When you began to see the world differently ? (I mean politically, ideologically and morally wise)

But the event that really pushed me to the right more than anything else was The Rape of Cologne. That happened on New Years eve when 2015 turned 2016.
Like a thousand Syrian and North Africa refugees from a refugee center in Cologne decided to organize a mass rape that night on a New Years celebration that year using Egyptian rape gang tactics.
The media in Germany and abroad stayed silent on it. In fact the first place it was being discussed was my regular people on the internet. The German government didn't know how to react to it without trying to pretend that their ideology has failed.
Western feminists who had been screaming for years about "rape culture" were completely silent on what just happened in Cologne. I remember the German government barely did anything about it either.
For the first time the western world appeared truly insane to me for allowing this to happened.
Being mostly ethnic German, this was the first time in my life I felt that my people and culture were being threatened.
It was a major redpill on the state of the western world and greatly shifted myself further right than what I was comfortable with previously.
I remember seeing videos of the 'refugees' swarming like rats. I knew then it was trouble, and I've only been vindicated since. I hope you people in the Fatherland remember your claws. Let the Teutonics rise to their invaders with blade in hand.
 
It's one of those things that's really hard to explain though. Every time I do I feel like I'm underselling it.

The basic-bitch way I can put it is... I felt like I was seeing "real" for the first time. Every other book/movie/anime/interpretive dance/whatever is filtered through perspective and I didn't realize before reading Three Kingdoms how a lot of modern perspectives--even as far back as 100 years ago--have become kinda childish. Three Kingdoms gave me this major "the veil has been lifted" feeling.

But again, its hard to explain why. Any explanation I give feels inadequate.

Come on, man, just give me an example. Im sure we can get it, we are on the same level here.

Tho its fine if you dont want or feel like you cant but I was just curious either way.
 
I know this was mentioned a while ago by another user but I spent a lot of my life working and never paid attention to politics or the news. Matter o Fact I had no television in my home until way later in my life didn't use my phone or internet I would work out and if not working out. Id try to be out and about in the world doing my own thing. but what really got me I believe the lancelet claiming HCQ didn't work for Covid just bc Trump said so. Now was I aware the media would spin things to their liking based on who they were leaning towards yeah, did I hear the republicans were not the popular party bc it was full of rich assholes and that's why they always got shots taken at them yeah. But seeing that happen in real time was just the weirdest thing to me and then came out the whole thing were scientist said oo yeah we knew it was true but to disagree would make you a republican and automatically on the side of trump so I stayed quiet.
Really Resonated with me left me in shock and made me take the stance that I take now. Love my Country Hate the Government & People by and large suck and the good ones are hard to find especially now I'm a bit more active online and its beyond scary the level of sway these massive media conglomerates have or did have and how many useful idiots they have at their disposal
 
I hate to admit this, but sometime between the time I found out about PRISM/Stellar Wind, four-to-five years before Snowden started talking to the media, and when I started smoking weed. I started to wonder what else was illegal, and why the government was so interested in my personal life. As it turned out, my entire list of things I wanted to do/be as an adult were either illegal, regulated to the point of obscurity or impossiblity, or so prohibitively expansive that I'd need to reroll my save file until I was born the son of a billionaire. These weren't even lofty goals. For example, I wanted to be a farmer, once. Then I looked into it and realized that those guys are treated worse than just about any other vocational group on Planet Earth, and all the money they make goes straight back into the hands of Monsanto, John Deere, and the USDA. They live like fucking paupers, despite having several million dollars in assets that some courts now argue they don't even own.

Repeat this process of researching all avenues of life that I considered interesting for over a decade, and one realizes pretty quickly that certain types of surname pop up more regularly than others, when it comes to who is responsible for making things the way they are now. I wonder why that may be?

I slowly grew to hate every form of "authority" society has, because, let's be real honest, how could these chucklefucks possibly know better than me? Well, as it turns out, they don't. Every time some reptoid holding a public office opens the cuntflaps it calls a mouth, nine times out of ten, it says the most absurdly retarded thing anyone could ever say about that particular subject. It's genuinely appalling how unwise and unknowledgeable the people you call your "leadership", actually are. They are not intelligent, they are not well-read, they are the most inhuman scumfucks that ever slithered into a skinsuit. From school principles, to cops, all the way up to the president. They get their power because of their ignorance, not because of what they know.

Be your own authority. Because you actually do know better.
 
