Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[Windows XP Home Edition]

NGL, it warms my heart seeing both newly peaked and veteran radfems see how nasty and hypocritical the modern left has become as a whole.

 

[FedPostalService]

NGL, it warms my heart seeing both newly peaked and veteran radfems see how nasty and hypocritical the modern left has become as a whole.

Yet they still stay like an abused wife who thinks she can change her husband.

 

[Somerandoontheweb]

Being religious, I was always fairly anti-LGBT. However, I felt compassion towards trans people as I thought only deep suffering could lead them to mutilate their bodies in such a way. It didn't help that I didn't fit in with other girls, having the tism and all.
I think "assigned male" played a huge part in making me lose my sympathy. The fact that this stuff was pushed on confused children was revolting. In became apparent that the trans movement was only enforcing gender roles instead of breaking them. I realized that "gender dysphoria" wasn't innate but could be forced upon confused children by predatory adults.
Then, there's the concept of transmisoginy. I'll let this exchange between Sophie labelle and some tif speak for itself.
The nail of the coffin was browsing kiwifarms and learning more about men appropriating misogynistic stereotype about women.
Ironically, seeing the trans movement for what it really was made me far more sympathetic towards gay people. I can't say I'm pro gay, but I developed a far more "live and let live" approach considering most gay people just want to be left alone and have consensual kinky sex. And the most degenerate part of the LGBT community always seems to stem from some kind of gender fuckery, like kid drag queens. The predatory behavior of trans people toward gay people, especially lesbians, made me far more empathic toward their struggles as well.
Trans peaking also radically changed my views on feminism. We now live in a world were misogynistic men are worshipped as martyrs for parodying womanhood and forcing themselves on women. I've never realized how rampant misogyny was before peaking.

 

[LimeRikki]

Ironically, seeing the trans movement for what it really was made me far more sympathetic towards gay people. I can't say I'm pro gay, but I developed a far more "live and let live" approach considering most gay people just want to be left alone and have consensual kinky sex.

This is not a perspective I have ever heard before, thank you for sharing it.

 

[AnOminous]

Ironically, seeing the trans movement for what it really was made me far more sympathetic towards gay people. I can't say I'm pro gay, but I developed a far more "live and let live" approach considering most gay people just want to be left alone and have consensual kinky sex.

Gay people aren't intrinsically deranged. A gay man is a man who is sexually attracted to other men. That's just a fact. That's what he is. It doesn't matter how he got that way, whatever. The existence of a gay person does not require me to do or think anything. My obligation is simply that I have to any other person, don't just throw a brick at their head for no reason.

I don't have to pretend to believe in any delusions to accept their existence. They are, in actual fact, people who are attracted to their own sex. Unless they go out of their way to force that down my throat, or freak out if they make a pass at me and I politely decline, what's the issue?

Troons, by their very existence as troons, at least in this political environment, demand I pretend they are what they are not. They are demanding that I lie, and threatening my social status, employment, and even ability to access banking and basic social functions if I don't lie and pretend they're whatever bullshit they claim to be.

At that point, I'm up in arms. Fuck these troon scum. Over my cold, dead body. Or preferably, yours. You're a MAN, faggot!

 

[Geoffrey of Zealand]

Troons, by their very existence as troons, at least in this political environment, demand I pretend they are what they are not. They are demanding that I lie, and threatening my social status, employment, and even ability to access banking and basic social functions if I don't lie and pretend they're whatever bullshit they claim to be.

I think it's even worse than that. Troonery doesn't just demand that we all play along. It's poisoning an entire generation of art. Sure, artists are notoriously faggy and always have been. The genderspecial cult doesn't merely expect that art not implicitly or explicitly criticize them, though. You have to also allow them to plant their flag, sometimes literally, on anything you produce, at least if you want to not be pilloried like J.K. Rowling. Most people don't have that kind of cushy money already to help them weather the storm. So much material that could be good or just inoffensive is instead born into the world already festering and rotting from a side-wound speared there by the Lange of Troonginus. It's irrevocably fucked, like if every apple on the supermarket shelf came with a federally mandated moldy patch.

(And then there's the whole child mutilation death cult part.)

