When you began to see the world differently ? (I mean politically, ideologically and morally wise)

[Cool Dude 69]

I used to be a little Tumblr SJW in the 2010's, but at this rate... I'm just kind of on team "Everything is bullshit." and I don't pay attention to the opinions of anyone who doesn't/hasn't have/had a real job.
That being said, I'm still anti-racismy stuff, and cool with the LGBT and Q.

 

[vanilla_pepsi_head]

I read the wikipedia articles for babby's first political theory and realized nobody I know has a coherent political philosophy. It's really just red vs blue and the marching orders come from TV.

Pretty much this. Even worse, I'm an American living in Canada and it gets on my tits something fierce when Canadians who don't even understand how the American government works start offering their brain dead takes on US politics or go full on in to the partisan faggotry and call themselves "Democrats" because they watch CNN (right wingers never seem to do this). Nigger shut the fuck up, you don't even know what is going on with the political situation up here in your own country and you've spent less than 72 hours cumulative in the US your entire life. These people chime in with such groundbreaking contributions such as "orange man bad" like I never heard it and asked for their mongoloid opinion to help me decide what to think about Trump.

I guess 2016 served as a sharp kick in the teeth by revealing that when it comes to politics and world events, the average person has little to no idea what the fuck they're actually talking about. I'm not even talking about differing political views that I personally find retarded, but people just not knowing their basic facts or how things work but shooting their mouths off anyway. I'd naively assumed that if someone was discussing a topic, it meant they cared enough to know a little about it. Turns out a lot of the people who I assumed had at least a basic understanding were actually just parroting talking points they remembered from social media, but if you actually try to engage them in open ended discussion about whatever they're discussing, you just get a lot of blank slack jawed stares or a derail into name-calling. Since when did it become so hip and cool to be a loudmouth politisperg that NPCs who don't truly understand or care about politics fucking pretend they do to (presumably) impress or fit in with their peers? This is what cool people do now? I don't know if it was 2016, but that's when it became so obvious that I couldn't avoid it if I wanted to.

I knew people were fucking dumb, but the covid bullshit still managed to destroy a scrap of hope for humanity that I didn't know I had. So many people willing to advocate for lockdowns just so they can keep rotting at home collecting gibs, watching Netflix, ordering takeout/Amazon shit, and be patted on the ass and told they're a hero for living this disgusting lifestyle. Then they all went crying to doctors because muh mental health, but are too retarded to see cause and effect, they'd rather pop SSRIs and collect a disability check for depresshun to mope around all day than return to work and appreciate their time off. Not only were the bulk of the population willing to sell their soul for that, but almost just as many were positively jizzing their pants over the faggy little power trip they could get by getting all indignant and obnoxiously pointing out when someone wasn't adhering well enough to arcane security theater rituals. If they could get someone kicked out of somewhere, fired, fined, or arrested, they'd do it, post it on social media for validation, and they'd all jerk off to that for days. I was already familiar with the Stanford Prison Experiment so I probably should've known a lot of people are actually fucking like this but seeing it was something else. Come to think of it, covid was basically watching an applied demonstration of every lesson I remember from my very first psychology course in university. Prison experiment, Milgram experiment, sunk cost fallacy, cognitive dissonance, learned helplessness, situational depression, groupthink, mass hysteria...

I've never been an optimistic person by nature but to say I'm really not feeling great about the future is an understatement. However, from what I've heard and read, a lot of people described feeling the same way I do now in the 60s, and that helps keep things in perspective.

 

[AlmightyMagichan]

I've never been an optimistic person by nature but to say I'm really not feeling great about the future is an understatement. However, from what I've heard and read, a lot of people described feeling the same way I do now in the 60s, and that helps keep things in perspective.

If it makes you feel any better, throughout history people and society have always been like this. They just didn't have the means to record every stupid thing that was going on and put it on display for the whole world to see.

Kind of makes you realize why monks have been around for so long. It's the only way to get the hell away from society and try to live a peaceful, worry free life.

 

[Mister Uno]

I guess this is a bit of a blogpost but...

Doesn't matter what I was as a teenager, but as I was approaching adulthood I really started to browse 8/pol/. Was a whole new world for me that made sense, and at the time 8/pol/ was pretty damn good compared to 4/pol/. This was pre-2016 election. Lost a good friend due to being a bit of a sperg with my newfound ideology. He was gay and I had issues with it, tried to convince he to leave the lifestyle and to be careful. Needless to say one day he just cut all contact, and it taught me to try not to be a sperg. Probably for the best since my opinion on faggotry never changed, if not got worse. I've also lived in different parts of the world, and being around niggers in some of those parts really made me hate them more. I use to not care about race to. I still applaud any black man who hates niggers as well and wishes for the preservation and betterment of their own, but its 1 in 10 from good to bad.