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It has been going on sine Childhood for me, with the whole illuminati thing, then I saw the degradation of Masculinity and Western culture.
 
GamerGate led me to see that the tranny activism was the contemporary instance of what my dad had protested as faggot activism in my youth. Led me to discard both and see the forces aligned to compromise the nation's that were once referred to as Christendom. Brought me back to the church and got me politically active.
 
I grew up in a low income neighborhood. I had friends of all colors and creeds. We all had our difference but we’re able to work them out on the soccer or football fields. Even fights were relegated to just being barbaric, a means to resolve a conflict Afterwards, kids could move past it, even sometimes becoming friends.

I didn’t experience true hatred or vitriol until 9/1/2001. We were in the middle of class swap when a group of students attacked one of the faculty members who wore a hajib. “Terrorist!” They shoved her down and removed her headpiece. She fell to the ground and began crying hysterically to the laughter and shock of students crowding around the scene. The kids who removed the hajib took off, and any assistance offered to the woman was rejected. It was only a few weeks after that incident where she tendered her resignation.

I had no involvement in the incident, but it impacted me greatly. I had always looked at a person beyond the color of their skin, their accents, the type of clothing they wore - but all of this, and more, became a focal point after witnessing the attack of that teacher. I started judging people by the quality of their clothes, their mannerisms, and attributing them to the worst thing. A person was no longer annoying just because they were a nuisance, it was potentially because they were poor and black - and black people are fucking annoying. Literally annoying because of your skin color. Insignificant quarrels were now amplified due to feeling ethnically superior to others. Being able to call someone a “spic” and command such reaction and emotion from them was intoxicating.

Up until that very point in time, I was largely innocent and ignorant to the feeling of power that comes with hatred. I hate it. I hate coming to this site, visiting A&N, and when there is a particularly egregious article, I’ll automatically play the “guess the race” game with myself, then look to the comments for validation. I lie to myself and others when I claim to not be prejudiced. Even though I still have friends of all ethnicities and nationalities, I still hold to those damning generalizations.

I really wish I weren’t this way, but if not then, something else would have spurred the same thoughts in the future.
 
Come on, man, just give me an example. Im sure we can get it, we are on the same level here.

Tho its fine if you dont want or feel like you cant but I was just curious either way.
I'm racking my brains to try and come up with a way to explain it, but I just don't think I can do it justice.

Even the example I'm about to give basically will sound like "dude I figured that out when I was fifteen" for most readers. That's kind of the catch-22 in that one reason I feel like I'm underselling is because the parts I can explain are the most basic bitch parts.

But just for example, Three Kingdoms broke me out of "binary thinking." American culture makes everything binary--Autobot vs Decepticon, He-Man vs Skeletor, Left vs Right, Optimist vs Cynic....

This even goes for ancient concepts. Like depending on who you talk to, you either hear that samurai were intensely honor-driven (code of Bushido and all that) or they were basically glorified thugs.

Three Kingdoms though revealed to me what the truth actually was. Which was that basically none of this shit is actually in opposition, they just sort of all inhabit the same world and basically any notion that they "oppose" each other is a human invention.

And on top of that, just seeing how these people thought and behaved and how they could easily make decisions that modern people would've angsted over... just kinda gave me the impression that the modern world is full of retards and we as a species have been going just perpetually downhill.

Its like, Dune used to be my barometer of intelligence... but then I read it again later and realized a lot of the characters in Dune talk about how super-smart they are, but its not really demonstrated in their actions.

........ Yeah, I'm really failing to explain this. Maybe a zen master could, but I'm not a wordsmith.
 
Maybe I can help you out a little bit. I haven't read Three Kingdoms but the concepts you're describing sound familiar.

But just for example, Three Kingdoms broke me out of "binary thinking." American culture makes everything binary--Autobot vs Decepticon, He-Man vs Skeletor, Left vs Right, Optimist vs Cynic....
That sounds like black and white thinking. The world is a very grey place, but that makes things very complicated which most people don't like. It's so much simpler when it's just good vs evil. You see a lot of that in kids shows too. You certainly see that kind of extreme thinking these days. Just look at the Harry Potter controversy that's going on. Rowling said one thing the left doesn't like, and now she's a hellspawn demon that must be destroyed.