 

[TruffleSpark]

I really don't like how predatory they are toward homosexuals and how they are trying to redefine "gay" away from meaning same sex attraction. This isn't even a pro gay thing. It's an anti hypocrisy thing. They demand so much from the gay community when they are giving them nothing in exchange. I think that's a big reason for the (factually inaccurate) screeching about how a "trans woman of color" started the Stonewall riots. They have to make it look like they did something for the gays in the past that gay people owe them a debt for. Because they sure as fuck aren't doing anything for gays here in the present day. And if they let gay people see that, they will have no reason to be allied to them.

It's just that if you need to lie in order to get people to accept your ideology maybe it's not a good ideology and you shoud be willing to admit that.

 

[ivoryink]

I might powerlevel a bit in this and it's really long winded lmao, tldr at the bottom.

I peaked in 2020 after I joined some discord of the uber-woke fandom I was currently in. I was a young teenager when this happened, around 14-15. I was never big in the fandom, only having a small circle of friends, and the discord server being decently big meant it already had it's own cliques, so I didn't make that many new friends. Me being someone who has never really used discord and that I've always been and will be only cis and lesbian (which is clearly not minority enough to this type of crowd) also contributed to not meeting that many new people.

But there was a guy, or should I say, xe/xer (I think?) "woman", who reeeally paid attention to me.

He was friends with a couple of the admins, and was the server's event organizer, some mid 20s guy with a gif of an anime girl as his profile picture. He kept talking to me in dms about whatever retarded shit came up to his head: his mood swings and depression, about how much he hated his parents (he still lived with them) and most importantly about his transition and his inappropriate interactions with his pseudo eboy chaser boyfriend who was paying for whatever pill this guy was taking to become a true and honest womyn.

Now something to mention is that while not antisocial, I'm pretty (I don't think this is the right word) introverted. I like having friends and talking to people and have no problem doing so, but I don't like sharing more personal things nor will really care about someone's beliefs, ideals or opinion on me beyond some surface level anxiety. So when this hon started making inappropriate comments about me, oversharing the intimate conversations he had with that chaser of his and harassing me about transing myself, no amount of woke filters and autism that were in my brain could prevent me from getting tired of his shit.

I guess he thought that me being so young, so seemingly lonely and most likely autistic/mentally ill that I would be an easy target to groom like whatever other many victims he had, an "easy egg to crack" if I were to put it in tranny words, but I guess he quickly found out that instead of being an "egg", a better description of me would be "retard with a thick skull". He grew increasingly more aggressive in his attempts at grooming me, and I grew increasingly more anxious about interacting with him. It reached the point where he would monologue in my dms and I would never answer his messages, even if I always read them.

The culmination of this was when one day he sent me a picture of his gross crotch with the lovely caption "I'll say bye bye to this in a few weeks ))))" or something along those lines. This was too much, so I quickly screenshotted what he sent me and other messages that clearly showed his attempts at grooming, blocked him and went directly to the admins to report. I guess he told his admin friends about me blocking him or whatever, because before I was able to even open a ticket I got banned from the server.

This made something inside my brain snap and I got very upset at the realization that instead of protecting a victim, the authorities on the server decided to side with their pedo friend, likely not for the first time. After that, I started getting tons of dms from random people, sending me 500 word essays about how I should 41% myself, get abused, that I was a transphobe and that my parents surely hated me. Many of my friends in the fandom had turned on me after getting banned, but thankfully not everyone, and one of these friends was still on the server.

I got told that shortly after I was banned, the admins made an announcement saying that I had discriminated against the hon, saying that I had called him slurs and made fun of him for finally going to chop his dick off, and was therefore a danger to that wonderful community and sadly had to be put down banned. I guess the hon got scared about me exposing him and too were scared of this whatever other pedo admins there surely were on the server (probably all of them).

So that's exactly what I did. With the help of what was left of my friends I made a doc and posted it on xitter. It garnered some mild attention, but most of it was negative, telling me that I was a bitter vengeful transphobe trying to bring down a stunning womyn. After I was done posting the doc I exited the fandom, maintaining semi regular contact with friends still inside it. It wouldn't be until 2-3 months later that the discord server self-imploded when the hon and a couple other notable members inevitably got caught grooming minors.

