Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

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I'm not sure I can even point to when I peaked. I was raised by a left wing family and still remember how my mother told me that there was a surgery that could apparently turn boys into girls or something like that and I remember just telling her that it was stupid and asked why would anyone want to do that? This happened in about 2009 or so, well before troonism blew up and I was pretty young so I can't remember most of the conversation other than young me found the whole idea dumb.

Fast forward a few years when I just entered high school I purely supported trannies just because I was a cringey euphoric atheist at the time who knew Christians were against them and that was good enough for me to support them even though I knew nothing about them.

Even when I later became a Christian I at first had a "live and let live" attitude towards them and barely thought about them... However as the years went on I slowly began to realize just how evil they are thanks to having a working internet connection.

I remember in year 10 there was a androgynous kid. Obese, rainbow colored dyed hair, a full stereotype. Without powerlevelling too much I am a *actual* autist who cannot read facial expressions and will forget what even a close family member looks like if I don't see them frequently... And yet even a sperg such as myself knew something was off about her. Needless to say "Maverick" (yes that's what she called herself) was a girl larping as a gay boi. On a related note my best friend lost a few friends because he didn't embrace her delusions.

At some points in late high school I even got in trouble because I made fun of gender ideology or outright rejected it... And yet in the few years since graduation I still learnt how to oppose them even more than I did previously. Before I just wanted to see them given meds like you would to someone with schizophrenia, but after all the disgusting things this cult has done in the past few years I think we have reached the point where troons must be either institutionalized or exiled to a desert island for the safety of society as a whole, because they sure as hell won't agree to get the help they desperately need but don't deserve.
 
My peak was when I was 12-13 and somehow I got my hands on article talking about trannies as mentaly ill invidiuals. And back then I had sympathy for them.
After that for long time my only exposure to them and gays was as part of jokes. Look this guy is faggot . This man dresses as woman lmao.

My ignorance lasted until late 2015 when I started to use English language internet and what I have seen was society where even goverments sucked girldick. And saying something like there is difference between man and woman was thought crime. All sympathy I once had was gone in less than week.
 
I'm old enough to remember the AIDs crisis and how people were dying all the goddamn time and gays really struggled for acceptance at a time when the average Joe didn't really understand HIV/AIDs and were afraid to even be around gay people.
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This brought me to Peak Gay during COVID. Not TFD, but a lot more skeptical than I had been previously. Rampant promiscuity, narcissism, hypocrisy, and self-destructive behaviors in that community. I'd seen it before with coworkers and friends but politely ignored it.

Sentiment shifted from, "it's sad the T backlash will affects gay too" to, "gay men have way too much power in media; also we must learn why so many are molested or molesters."
 
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This brought me to Peak Gay during COVID. Not TFD, but a lot more skeptical than I had been previously. Rampant promiscuity, narcissism, hypocrisy, and self-destructive behaviors in that community. I'd seen it before with coworkers and friends but politely ignored it.
As a somewhat health-conscious gay man, I was amazed by how others of my ilk were going around having NSA fun with strangers at the height of the pandemic.
 
As a somewhat health-conscious gay man, I was amazed by how others of my ilk were going around having NSA fun with strangers at the height of the pandemic.
Also as a somewhat health conscious furfag, I was also amazed that entire bathhouses were operating in a clandestine way at the peak of the pandemic.

This is maybe a peak-gay thing but at least the homos just wanted and generally want to their own devices.
 
There are probably still gay people who wanted that... but drowned out by the noises their more hedonistic fellows make. Stuff like this is what really frustrates me about the LGBT movement.
Don't lump Lesbians in with the hedonists.

I'm sure there are a few degenerates out there, but it's probably per capita lower than the number of straight degenerates.
 
At the moment, it seems like every day is a new peak.

In the last week or so.....

We've had a tranny mass shooter, where some activists and media outlets tried to spin it as "if you continue to oppress trannies, this is what will happen!".

There was going to be an event called "Trans Day of Vengeance", where radicalised troons would have taken to the streets to do fuck knows what, but whatever they were gonna do, I'm sure it wouldn't have ended well.

We've seen numerous videos of mentally ill men in dresses punching people at women's/lesbian rights events, including a woman in her 70s, while the police stood idly by, or literally walked off in a group, leaving women surrounded by screaming incel nutjobs. Meanwhile, activists and certain media figures try to spin the violent troons as the victims, and the women as hateful Nazis who deserved it.

A troon won the Australian Women's Open golf tournament.

Parents in Australia who complained about MTF troons playing football against their daughters, in some cases causing injuries to the girls, were told that they need to be re-educated and were offered "LGBTQI+ training".

A man who has spent a year putting on an offensive, ridiculous parody of living as a girl is earning large sums in sponsorship fees from various companies, even getting his face on cans of Bud Light beer.

Shit just keeps on getting dumber and crazier.
 
Nooooooo. :pickle: Trust me, lesbians get up to their own weird shit. They're just better at keeping it to themselves.
You're conceding my point.

Absolute freakish degeneracy that happens between consenting adults behind closed doors and which is never spoken of to outsiders by either party...

Versus absolute freakish degeneracy on display in front of the whole world like virtually all of the cows in certain forums.

Someone else would know better than I do: How many gay versus lesbian cows are there at The Farms? Let's define "gay" as person born male who likes fucking other men and "lesbian" as person born female who likes fucking other women.