This even goes for ancient concepts. Like depending on who you talk to, you either hear that samurai were intensely honor-driven (code of Bushido and all that) or they were basically glorified thugs.
That kind of builds on the last point. History in particular can get very romanticized. The saying is that history isn't necessarily what happened, it's what people say happened. So if you really liked the samurai you'll focus on their good aspects like bushido, but if you don't like them you'll focus on how Lords would hire them as mercenaries to do nasty shit. The truth is somewhere in the middle, but again people don't things being grey.
Three Kingdoms though revealed to me what the truth actually was. Which was that basically none of this shit is actually in opposition, they just sort of all inhabit the same world and basically any notion that they "oppose" each other is a human invention.
This kind of stuff can get really complicated, but maybe I can summarize it a little. I think about how it's become really popular to say that there's systematic oppression and culture built around things like racism and misogyny. Again that stems back the black and white way of thinking. It's much easier to just say that they whole system is broken instead of combing though it to find the actual problems. You also end up finding lots of examples that go against that kind of mindset which breaks the whole argument.
Like for example, gamergate was the claim that all guys who play videogames inherently hate women and that they industry is controlled by raging misogynists. Then you find out that that whole thing was started by Zoe Quinn because she made a crappy indie game that no one cared about. She started sleeping around with game reviewers in exchange for better reviews, then when someone called her out on it she started this whole "It's not my fault, the system is corrupt" rant that ended up taking off. You could argue that most conflicts start because a couple of people want something, can't get it, so they make it the entire worlds problem.
Or better yet look at what caused WW1. An Austrian archduke got assassinated by a serbian nationalist, so they decided to blame the entire country and go to war. Then Germany used this as an excuse to attack France, and Russia uses it to attack Belgium. Before you know it the entire world is trying to blow itself up thanks to a handful of opportunists.
And on top of that, just seeing how these people thought and behaved and how they could easily make decisions that modern people would've angsted over... just kinda gave me the impression that the modern world is full of retards and we as a species have been going just perpetually downhill.
You can chalk that up to how comfortable and privileged things have become thanks to all our technology. It wasn't that long ago that electricity and running water didn't exist. Life was a hell of a lot harsher and difficult decisions had to be made quickly. When you compare it to today it's ridiculous how small and petty peoples complaints are. Especially when they act like it's the end of the world because their coffee order was wrong.
Its like, Dune used to be my barometer of intelligence... but then I read it again later and realized a lot of the characters in Dune talk about how super-smart they are, but its not really demonstrated in their actions.
That sounds like a classic case of show, don't tell. I'm guessing that Three Kingdoms actually has the characters doing smart things instead of them just announcing how great they are. You still see that problem all the time. Like in Star Wars the Jedi were supposed to be these wise sages, but they turned out to be a bunch of bickering bureaucrats who don't notice a Sith Lord is right under their noses taking over the government.
 
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what is your "taking the red pill" story?

It's an ongoing process.

Born in Russia, wew.
Humanities student; wait a minute, why are they selling what they're supposed to be preserving, and who would unironically like Bauhaus?
What am I gonna do with this useless-ass uni degree? Oh, I know! Fly to Cana-there's a guy in my Zoom class whom the 70-year old tutor refers to as "she", what?
We're now at war... but not at war? You also can't leave? Sounds like a good time to me.
Christ, WHY do people do all these stupid things?
Thanks for coming to my...

Having grown up in 2000-2010s Russia (pre-21st cen toddler years notwithstanding), I knew it in my gut since adolescence that politics are to be steered clear of. But then again, so did everyone else. Works so far.

Being a bit slow on the uptake, yours truly has only started figuring out that not all's well and good while in the university - slavic culture, linguistics, museum-keeping and so on; money motifs seem to phase out everything related to diligent preservation of craft and tradition.
Well, nothing unusual there, I suppose, but it nevertheless had started the ball rolling.
The presenting as "high fashion" and turning into merchandise of half-forgotten cultural items (and the blatant money laundering gig known as "modern art") was another thing. Oh, you want some practical article of clothing with some *checks notes* gzhel sewn on it? That'll be 200$. Literal human diarrhea, splattered on a canvas? 20000$. Donate that shit (no pun intended) to a museum and get a tax write-off today! The noggin has broken into a light jog.

Education degrees. Well, you probably know all about those. Having bought into the meme, I foolishly flew out to Canada in the middle of Wu Flu bullshit only to thankfully fuck off empty-handed before all the non-vaxxed were prohibited to leave the country. Suffice to say, my time in GTA suburbs still feels like a fever dream. Who the fuck puts a pride flag (with all the DLCs, no less!) on a church?

