Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

That’s the hilarious thing, we don’t have to see eye to eye on politics but we absolutely know one of the roots of the issue. Social media may try to push us apart but in the end, many of us have the same struggles, and we can agree on this: fuck troons and their ilk.

It doesn't matter where you are on the political spectrum: transgender ideology is bullshit, and it's childishly easy to come up with reasons why no matter what angle you approach it.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

I'm just going to point out that radical feminists are against pornography. The fucking wikipedia article on radical feminism spells out one reason:

German radical feminist Alice Schwarzer is one proponent of the view that pornography offers a distorted sense of men and women's bodies, as well as the actual sexual act, often showing performers with synthetic implants or exaggerated expressions of pleasure, engaging in fetishes that are presented as popular and normal.

And I'm just going to point out that coomers only exist en mass on feminist countries. The modern porn industry didn't sprout from "patriarchal" countries, it sprouted from western feminist ones. Its also only western feminist ones that actively try to promote, legalize and destigmatize prostitution. Really weird how all those "Patriarchal" things don't seem to happen on any actually patriarchal countries.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

It is possible to challenge this by bringing up all kinds of what-if's and special cases. What if we trans infants straight from the womb, for example?

I actually have the answer to this one, or at least as close as we'll ever get. David Reimer, patient zero of the trans phenomenon (through no fault of his own) was a biological male raised as a girl nearly from birth. He was already showing male pattern aggression and dominance by the age of FOUR.

This is one thing I actually agree with trannies on: Children are aware of their male-ness or female-ness from a very young age, even if they can't quite articulate it. But 99.9999999% of the time it's going to match biology, and if it doesn't, something has gone drastically wrong.

 

[Grift Garrison]

It was definitely due to the farms, but it wasn't like I was Pro Trans to begin with. I didn't realize there were enough of them to matter. I was more perplexed why people gave a shit to even discuss them. Then I joined the farms and realized that its because the extreme minority of these disgusting freaks had infiltrated tech to the point they could push their agenda at the expense of real discussion.

Outside of the obvious grooming, infringing on women's rights, and jack hammering holes into their taint and calling it a vagina; the worst part of tranny culture is that it perpetuates that things can just be a certain way if you want them to be. That ridiculous delusion having to be accommodated by (relatively) normal people puts me past the point of no return on hating these fucks.

 

[Scream Tail]

Trannies were the butt of jokes when I was growing up so it's not like I ever respected them or their plights. Always thought they were ridiculous. Got pretty bothered when I noticed their sudden victim status and population explosion half a decade ago.

Though the actual first 'peaking' experience was about 5 years ago when my friend lost her 7yo son really suddenly. Her brother-in-law had already trooned out and through well-meaning but retarded family, he pushed his way into my friend's family again and used their grief for attention. The Troon hadn't seen this nephew since he was a toddler because my friend cut him off for being creepy towards her daughter.

He dressed like a stripper to the funeral. Fish nets, badly applied whore makeup etc. My friend didn't even want to invite him but her husband's parents did and she didn't know until he rocked up.

My friend did cut him off again but it took a long time. Grief and family pressure are terrible things. Her daughter is in her late teens now, fucking hates the LGBTQBbq community and he is about 50% of the reason.

I basically watched this all happen in real time. He was the first IRL tranny I'd ever met and I learned relatively quickly that most of them are fucking terrible people and you're better off dropping them from your life.

 

[Colonel Gaddafi]

And I'm just going to point out that coomers only exist en mass on feminist countries

Yeah, as a Libyan I’m going to call you on your bullshit here. Wealthy Arab nations are amongst some of the most pornsick, despite the hostile climate towards both porn and women.

 

[Atreus]

I just don't even know where to begin. Another poster here for sure summed it up better as a mountain range with multiple highs and lows you know? Growing up in the city it was honestly pretty normalized for me as people I knew, mainly women, were eventually trooning out. Eventually though guys I knew online and offline were becoming transgender at a weird rate. I thought nothing of it too much at first until I eventually started to realize how many people I knew were affected by it. 3 FtMs I knew were sexually assaulted and one, who was at one point a regular in my friend circle became an actual whore as a FtM and started an OnlyFans scarily enough. They hooked up with multiple people and tries to hook up with me a few times, but I laughed it off as I didn't feel that way about them.

The guys I knew irl were just fucking creeps. One in particular would post about what restroom stall he was in and "that he would fuck anyone willing he didn't care if it was a guy or a girl". Funny enough one time in Sophomore year in the locker room he tried to convince our Football locker room that fucking Trans women wasn't gay and when they found out Trans men had pussy they all agreed fucking Trans men was less gay as they had real pussies. But that's a little off track. Needless to say he was a horny autistic bastard who used to chase this one girl in our high school and after they broke up after a short relationship he got super depressive and eventually trooned out in an attempt for validation and affection. Last I heard their parents didn't take them seriously.

