Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[teriyakiburns]

She’s unfortunately convinced that this experience was an anomaly and not the norm. But she’s learning.

This is similar to a close friend of mine. She's had a couple of negative troon encounters (online, so the impact is less), but has written the experiences off as outliers ,or just "they're not really transgender". I've avoided throwing links to failed surgeries at her, because she really wouldn't respond well to that. Instead, I've been trying to subtly enlighten her about the effects the wrong hormones have on a male or female body. I think it's sinking in at some level, because she'll occasionally bring the topic up herself now, but she's not come around yet.

We've all likely had that one time when we had to sit in a group with someone who just didn't fit in. It's bad enough when they're just the wrong personality mix. It's hard to imagine how much worse it must be when they're so blatantly lying and the entire group structure bends over backwards to enable their shit.

 

[Slur Generator]

She’s unfortunately convinced that this experience was an anomaly and not the norm. But she’s learning.

This is similar to a close friend of mine. She's had a couple of negative troon encounters (online, so the impact is less), but has written the experiences off as outliers ,or just "they're not really transgender".

Its hard for them to admit because they think that only dumb white trash have anything against trans and that they would be bad people if they did. Social media and MSM are a disease.

 

[Fishy Fish Fish]

(This is a disorganized mess of ramblings, like all my posts)
I was first exposed to transgenderism as a young teen. To put it out there, the first thing I had ever heard of these people was from my parents. "Men think they can become women, and women think they can become men, lol retards." I think even without them openly disliking transsexuals, I would have peaked anyway. The very first I had exposure to online were FtMs probably about my age. I remember specifically seeing a youtube video, narrated with an obvious female voice, talking about how she was made fun of in school for liking sports. This girl immediately decided to be transgender. My reaction was "So these are just tomboys? That's dumb, tomboys are cool." The FtMs I knew personally were thanks to the yansim community (I deserve any autism ratings). They were pretentious at best, and annoying at worst. Both of the notable ones I'm thinking of were "non-binary" before deciding to be boys. Their interests were more stereotypically feminine than mine, and both had huge fetishes for yaoi, so there you go. At one point, I read a short story by an FtM. I noted that it had that overdramatic and whiny writing style that women tend towards. The more notable parts of it were her mentioning how she liked being around boys more than girls, and hated stuff like wearing bras and having a period. Again, I thought, "This is literally a tomboy, and that's pretty normal stuff". Also the name she picked was Tommy. Fucking Tommy. Not Thomas, some oldass 50s heartbreaker faggot Tommy. I could never understand this stuff, and I believe that's for the best. I've always been pretty self-confident about my personality and looks, and a common thread that linked FtMs and NBs to me were that they just had personalities that weren't hyperfeminine. During that time of my life, I was also pretty openly against stuff like the beauty industry, and stereotypes, and therefore didn't see this kind of stuff as any different. Diversity of personalities is part of what makes life interesting, and trying to mold people into being something they're not has always seemed cruel to me. Anywho, I continued just generally disliking them throughout the years, but I think COVID ended up doing something to people, where it turned normies into raging Tumblr activists overnight. Soon everything had to be activism... vaccines, BLM, trannies, etc. Like many people on this thread, I wouldn't say that I necessarily had one peak, more like several that just keep coming. I think my first biggest one was the sheer rage that the superstraight movement induced. Straight men and women, gay men and women, and bi men and women were sick and tired of being told they had to fuck these gross sexless cretins, and they stood up for themselves. I was on r/TumblrInAction at the time, and it was being targeted big-time for shit-talking trannies, as many other subreddits were. r/againsthatesubreddits featured many posts from TiA, fairly innocuous ones, and the trannies in AHS acted so rapey in the comments. "Maybe someday he'll learn that there's more to the vagina than the vulva. Hopefully he doesn't accidentally lose his virginity to a trans girl." (yes, they did fuck up their anatomy terms like that). Not to mention, you had these handmaiden/errand boys who weren't even trans trying to shame people for their god-given sexuality. It was clear that most of them were Zoomers who had no fucking clue what transgender people were actually like, they would often come up with these scenarios where some normal dude met an irresistibly hot woman in a bar, took her home to sex her, and the morning after, she reveals that she's transgender. Any sane person knew that was bullshit, because MtFs don't pass, and they would tell them so. I also remember seeing a lot of stuff online where subhumans would threaten physically harm people who dared question their shit. Anyone remember "There are men with vaginas, women with penises, and transphobes without teeth"? Great look for y'all. I think my most recent, and current peak is the acceptance of trannies being allowed to groom or blatantly talk about wanting to perform sexual acts with children. It was bad enough when LaBelle's shit got OK'd, and it was bad enough when Cuties got OK'd, and now trannies are acting like people's children are theirs to sterilize and traumatize. I almost hate their simps more than I hate them, they're enablers for the severely mentally ill.
I think I deserve MATI ratings, but I feel a lot better being able to talk about it, and I'm very happy that there's pushbacks in certain states as well as European countries. The pendulum is swinging back, stay strong everyone, let's keep it going in the right direction.