Also use to be a negative Nancy about life, but after adopting a positive outlook life seems pretty good despite the issues we face.

 

[thrasymachus]

For me the war in Syria and the refugee crisis were the start. Then Trump's presidency and the reactions from the left, drag story hour, covid, etc

However looking back at history, things were always bad. Bad in slightly different ways but bad nonetheless. And I would not prefer a theocracy over what we have now. I think it's important to keep in mind most people aren't evil,they're just naive. Their sentiments can be hijacked and exploited by the powerful.

 

[PaleTay]

University but again when I moved to my current houses. It just feels so cold and empty out of the top 1% wealth wise. Myself and many of my friends struggle to find meaning or any connections in the world. Sad part is people are drawn to me, and other friends more so. Saddest part is realizing that the thoughts and prayers crowd will have limited reach, and there's few people like the ones I grew up with.

I've seen a lot of death and suffering, but what really gets me is the lack of connection you find in well non-rich communities. I'm starting to really see why there's a lot of hard drug use and desperation. There's an employee at my gym who plays almost exclusively NF songs (about depression, suicidal thoughts and so on). I see people in their 50s look deeply sad that they don't see their gym friend as often.

Everything feels more temporary, it feels like one works at a job they tolerate, maybe see a couple people they like every once in a while, and after you die in an understaffed home or hospital filled with people who are beyond caring about you. It feels like most connections are only skin-deep now.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Did you think that gommunism means free lolis for neckbeards? Not to fault you, communists have always been cozy with pedos and other weirdos, until they realize it's horrible optics.
Interestingly many leftists are surprised that communism is anti-white, after all it was founded by jews to topple the old elites and take their place. The few white communists were the self-hating cucks of their day. Or at best dumb cattle.

Nah, I just wanted to smash the corporations and take their shit. Actually, that was a minor reason I stopped being a communist, because one of the communist sites I liked (and honestly isn't a bad site since it calls out the bankruptcy of the modern left) would always simp for Roman Polanski and call him innocent which eventually made me do my research on all the weird connections between Western communism and pedophilia (i.e. NAMBLA/David Thorstad, the Sparts, etc.).

I almost regret not getting involved more with communists offline (there were a few at my college, but even back then I thought I'd mostly just meet weirdos and they were supporters of Kshama Sawant's movement which the commie site I read warned was astroturfed) because the average Western communist party is deserving of a Kiwifarms thread since even before the current age of Reddit commies/troons, they're full of fucking weirdos like "Chairman Bob", the aforementioned Sparts (openly pro-NAMBLA), the Posadists, and all sorts of lulzy infighting (which is why there's like hundreds of communist parties in the US alone).

 

[A Pale Shadow]

I'm something of an oddity I'm finding. I was born into a very conservative household with both of my parents pretty staunchly anti-government/anti-authority. I was born redpilled and unlike a lot of people as adolescents I never really rejected my parents world view, rather I just took it in a slightly different direction.

The closest thing I had to a redpill moment would probably be the media circus around Bush the second. News coverage of the Bush administration was such a clown show that it irrevocably damaged my trust in any type of mainstream media. Ya'll fucks needing a gamergate or a 2016 has always frustrated the hell out of me. The media's psyops have been transparently obvious for decades.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

I had several redpilling moments, each of them help course correct my life to the way it is now.
Some background, I was raised in a liberal democrat household but was also a gamer, when I was in my early teens I was a woke sjw to the point I was basically male Lisa Simpson.
There was a moment I was even as annoying as that guy from adam ruins everything and I was an atheist commie.
My first disillusionment from that mindset was when I acted like an asshole to another student at school once over those worldviews and felt bad about it and apologize to this student. This progressed to more smaller events that slowly got me out of that mindset.

But then GamerGate happened, I was not there when Gamergate happened but I was there in it's aftermath. I remember a couple of months after gamergate some youtube comment or some post on a website explained to me in detailed what gamergate was from the gamergater perspective. I really wish I know where that post was made so I can link to that but I don't know where. I never liked Anita Sarkessian and I've never heard of Zoe Quinn before that. When that post explained how the mainstream media sided with the game journos and the feminist for the sake of them being game journos and feminist was my first redpilled on the nature of the press and how liberalism as an ideology was not something that was infallible. The thing that really pissed me off during that era was when Anita got that New York Times journo to go up to Shigeru Miyamoto to basically say "your an evil sexist man, how does that make you feel?". Fuck you, you don't do that to a gaming legend. Most of the GamerGate guys like Sargon and Metokur I only got into a year after it but they helped get me out of any of the remaining sjw mindset in my mind.
Yes, GamerGate was unironically a major redpilling moment. However there were definitely more important ones that came later but it mostly started with GamerGate.

 

[Herrinnert_U_zich_Jezus?]