After all this shit, I would spend some months busy with school and at around 16 I eventually found my way to kiwifarms, not really because of my hate for trannies, but because I was interested in the lolcow stuff (and still am). I was older and just a little bit more mature, so I had formed a lot of new opinions but I was still unsure about whether my experiences were an isolated case or not, but when I started reading the stories here it was like a weight was taken off my shoulders, the relief was immense and have never looked back.

Tldr: discord mod hon sent me a picture of his crotch when I was 14 after repeated attempts at grooming me, the subsequent admin response I got when I tried to report him to them made me peak.

 

[The First Amendment]

Probs when the gendercult flat I lived in as a straight cis teen girl opened my eyes to these people.

• Nightly mandatory flatmeetings which were just all of us in a circle while I listened to them talk about the 'trauma' society/dysphoria/men/politics did to them. And watch them validate each other. You were only allowed to speak if you held the literal 'talking dildo'. I was often used as a person to 'educate' so they could affirm each other.
  
  
• Near daily changing names and pronouns, and public berration if you dared to get one wrong that just changed.
  
  
• Being told after my stepdad helped me move a fishtank into my room 'I am traumatizing them by bringing a cis man into the house and it is to never happen again'. Upon asking for clarification she reasserted any non alphabet men would never be welcome or allowed in the home. Even if they were my relatives.
  
  
• They killed 4000$ worth of my fish (discus) because they fed them 7 days worth of food all at once while I was away because they decided they didn't like the obligation of helping me with them after I looked after their Lizard for 3 months on my dime.
  
  
• Oh and when I found out the NB flatmate was locking her MTF flatmate in their room while they went clubbing. Found out when I was getting ready for my first date ever and was told 'You can't go because he will never be allowed in the house as a cis man, and my gf is going to kill herself and I need you to watch her. I'd come home but I'm having a great time.' Only to find out the MTF was not suicidal. Was just stressed about being locked in a room because she wanted to clean the two non binary flat mates filth. But apparently thats 'feeding your OCD, which is dangerous'
  
  
  This is just a few of the tales. But their all unhinged. All fags. I have zero sympathy.

 

[Nick Obre]

I peaked in 2020 after I joined some discord of the uber-woke fandom I was currently in. I was a young teenager when this happened, around 14-15

at around 16 I eventually found my way to kiwifarms

Nigger are you 17? Or joined while still 17?

If so, beyond the fact that you shouldn't fucking be here, saying

I was older and just a little bit more mature

Makes you still vulnerable to "you're so mature for your age, tee hee". Be careful out there.

 

[TradingExpectations]

I hit peak trans when Philosophy Tube Transitioned and his explanations for why made no sense at all.
It just became apparent that maybe a very few amount of people are transgender and know so from birth, and the rest are playing charades around how they want to be perceived. It seems like a narcissist play where everyone have to treat them as "special" people from now, where they get a wider range of tools to keep other people in check and call them transphobic when they resist, and any of your own potential wrongdoings of the past can be removed.

 

[Geoffrey of Zealand]

It just became apparent that maybe a very few amount of people are transgender and know so from birth, and the rest are playing charades around how they want to be perceived.

I am 100% sure that "I always knew" is part of what they are coached to say during the grooming process.

 

[TruffleSpark]

I am 100% sure that "I always knew" is part of what they are coached to say during the grooming process.

Reminder that trans people "forget" they are trans and revert to their original gender identity if/when they develop dementia.

https://ifamnews.com/en/demented-transgender-patients-remember-only-their-biological-sex

I already had my doubts, but learning this is what convinced me this whole thing is fake. From top to bottom.

 

[LimeRikki]

Reminder that trans people "forget" they are trans and revert to their original gender identity if/when they develop dementia.

https://ifamnews.com/en/demented-transgender-patients-remember-only-their-biological-sex

I already had my doubts, but learning this is what convinced me this whole thing is fake. From top to bottom.

Yeah, learning about the gender identity "reversal" among trans dementia patients really threw me.