 

[Fapcop]

Well, if you don’t like kids getting groomed @Fishy Fish Fish , this should really grind your gears: https://reduxx.info/maine-mothers-i...al-worker-who-secretly-transitioned-children/

TLDR: School “social worker” tries to groom two kids, buys one of them a binder… Parents go “WTF?!” And get CPS called on them.

 

[pistolwhipped]

I peaked several years ago while scrolling through Tinder back when I was dating. Even with my profile set to LESBIAN, nearly every other swipe was a TIM troon. There truly is no escaping these degenerate, perverted incels. They skinwalk their perverted interpretation of womanhood, fetishize and shame lesbians, and then we are told to welcome them into our spaces. Oh and then they try to create retarded new labels like "sapphic." Every time I hear someone describe themself as "sapphic" I know it's a fat incel in a party city wig.

 

[Unexpected Genitals]

Over just the past few years I've gone from laughing at TERFs to thinking they miiiight have a point--at least the ones who aren't just man-haters who believe in pussy witchcraft.

 

[Fapcop]

Over just the past few years I've gone from laughing at TERFs to thinking they miiiight have a point-

TERFs are like the retarded cousins of troons. They both have their roots in Marxism and share the same autistic “Well if you disagree, that’s because you hate X” approach to criticism.

Just like with any other group though: Nazis, communists, Islamophobes, libertarians, you can find a nugget of truth here and there, among all the nonsense.

You hardly need to have studied women studies for half a decade, to realize that men who want to be women are most likely perverts.

-at least the ones who aren't just man-haters who believe in pussy witchcraft.

They’re all man haters though. The only TERFs who aren’t lesbians are the kind of chicks who find legit cucks for husbands.
And they all have this weird near religious relationship to their private parts.

If you ever feel like taking TERFs seriously on anything but troons, remember that they are the crazy chicks who wrote “The Vagina Monologues” or consider it an important piece of theater art.

 

[Something Awful]

One thing that just floated across my brain is that it's a socially acceptable way for a young woman to be angry all the time. Or like a way to externalize some of the anger.

I was just reading the "taking the L" thread and when a normal woman goes to a bar and gets rejected, that's usually going to result in turning anger inwards, but these people... "Every single person at the bar is a hater and a transphobe and fuck all of them."

Blaming others for all your problems is a fundamental precept of troonism.

One of the main catalysts for people trooning out is long-term depression. And at first it's great, you finally feel like you have a clear goal, and you're doing all these things to achieve it: taking your gender pills, doing voice training, planning hair removal procedures and surgeries, scheduling your dilation sessions.

So far so good. Setting attainable goals and a plan to achieve them is something a psychotherapist would tell you to do. Except these goals aren't attainable. No matter what you do, you will never become the opposite sex. For that to become reality, everyone else would have to believe it, and that's never happening. So you blame everyone else for ruining your impossible dream.

And, unlike something like cognitive behavioral therapy, which teaches you to face your issues (at a manageable pace), troonism teaches you to go to la-la land, isolate yourself in a bubble and dismiss everyone outside it as nazi transphobes. It's a gross cult.

 

[Not A Bunny]

If you ever feel like taking TERFs seriously on anything but troons, remember that they are the crazy chicks who wrote “The Vagina Monologues” or consider it an important piece of theater art.

There's a YouTuber called Cat Cattionson who is a detransitioner and has others on her channel.
She was interviewing one, and they both started bemoaning about treatment of women in their respective workplaces. You could hear the sentence structure and tone and buzzwords of "victim feminism" and it's like...do you hear yourselves talking?
These people bought into the same culture that convinced them to transition in the first place, and haven't figured out that feminism is the exact same mentality wrapped up in whatever identity you're choosing to adopt for the most efficient victimhood points.

 

[Fareal]

Blaming others for all your problems is a fundamental precept of troonism.

One of the main catalysts for people trooning out is long-term depression. And at first it's great, you finally feel like you have a clear goal, and you're doing all these things to achieve it: taking your gender pills, doing voice training, planning hair removal procedures and surgeries, scheduling your dilation sessions.

So far so good. Setting attainable goals and a plan to achieve them is something a psychotherapist would tell you to do. Except these goals aren't attainable. No matter what you do, you will never become the opposite sex. For that to become reality, everyone else would have to believe it, and that's never happening. So you blame everyone else for ruining your impossible dream.

And, unlike something like cognitive behavioral therapy, which teaches you to face your issues (at a manageable pace), troonism teaches you to go to la-la land, isolate yourself in a bubble and dismiss everyone outside it as nazi transphobes. It's a gross cult.

A lot of people's first and only experience of therapy is CBT. (In the UK it's pretty much all you can access via primary care.)

It doesn't work for everyone, and I do wonder if some of the more persistently troubled young folk who wash up at the shore of "gender stuff" think that because CBT didn't work for them, their problems are not amenable to therapy, full stop.

I suspect a significant number of these barely-adults, with a different therapeutic approach, would be able to get their shit manageably together rather than go for the chop chop.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Every time I see "CBT", I instinctively interpret it as "Cock and Ball Torture."