From 2000 when I got the age of 20, till now I saw the world full of hate and trolls. It only got worse over the years and I moved country to live far away from a city and just have my wife, dogs and a house away from it all. Seen the youtube craze about anti feminists, the rise of Sargon and tranny White. I get my news from this site, listen to MATI streams but don't watch TV, I am happy this way and do reccomend it to others to try it..

 

[CuzinEd]

I never liked faggots lesbians trannies niggers spics Kikes and basically anyone who had skin the color of shit. But my whole life has kind of shaped and formed my political beliefs morals and how I view the world. I think it happens when people start to see and understand how screwed up the world is. Also understanding that the average person isn't very smart. Now not being smart doesn't make them a bad person. But they can still be a problem. The road to hell is paved in good intentions.

The biggest political turning point for me was when I voted for Bush in 2004. That's about the time I decided I wasn't really a Republican either.

 

[Phil Leotardo]

From my late teens to early 20s I was more or less a run-of-the-mill left-liberal ("progressive") atheist. I don't have any interesting story about how I rejected those views. Basically, I just started reading smart people that disagreed with me, e.g. economists, political philosophers, philosophers of religion, etc.

 

[Tequila Jong]

I used to be pretty lefty-social-justicey in the 2010s, though looking back it was just because that's just what was convenient at the time with the people I used to hang out with, and my country had a huge political event in the late 2000s/early 2010s that got everyone into politics - thought it was great at the time, now I wish it never happened. I was always of the opinion that you should never identify with a political stance without setting your own boundaries first (like "what line does my camp have to cross before I reject them"), and, as it happens between 2015 and 2018, the beliefs of people I know and the government of my country started crossing over every single one. It's now become so pervasive that almost everyone I've known in my 20s is now incapable of not sperging out about SJW politics or current affairs - It's Friday night in a bar and I'm here to forget all that shit, can we please talk about anything else? Funnily enough, the more hate crime laws that pass, and the more frowned upon "edgy" humour becomes, I now find the "-ist" jokes I used to condemn to be really fucking funny. Like the forbidden fruit I guess. My girlfriend isn't too happy about it, but she still laughs at the good ones.

I had a huge change round about 2020, I was helping out someone I know building a business, and every single interaction we had with the government (planning, land commission, building control etc etc) had me fantasizing about killdozing the fucking lot. Was a really miserable experience for something that should have been really simple and quite fun for us. That year I got on the wrong side of the law and had to go to court, and the entire process was an absolute joke. Just an exercise in money harvesting, nothing more. Long story short, I now have a massive libertarian streak where I just want the government to fuck off, die, and leave me the hell alone. But every year that passes, they don't.

tl;dr thanks to the attitudes of people I know and the actions of my government, I've been catapulted back to the politics of my teenage self. And I didn't think that faggot could be right about anything.

 

[Spiny Rumples]

For me I think it was during GamerGate. I was convinced that it was just a protest about corruption, and I remember how surreal it felt to see people arguing on youtube about whether this was a protest or a hate movement (with paragraphs full of linked citations in both sides' responses).
Seeing how Snopes and Wikipedia and Colbert covered it made me much more careful about saying my opinions.

That led me into a rabbit hole of trying to figure out 'victimhood' and 'stupid dangerous male oppressors' and other stuff that I was raised believing.

Now I see a lot more context and realize that ideologies have a lot of power plays based on half-truths. I don't share my opinions publicly, but I don't take sides too seriously these days.

 

[CiaphasCain]

In the 2000s-2010s I was your typical left-wing Atheist that was open to letting people do whatever they want, then around 2014-15 I realized people were starting to suggest strange things and rabid consumerism seemed to be taking over. Its quite hard to consolidate the amount of insane shit we've seen over the last 7 years but I'd say it was the LGBT and race theory propaganda that tipped me over the edge. I really did begin to realize that a lot of people in places of power had political agendas and anyone who even slightly disagreed was labelled as an enemy. One of the biggest red flags was that people were perfectly willingly to cover things up because discussing the issue was "problematic" and might upset people. I became much more aware of Globalism and that Globalists were not interested in opening doors for everyone, they just want to open certain doors for certain people and screw over everyone else. I realized that the people who preached "love and peace" were not interested in love and peace at all, a majority of them are degenerates who want no barriers in society so they do their awful shit without anyone questioning them.

On the point of morals I now find myself agreeing more and more with the religious types I ignored when I was younger. I am certainly not religious and I never will be but I realize that a lot of those modest religious people had a genuine point. Do not become one of those scrubs who binge drinks and huffs nitrous balloons, there is a lot more to life than coom, consume and die. Getting a good career and taking responsibility for yourself and others is never something you should avoid. Nihilism is the mind killer.