My sense is that the Kevin Gibes Inflated Universe alone outnumbers all the lesbians on here, not just in terms of the number of men involved, but the oversharing. Christ, the oversharing!

QED: No lesbian has ever sucked dicks for cock.
 
I'm being peaked by my favorite TV show.

I've been a hardcore Doctor Who fan for almost 20 years. Sure, the faggotry was always there, after all there were a good chunk of gay showrunners, during the show's history. However, that was never a detriment. The stories were top notch and the gay characters were pretty good.

Over the years, a lot of troons started to gravitate towards the show, because I think that the idea of the main character possibly changing gender intrigued them. After eventually The Doctor became a woman, the tranny fandom exploded in size (coincidentally, the point where everything went to shit), and now we're at the point, that they are getting relentlessly pandered to.

Gay Doctor, Tranny Companion, Drag Queens being major characters, SJW themes, woke stories, and fans so annoying, I want to actively break their teeth with a 12-6 elbow.

Russell T Davies is a decent writer, much better than the absolute useless pile of shit that was Chris Chibnall, and I know that the quality of show will most probably improve, but I'm just tired of this tranny shit, man...

I just want to see a middle aged man and a hot girl traveling around the universe and saving people.
 
As soon I removed myself from troon circles and accepted myself as my birth sex, my formerly debilitating body dysphoria became totally irrelevant.
Wording it this way isn't quite the same as saying "my dysphoria completely disappeared." Do you mean you still feel dysphoria, it's just that you easily ignore it because you know that indulging in it is the path of madness?

Do you think any trans people are "legitimate," in the sense that they didn't need to be groomed by anyone, but might have a weird switch flipped in their brain from birth that causes dysphoria?

(If so this still wouldn't mean the solution is the current one of granting them their every whim, ideally we could do what we've done for hundreds of years and perform actual fucking science to look for a better solution instead of declaring we've figured it out.)
 
I mean I never thought that trannies were actually anything but their birth gender, and I thought they were simply suffering from mental illness that society seemed to enable instead of cure, but despite that I was definitely “peaked” when I started reading here and learned about things like AGP, then things clicked and I was like “oh, it’s a fetish, that makes so much sense”.

it’s something that even a lot of right-wing people didn’t really catch on to, instead making tired attack helicopter memes.
 
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Wording it this way isn't quite the same as saying "my dysphoria completely disappeared." Do you mean you still feel dysphoria, it's just that you easily ignore it because you know that indulging in it is the path of madness?
Here's a fun thing: most people suffer from some level of dysmorphia. It's usually small and not diagnoseable as a "disorder", but if you've ever looked in the mirror and thought that your nose is too big, or your hairline is receding, or that you wish you could get rid of those eye bags... that's the same basic emotion that, in rare cases, short-circuits into full-blown body dysmorphia. That also applies to gender dysphoria. Any moment you realize you're doing something gender nonconforming (humming a sappy pop song as a man, for example), that's what you get. Everybody has some level of that shit going on.

You can choose to ignore it and keep doing whatever you're doing, or change your behavior to avoid that emotion in the future, like 99% of the population... or you can autistically hyperfocus on it like troons do and come to the conclusion that just because you once felt envious of girls when you were a kid, that clearly you must be a woman now.
 
Wording it this way isn't quite the same as saying "my dysphoria completely disappeared." Do you mean you still feel dysphoria, it's just that you easily ignore it because you know that indulging in it is the path of madness?

Corn Flakes put it well up above. Gender dysphoria is at its core a form of body dysmorphia, so naturally obsessing over it only makes it worse. It's the same feeling that drives people to spend insane amounts on plastic surgery. You might dislike certain aspects of yourself, but it's a lot healthier to accept that some things can't be changed and get on with your life.

Do you think any trans people are "legitimate," in the sense that they didn't need to be groomed by anyone, but might have a weird switch flipped in their brain from birth that causes dysphoria?

Troons love to peddle this sexist myth of male and female brains which doesn't seem to be based on any solid evidence. I know the brain is a complex organ but I feel like if there was such a massive difference between the two we'd know by now, especially with the amount of research done on trans people. Would love to be proved wrong on this one.
 
Corn Flakes put it well up above. Gender dysphoria is at its core a form of body dysmorphia, so naturally obsessing over it only makes it worse. It's the same feeling that drives people to spend insane amounts on plastic surgery. You might dislike certain aspects of yourself, but it's a lot healthier to accept that some things can't be changed and get on with your life.



Troons love to peddle this sexist myth of male and female brains which doesn't seem to be based on any solid evidence. I know the brain is a complex organ but I feel like if there was such a massive difference between the two we'd know by now, especially with the amount of research done on trans people. Would love to be proved wrong on this one.
Even trannies don’t want tranny brain to exist.
If it did then we could simply scan anyone claiming to be a tranny and if they didn’t have a tranny brain they would get declined official trannydom.
That wouldn’t work for the “I am whatever I say I am” crowd.
 
Even trannies don’t want tranny brain to exist.
If it did then we could simply scan anyone claiming to be a tranny and if they didn’t have a tranny brain they would get declined official trannydom.
That wouldn’t work for the “I am whatever I say I am” crowd.

You're kinda right but it varies from troon to troon. The ones who believe in the existence of true and false trannies (as runch suggested) actually do subscribe to the theory of sexually dimorphic brains - check /lgbt/ for instance where the terms "malebrained" and "fembrained" are constantly thrown around. (Don't actually check /lgbt/ if you value your sanity.)
 
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