I guess, "sincere" trans people who I sympathise with it seemed like at least 90% of them were either autistic as fuck, mentally ill, degenerates or any combination of the aforementioned three. I genuinely feel like whatever the trans movement may have been, it's been co-opted by lunatics who want to distort the world around them like some Chaos god rather than facing reality in the mirror.

Which lead me to finally making an account on the farms and discovering how bad things really are.

 

[TheLastFart]

I hardly noticed Trannies for the longest time. Every now and then i saw one... and it never was eventful. Then what got my interest in the topic was Jim Sterling's decision to put in some mentions of J.K. Rowling. I didn't bat an eye at first but he kept it up so i looked into it and around the same time Super Straight made the rounds, which i think put the nail in the coffin for me that something was very off.

I was under the impression that sexualities are not questioned anymore. And that such notions would be called out for how terrible they are... but oh boy was i wrong. I watched the original Super Straight video and was like "Why is that even necessary to say... surely no one would coerce someone else to go against their sexuality so why even make this video? No trans person would be so cruel to demand someone else to go against their sexuality... surely". I was convinced of that until i saw the responses to this video and how people seem to completely ignore that for a relationship of any kind both people have to happy and have to consent.

Fell down a rabbit hole from there on... so much hatred, so much one sided bullshit. Reddit being one of the first website i used that would crumble and give into this Ideology so willingly and many others followed. And what astounded me more is how much ACTUAL hatred and violence was just accepted from the "good" side. How much they pretend its ok, because trans people are supposedly dying like flies out there so its justified somehow to be an absolute piece of shit person as long as you claim to be something you are not.

 

[trauma care]

I was pro lgbt but it took me being sexually assaulted at 14 and having pictures taken of my body sent to other troons in order for me to hit peak trans. When I spoke up about it, I got harassed endlessly and was made fun of for it. I ended up moving twice because it kept happening. If you have kids, please don't let them online unsupervised. Also when I was "experimenting" in late high school/college (was coping with the assault and other shit tbh) , troons were also harassing and threatening me. Please watch what your kids are doing online and don't let them visit total stranger's houses. Bad things can and will happen. Troons prey on women and children because they see them as weaker and easier targets. It's a vicious cycle of sexual abuse and I'm sick of pretending that it's just calling someone by preferred pronouns or letting people use the toilet. It's gaslighting at it's most intense.