Now this is not my peak trans yet, but what else can I say without making a long post. In everyday life if you work retail you'll see the occasional Trans man or sometimes even Trans women (by the way I have never met a trans woman who passed in real life. I've only seen the horrifying ones.)

Online most men who you could class as incels or teenage boys who faced rejection and other sorts of stuff who are easily malleable to memes and other gaslighting have fallen for it to. What sucks is that once they troon out most can never take a joke without making a fucking point about it. One who I thought was a good friend for awhile even then tried to convince me I was Trans, than gay, than at least bicurious. I later found out that he was trying to "crack my egg?"

I swear my generation is fucking horrible and outside of the few people I still talk to I have hope that a couple years from now people will finally see things straight.

 

[MetalParakeet]

When icdidnt know any, I was a defender. I did the whole "science proves it!" bit and brought up cultures that had other ideas about gender. I know, embarrassing.

But as more and more people that I knew started transitioning, I just observed behaviour. It was never "I feel more comfortable as a woman. Please call me sara" and that's it, done. It was always depression or horny posting, toxic reinforcement of "gender roles," and basically just cartoonery.

No one got happier. In fact, it seemed that they got worse. Sure, they were probably miserable before and hid it but now they're screaming about their mental health issues in every conversation, in between posting pics of their assholes on the internet and retweeting loli

 

[Lost in Place]

cartoonery

Cartroonery. You were so close.

, toxic reinforcement of "gender roles,"

This is the one that annoys me the most... Aside from them actively pushing their shit on children. Back in like the 90's we were moving nicely down the anyone can do anything, if their capable of it, path. Boys knitting? Have at it. Girls doing car things? You go girl. But now? Nooo clearly just doesn't know they're trans! And for what? Their vainglorious self destruction?

 

[Pizza Time]

And I'm just going to point out that coomers only exist en mass on feminist countries. The modern porn industry didn't sprout from "patriarchal" countries, it sprouted from western feminist ones. Its also only western feminist ones that actively try to promote, legalize and destigmatize prostitution. Really weird how all those "Patriarchal" things don't seem to happen on any actually patriarchal countries.

If coomers only exist in feminist countries, how do you explain India?

 

[MetalParakeet]

Cartroonery. You were so close.


This is the one that annoys me the most... Aside from them actively pushing their shit on children. Back in like the 90's we were moving nicely down the anyone can do anything, if their capable of it, path. Boys knitting? Have at it. Girls doing car things? You go girl. But now? Nooo clearly just doesn't know they're trans! And for what? Their vainglorious self destruction?

"Since I've started estrogen, I've noticed I cry a lot! Just like a woman, and not because I'm creating a synthetic firestorm within my body. And I get period cramps like a real woman, and it's not just my intestines crying for help! I also suddenly want to SEW and out of nowhere, I like the smell of candles! Like a woman!"

 

[Troony Kong]

If coomers only exist in feminist countries, how do you explain India?

Coomers have always existed. Being easily exploited by cooming material or cooming promises is a general weakness of human males. But modern porn has taken cooming to possibilities never even imagined before. Because of the internet, porn is now practically freely available everywhere on the globe by just having a phone. Muslim countries and India already had their own incel problems, the free (or easy enough) availability of porn has only made them worse. And of course there are plenty of 'trad' people in the West that are only 'trad' performatively, and enjoy porn and even announce it in their media profiles. That's how we get 'trad' catboys and traps. But porn as an industry absolutely started as a liberal, progressive and 'emancipating' industry. If Second wave feminism, our beloved useful idiot, was the right hand of (engineered) social change, Hefner was the left and together they created our Brave New World.

 

[Polexia Aphrodisia]

Also, a sub about women getting properly fitted bras was completely overrun by ugly ass men just posting pics of themselves because they’re gross fetishists.

That's really sad. That was a very valuable place for women who'd been wearing uncomfortable and badly fitting bras their whole lives. God fucking forbid that men don't get to talk about their bitch-tits in the same space as women talking about body parts which cause them genuine discomfort and occasionally require surgical intervention.

I went to buy some cheap stockings on Amazon and the very first review was some degenerate talking about how he loves how sexy and fun they are and how they're perfect for men who cross-dress or trannies. Keep that shit to your fucking self.

 

[Point and Laugh]

And I'm just going to point out that coomers only exist en mass on feminist countries. The modern porn industry didn't sprout from "patriarchal" countries, it sprouted from western feminist ones. Its also only western feminist ones that actively try to promote, legalize and destigmatize prostitution. Really weird how all those "Patriarchal" things don't seem to happen on any actually patriarchal countries.

Motherfucker have you ever heard of Iran? Which happens to have one of the highest numbers of SRS in the world?

Blaming porn and the sex trade industry on women is fucking hysterical seeing as how it’s owned and operated by men.