I think overall what I've learned over the past 6-7 years is against what I was taught in school and what I believed when I was a teenager. Gatekeeping is very important to society and just because someone is preaching "love and peace" doesn't mean they want it. If a greasy man in a wig wants to get into the women's bathroom and it really doesn't feel right its not because you lack understanding, its because you're right to be highly suspicious.

Be modest, take responsibility and stand up for your beliefs without being belligerent. One day the sun will rise even if you don't live to see it.

jk fuck niggers and trannies

 

[Alphasnail]

University in the mid 2010s. I went to school as an open minded libertarian, and didn't get too involved in politics. I honestly believed that liberals would be more open minded and refreshing than my boomer hometown. I learned from experience that localized art and creativity is essential to save people from having their culture dictated to them by increasingly centralized forces, and that there would be people at university who could help me move that direction. Instead politics became unavoidable and I found out that nobody today sees art as anything but activism and propaganda. Seeing people on campus literally crying over Donald trumps victory was shocking. I never voted for him but I thought it was funny, but the students and professors were mourning, they literally think we elected Hitler. It wasn't funny. It wasn't funny seeing the searing hatred for the naive conservatives I grew up with. It was just way out of proportion with the kind of tribal razzing from back home. I got really depressed and became more isolated, and then I saw mde world peace. It's not the end all be all, but it gave a voice to what I was seeing that was much more coherent than maga 2016 4chan culture. Since then I've learned a lot more about politics history and weird esoteria. can't say I'm exactly right wing, but right wing culture is the only place that's addressing the real issues.

 

[Ghostie with the Mostie]

I’m Gen Z, so despite being brought up in a conservative household, I was a massive SJW. A lot of people my age are taught to be tolerant, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing until we tolerate things that just aren’t on. I’ve posted in the trans support thread about my partners brothers gf who pretends to be a toddler and a dog, or people like Jonathan Yaniv who clearly pretends to be a woman for sexual pleasure. That’s not right and we can’t keep pretending it is. Sure there’s people diagnosed with actual gender dysphoria and that’s different, but being a MtF/FtM because you have a fetish? Not ok . All this to say I’ve gone from proper lefty to centre. I’m still very tolerant in person but it’s fucked that people like me can’t express our discomfort of grown men in dresses in our female spaces without being called TERFs ,

 

[Professor G. Raff]

I hate to go with the biggest cliche in this whole thread, but I was firmly in the right-wing bad lefty because my mom was right-wing state when younger which changed during Gamergate. I was never a socialist or anything super leftist but seeing the blatant lies coming from the anti-Gamergate side, the entire moneyed establishment of journalism and industry coming down on what was basically a grass roots consumer revolt and calling itself the victim by using -isms was a big unmasking moment for what the left actually stood for to me. I had seen Metokur's (or rather, Internet Aristocrat's at the time) Tumblrisms series and thought that hilariously dumb sytle of thinking was confined to online Tumblr weirdos... but then it became mainstream with Gamergate and it repulsed me, and of course it breached even that and became literally the entire world government in every western country in a truly surreal few years. Seeing the tactics used during GG become openly adopted by mainstream media leading up to and in 2016 was actually bone chilling and I lost almost all faith in media and government, most especially of the left-wing variety.

Despite all this, my mom is still stupid though.

 

[Ser Prize]

I’m Gen Z, so despite being brought up in a conservative household, I was a massive SJW. A lot of people my age are taught to be tolerant, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing until we tolerate things that just aren’t on. I’ve posted in the trans support thread about my partners brothers gf who pretends to be a toddler and a dog, or people like Jonathan Yaniv who clearly pretends to be a woman for sexual pleasure. That’s not right and we can’t keep pretending it is. Sure there’s people diagnosed with actual gender dysphoria and that’s different, but being a MtF/FtM because you have a fetish? Not ok . All this to say I’ve gone from proper lefty to centre. I’m still very tolerant in person but it’s fucked that people like me can’t express our discomfort of grown men in dresses in our female spaces without being called TERFs ,

Hate to negrate you but I'm wary of "Man it's those fake trannies that are awful love real trannies" becoming the new 'centre'. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness and HRT is not a valid way to improve their lives. Everything's life is made poorer in the exchange, excepting perhaps the medical stooge's pocketbook...

 

[Ghostie with the Mostie]

Hate to negrate you but I'm wary of "Man it's those fake trannies that are awful love real trannies" becoming the new 'centre'. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness and HRT is not a valid way to improve their lives. Everything's life is made worse in the exchange, excepting perhaps the medical stooge's pocketbook…

That’s absolutely ok and I respect your opinion fren. To be honest I don’t have a sold opinion as I’m still trying to work my way through years of conditioning and figure out my own opinions. It’s hard when you’ve been told one thing for years and then you grow up and realise that actually , somethings just shouldn’t be accepted. I appreciate your input though!