I'm not a 100% fully peaked yet*, but i'm probably gonna be there sooner or rather than later.

Spoiler: *

I am very much still cling to a medicalized version - Gender dysphoria is a subset of body integrity identity disorder (where people have a strong desire to amputate limbs and disable themselves). The thing is, BIID isn't treated by cutting off arms and legs or removing your eyeballs; it's treated with intense, pretty much lifelong, therapy.

 

[grenouille crétine]

I am 100% sure that "I always knew" is part of what they are coached to say during the grooming process.

Even if you didn’t “always know” ie are not quite so practiced at lying/being directly led by suggestion as some troons, gender docs will still encourage you to retcon your childhood and make essentialist statements about normal childhood variance. You are 100% correct.

 

[grimacefetishist]

Yeah, learning about the gender identity "reversal" among trans dementia patients really threw me.

I'm not a 100% fully peaked yet*, but i'm probably gonna be there sooner or rather than later.

Spoiler: *

I am very much still cling to a medicalized version - Gender dysphoria is a subset of body integrity identity disorder (where people have a strong desire to amputate limbs and disable themselves). The thing is, BIID isn't treated by cutting off arms and legs or removing your eyeballs; it's treated with intense, pretty much lifelong, therapy.

Yeah dude I've always felt a strong, malaise feeling of the "born in the wrong body" variety, that's why I was susceptible to the tranny sympathy thing. But I'm also super-duper anti cosmetic surgery so I decided to do therapy about it instead.

The push push push of cosmetic surgery to "become better than Cis women" is so contrary to everything I believe. It's like ritual purity to these people. But at least most established religions have people actually achieve something like being able to total fast for prolonged times. The trans religion is just an opiate addiction.

 

[Jacques1194]

I am 100% sure that "I always knew" is part of what they are coached to say during the grooming process.

A large majority of the time when they say "I always knew I was trans"they bring up a story about how them doing something like playing with their sister's dolls=I was a girl this whole time.Which is question begging because as a kid I would sometimes play dolls with my sister, and i never thought I was a girl.In fact, a guy friend of my sister loved playing dolls, and it turned out he was gay, not trans.Stories like that dont even really prove transgenderism because we might as well all be trans if we ever did something as kids that wasn't stereotypical for our sex.I will say though that I do remember the weirdest story by a TIM who said that he knew he was trans when he was a kid, because he claims that when he took baths with his sister as babies that when he saw his sister's vagina, he wanted one as well, which some how proved he was trans.It was a very weird story.

 

[AnOminous]

I already had my doubts, but learning this is what convinced me this whole thing is fake. From top to bottom.

I love how when these scumbags go senile they'll wake up screaming every day when they don't understand why their dicks are gone. Suck it you worthless miserable fucks.

The push push push of cosmetic surgery to "become better than Cis women" is so contrary to everything I believe.

It shows the absolute, literal contempt these evil fucks have for real women.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

The thing is, BIID isn't treated by cutting off arms and legs or removing your eyeballs; it's treated with intense, pretty much lifelong, therapy.

Sadly, there were reports of doctors doing things like using an eyedropper to apply drain cleaner to patients' eyes in response to BIID.

 

[FedPostalService]

A large majority of the time when they say "I always knew I was trans"they bring up a story about how them doing something like playing with their sister's dolls=I was a girl this whole time.Which is question begging because as a kid I would sometimes play dolls with my sister, and i never thought I was a girl.In fact, a guy friend of my sister loved playing dolls, and it turned out he was gay, not trans.Stories like that dont even really prove transgenderism because we might as well all be trans if we ever did something as kids that wasn't stereotypical for our sex.I will say though that I do remember the weirdest story by a TIM who said that he knew he was trans when he was a kid, because he claims that when he took baths with his sister as babies that when he saw his sister's vagina, he wanted one as well which some how proved he was trans.It was a very weird story.

Toddler boys will play with a doll if it’s there, they will tend to gravitate to more stereotypical boy toys but it’s not a sign of anything.

I feel for how many boys just checked that their sister’s baby doll was comfy only to have their liberal parents see him, put them him a dress, and start calling him Lilith.