The incel to troon pipeline is real my friend, turn back before it’s too late for you.

 

[Colonel Gaddafi]

But porn as an industry absolutely started as a liberal, progressive and 'emancipating' industry. If Second wave feminism, our beloved useful idiot, was the right hand of (engineered) social change, Hefner was the left and together they created our Brave New World.

Yes and no. Porn in the west was initially funded by the mob, the so called ‘Golden Age’ couldn’t have cared less about women’s rights and regularly chewed them up and spat them out (Linda Lovelace and Bambi Woods, to name a few). The overwhelming majority of second wave feminists where in agreement with the conservatives that porn wasn’t exactly good for women, though there were some who disagreed (look up the Feminist Sex Wars). But whatever the fems or liberals thought of the topic, pornographers weren’t going about it because of progressivism, it was literally about money and control. Though it can certainly be argued that the sexual revolution (and feminist support of it), led to a more permissive society, which in turn led to folks like Goldstein. The worst of which was Denmark with Color Climax, that’s a pretty rough rabbit hole.

 

[Troony Kong]

Yes and no. Porn in the west was initially funded by the mob, the so called ‘Golden Age’ couldn’t have cared less about women’s rights and regularly chewed them up and spat them out (Linda Lovelace and Bambi Woods, to name a few). The overwhelming majority of second wave feminists where in agreement with the conservatives that porn wasn’t exactly good for women, though there were some who disagreed (look up the Feminist Sex Wars). But whatever the fems or liberals thought of the topic, pornographers weren’t going about it because of progressivism, it was literally about money and control. Though it can certainly be argued that the sexual revolution (and feminist support of it), led to a more permissive society, which in turn led to folks like Goldstein. The worst of which was Denmark with Color Climax, that’s a pretty rough rabbit hole.

Yes most second wave feminists were and are against porn (the others that were not then started the third), but that didn't matter. Second wave feminism justified other aspects of the Sexual Revolution that weren't strictly tied to the bedroom, and it served that purpose well (little known fact, second wave leader Kate Millet lauded Money's Bruce/Brenda experiment). Hefner and similar served for PR purposes to show that porn could be a distiguished, leisurely and cultured past-time for the gentlemen who enjoyed life. Of course that was false from the beginning, but for someone on the outside it could serve as moral justification and ease them into the drug; when they would only coom to the hardcore stuff, they wouldn't care anymore.

So, to sum it up: feminism for women and porn for men.

 

[fake farts]

Though it can certainly be argued that the sexual revolution (and feminist support of it), led to a more permissive society, which in turn led to folks like Goldstein. The worst of which was Denmark with Color Climax, that’s a pretty rough rabbit hole.

There are definitely some modern rad fems who agree with this. The hindsight about the sexual revolution being 20/20 and all, that for the good it did, it also did bad in nearly equal measure.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

Motherfucker have you ever heard of Iran? Which happens to have one of the highest numbers of SRS in the world?

This is literally a troon talking point, srs in iran isn't voluntary and its not fetish or coomer driven, its punishment for being gay with the dilema being execution or srs.

 

[doodoocaca]

I just got Threepeaked when CenturyLink apparently hired troons to go with the H1Bs that have been running that company into the ground. That, and increasingly realizing their effects of queering and sexualizing society top to bottom in the worst ways imaginable.

Everyone has to be some kind of 'gay', or they're bad. So, you have people who are in heterosexual relationships calling themselves "Demi". Or, depressed, so they're an "ACE". If you're a total loser, you troon out to just climb the victim ladder!

Their sexualization of everything, and everyone, even stretching into tender aged children, is where I lose my composure. Everything is about fucking or being fuckable, period, end of story, to a troon. Every aspect of their fantastical ideal body and identity revolves around the objects of their desire and spending every waking moment being fucked or desiring it. Transition is about fuckability, their euphoria or dysphoria is about imagining themselves as fuckable or realizing they aren't and never will be, and their expressions of power revolve around sex and especially rape.

Coom brained is accurate but incomplete. Erotic Target Identity Inversion does a great job of explaining what's going on with these freaks and how they're hiding from themselves by trying to become something they can't have. Because society has made it work, they're continuing to go down that route, which is why they groom children. More people made to be like them, more like what they think to be their source of power, and of course something they want to fuck, except potentially in their reach because troons can get other troons.

Then to top it all off, if they have power over someone else, or see them as beneath them, they like to sexually humiliate them, openly on social media. We now know they privately threaten and harass people with impunity at odd hours, too.

Fucking disgusting. Society's rejects literally raping it in revenge.

 

[Arianne Chan]

I honestly think it’s best that, if you can’t have an honest discussion with your friends about your beliefs, then it’s best to slowly break ties with these people.

Maybe I'll try, I feel sad about it because he's a very good friend I've known for years, but I can't do anything for him anymore...