Getting kicked in the nuts a few times would sort a lot of these men out.

 

[Fishy Fish Fish]

TERFs are like the retarded cousins of troons. They both have their roots in Marxism and share the same autistic “Well if you disagree, that’s because you hate X” approach to criticism.

Just like with any other group though: Nazis, communists, Islamophobes, libertarians, you can find a nugget of truth here and there, among all the nonsense.

You hardly need to have studied women studies for half a decade, to realize that men who want to be women are most likely perverts.

They’re all man haters though. The only TERFs who aren’t lesbians are the kind of chicks who find legit cucks for husbands.
And they all have this weird near religious relationship to their private parts.

If you ever feel like taking TERFs seriously on anything but troons, remember that they are the crazy chicks who wrote “The Vagina Monologues” or consider it an important piece of the

I really hate TERFs for pretty much all other reasons besides them hating trannies. Oddly enough, women are always the victims over men in current year, unless the man is wearing a dress, then a normal woman is always the offender, even if she's a literal rape victim.

 

[The Ugly One]

I really hate TERFs for pretty much all other reasons besides them hating trannies. Oddly enough, women are always the victims over men in current year, unless the man is wearing a dress, then a normal woman is always the offender, even if she's a literal rape victim.

Troons are destroying feminist & lesbian spaces because of an ideology TERFs promoted heavily back in the 00s called intersectionality. I can't be assed to read all their stupid literature, but it comes down to your oppressed status being at the intersection of all your identities.

Woman outranks man.
Black outranks white.
Immigrant outranks native.
Illegal alien outranks immigrant.
Gay outranks straight.

And then...

Trans outranks cis.

Intersectionality was mainly supposed to be about shaving the side of your head, dying your hair purple, and hating your dad. But in their greed, they dug too deep, and the feminists awakened an ancient evil. And now, here we are.

 

[doodoocaca]

Does anyone else want a time machine to tell your 18 year old self to go to church and marry young even if you're not really a believer as a result of all this shit?

 

[JaneThough]

Does anyone else want a time machine to tell your 18 year old self to go to church and marry young even if you're not really a believer as a result of all this shit?

Keep your fetishes to yourself

 

[doodoocaca]

Keep your fetishes to yourself

Fetish? Marriage is a very practical thing.

 

[AssignedEva]

Troons are destroying feminist & lesbian spaces because of an ideology TERFs promoted heavily back in the 00s called intersectionality. I can't be assed to read all their stupid literature, but it comes down to your oppressed status being at the intersection of all your identities.

Woman outranks man.
Black outranks white.
Immigrant outranks native.
Illegal alien outranks immigrant.
Gay outranks straight.

And then...

Trans outranks cis.

Intersectionality was mainly supposed to be about shaving the side of your head, dying your hair purple, and hating your dad. But in their greed, they dug too deep, and the feminists awakened an ancient evil. And now, here we are.

Well that, and the idea that multiple oppressions result in compounding interest e.g. a black woman has it worse than a black man or a white woman because she doesn't just experience racism or misogyny but also misogynoir which is both of them combined into something worse. Therefore if you have three marginalised identities you don't have three oppression points, you have 3^3^3 oppression points (and obvi some identities are more oppressed than others and therefore get more points multipliers) and thus

 

[Fishy Fish Fish]

Well that, and the idea that multiple oppressions result in compounding interest e.g. a black woman has it worse than a black man or a white woman because she doesn't just experience racism or misogyny but also misogynoir which is both of them combined into something worse. Therefore if you have three marginalised identities you don't have three oppression points, you have 3^3^3 oppression points (and obvi some identities are more oppressed than others and therefore get more points multipliers) and thus
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When the group is so marginalized that it barely exists.

 

[doodoocaca]

So what even is the orthonormal basis of an oppression matrix?

I suppose we can have orthogonal vectors of faggotry, niggertry, troonery, and retardation:

[1 0 0 0]
[0 1 0 0]
[0 0 1 0]
[0 0 0 1]

Wait, I can do better

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[Fapcop]

Troons are destroying feminist & lesbian spaces because of an ideology TERFs promoted heavily back in the 00s called intersectionality. I can't be assed to read all their stupid literature, but it comes down to your oppressed status being at the intersection of all your identities.

Woman outranks man.
Black outranks white.
Immigrant outranks native.
Illegal alien outranks immigrant.
Gay outranks straight.

And then...

Trans outranks cis.

Intersectionality was mainly supposed to be about shaving the side of your head, dying your hair purple, and hating your dad. But in their greed, they dug too deep, and the feminists awakened an ancient evil. And now, here we are.

When Intersectionality came out, it was a useful reminder to smug, upper middle class, white feminists that maaaaybe some 18 year old getting passed around as a bag of candy in the ghetto, or Arab women not being able to leave the house without permission, we’re bigger issues than Terfy McLawyersen not being able to find childcare 24-7, or construction workers DARING to look at her ass.

Since then, it has degenerated into the most retarded kind of oppression Olympics, and mainly serves to keep facts and sanity in check through MUH LIVED EXPERIENCE!