Now, I knew that the state tends to interpret interests of the people a little loosely, but mandatory conscription (and the prison-like conditions in which the Ru army recruits are kept) during a war not officially declared and tremendously increased penalties for avoiding/dodging the draft/surrendering during battle/deserting sounds a little... a little unreal? Anyone? Oh, I'm probably just a softie, not wanting to die for a gang of ex-cons that just so happened to inherit governmental positions after Gay Space Communism fizzled out.

But honestly, all that is more or less just an aside to my current conundrum which seems to be the human condition itself. Having read a little bit about evolutionary/biological/general psychology plus some history analysis, I'm having a hard time... well, in general. We hoard beyond any reasonable margin and compete out of sheer instinct, believing convenient lies told in our interest while fucking near every other species, including those symbiotic to us, into submission. Mind you, I'm no animal rights nut or eco-activist, yet I cannot help but wonder how bulk farmers/meat processing facility crew live with themselves. There are whole scientific fields devoted to how fucking retarded the human brain is wired and how to smooth the ride while Powers That Be mercilessly exploit it all.

Knowing all that nasty stuff, you'd think the present would be a great time in looking for a positive side to it all but somehow, more and more "Top 50 Ways Your Own Nature Fucks You Over!" articles keep ending up on my plate. Worse yet, it's fascinating, generally well-written and highly engaging literature to read. And, to top it off, I am still generally impressionable. Oh, and now there's AI starting to gun for our collective arse. Fun times ahead!

A reddit post may have not been the reply OP was intending to receive, but it felt nice to share. Have a (You) semi-related greentext.
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It was 2014. At the time I knew the gaming industry inside out. And when the stories of Zoe Quinn banging for awards, industry position, and coverage, it didn't surprise me.

What surprised me was the entire gaming industry, this institutions backlash against it's own patrons, branding all of the them fascist/racist/misogynistic/nazis/ISIS, even if they were the "BIPOCS" they were supposedly for.

That shocked me. And led me to the revelation that these institutions are just run by people, flawed, corrupted by power, people. Who merely wanted to protect the facade of their institution and their supply of pussy, while the women wanted to protect their grift. Others who were still trusting in those establishments went along with the narrative.

Once I applied the framework of this particular scenario against the wider world. Everything started to make much more sense.
 
honestly it's hard to say
i've always been fucking weird? I'm not sure I ever "took the redpill" per say, especially since my family's always had relatively alternative beliefs and I grew up mostly in a bubble around them. I know politics wasn't an issue until I was maybe eleven or twelve and more active online, at which point I was a hardcore fencesitter who was mostly in support of alphabet people and no particular political candidate just so I could stay out of trouble. Unfortunately, over time, I kind of just slipped into the same social justice circles every teenager who spends a signficiant amount of time online does, even if I was never really as rabid as most.

During my time in those circles, I was basically walking on eggshells ad infinitum but had no idea since I fit in and kept my head down enough for people not to make huge fusses about what I did on a regular basis. These were the types to list seven different sexualities in their bios and virtue signal until the day they died, and I thought it was perfectly normal for a while.
It was only after I slipped up once in a pretty minor and average way (for a 13 year old; from what I remember, I think I told a friend of mine something private that I was upset about that related to another friend. basically just broke a promise) that I realized something was off, because these people spent the next few hours verbally harassing me and screeching about how I'd manipulated a friend just by telling her something bad someone else had done to me in a chat where that exact person and I had been exchanging memes. Even as a gullible idiot who was pretty easily hurt by stuff like this, I smelled bullshit and began questioning if these people were worth listening to.

From there I spun off into my own research on whatever came up instead of listening to other opinions. 2020 election? Searching for info myself online from multiple sources. COVID? Same situation. Hardly listened to anybody online anymore, and i'm much better-off for it. That's also kinda how I got places like here and 4chan, since I was looking for every source possible and that sometimes required stepping foot in the "no-go zone"s that i'd been told to avoid my entire internet life

I'll admit, I'm not sure this thought process has been 100% beneficial? I can safely say i've never been able to respect anyone outside my parents since then, whatsoever, as everyone I admired has slowly but surely been revealed and blatantly confirmed to be some form of degenerate or scumbag otherwise. I've come to accept it as part of humanity, one that normal people try to repress for the sake of getting to the top but can't hold back anymore once they get there, though it hasn't made me all that warm to humanity as a result lmao.

As for morals- who knows lol. Politics has been so all-consuming as of late that i've been far more focused on shutting that bullshit out than letting much else back in. I've been trying to figure out those morals as of late and I definitely want a good set to stick to by the time I have a family to raise, but as of now I don't think i've ever had the time to stop and think about them for too long.

Apologies if I powerleveled a bit there? My situation isn't like most of yours where it was one worldwide/local event or a slow realization, it was kind of just a personal wake-up call from a bunch of faggots who called themselves my friend once upon a time.
 
I hate to admit this, but sometime between the time I found out about PRISM/Stellar Wind, four-to-five years before Snowden started talking to the media, and when I started smoking weed. I started to wonder what else was illegal, and why the government was so interested in my personal life. As it turned out, my entire list of things I wanted to do/be as an adult were either illegal, regulated to the point of obscurity or impossiblity, or so prohibitively expansive that I'd need to reroll my save file until I was born the son of a billionaire. These weren't even lofty goals. For example, I wanted to be a farmer, once. Then I looked into it and realized that those guys are treated worse than just about any other vocational group on Planet Earth, and all the money they make goes straight back into the hands of Monsanto, John Deere, and the USDA. They live like fucking paupers, despite having several million dollars in assets that some courts now argue they don't even own.

Repeat this process of researching all avenues of life that I considered interesting for over a decade, and one realizes pretty quickly that certain types of surname pop up more regularly than others, when it comes to who is responsible for making things the way they are now. I wonder why that may be?

I slowly grew to hate every form of "authority" society has, because, let's be real honest, how could these chucklefucks possibly know better than me? Well, as it turns out, they don't. Every time some reptoid holding a public office opens the cuntflaps it calls a mouth, nine times out of ten, it says the most absurdly retarded thing anyone could ever say about that particular subject. It's genuinely appalling how unwise and unknowledgeable the people you call your "leadership", actually are. They are not intelligent, they are not well-read, they are the most inhuman scumfucks that ever slithered into a skinsuit. From school principles, to cops, all the way up to the president. They get their power because of their ignorance, not because of what they know.

Be your own authority. Because you actually do know better.
I wanted to be a mountain man hunter-trapper. Obvious to say that dream died long, long before I was ever born.
 
Repeat this process of researching all avenues of life that I considered interesting for over a decade, and one realizes pretty quickly that certain types of surname pop up more regularly than others, when it comes to who is responsible for making things the way they are now. I wonder why that may be?
Don't hate on those "certain surnames". Six million of their ancestors were brutally enslaved. It is one of the most historically documented events ever and not just amplified Soviet propaganda.
Whilst it is annoying some of them do not appreciate the sacrifice of tens of thousands of White Americans ending it, people surnamed Washington/Brown/Coleman/Jackson aren't that bad.
 
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When I was a kid I had a weird brush with religion, where I got sucked into the hype of christianity without really thinking about it, and when I finally had my wits together I thought that it was kind of terrifying. So over time I grew to hate religion and religious people, eventually morphing into an unironic, fedora-tipping, rationalwiki-using, up-his-own-ass internet atheist. The only thing I was missing was a reddit account.

Eventually I said some nasty thing to a Christian english teacher that I otherwise had a good relationship with and it didn't sit right with me. I started looking at all the people around me and started wondering why they were all so hateful. I understood when it came to the grifters, the Young Earth Creationists and weirdos who wouldn't use any form of modern medicine because they were either lolcows or actually caused some form of tangible harm. Increasingly I saw it all as pompous, bitter and discriminatory and realized that I was too. Not only that, but surfing rationalwiki had me engaging with and automatically agreeing with a lot of left ideas without actually thinking about them; the same thing I'd done with Christianity when I was a kid.

I'm still an atheist, but I'm not a huge faggot about it anymore. That being said, the sheer amount of "Christ is Kang" and Catholic Larper faggots I keep running into makes me start reaching for my fedora unconsciously. Hell, one of the reasons I can't stand the left so much is because they're such hypocritical fucks who have a monopoly on what is considered "true", and I'm becoming increasingly concerned that a lot of people on the right hate the left not because of their hypocrisy, but because they aren't the ones who get to control the truth.
 
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Don't hate on those "certain surnames". Six million of their ancestors were brutally enslaved. It is one of the most historically documented events ever and not just amplified Soviet propaganda.
Whilst it is annoying some of them do not appreciate the sacrifice of tens of thousands of White Americans ending it, people surnamed Washington/Brown/Coleman/Jackson aren't that bad.
They'll always tell you what happened to them, but they'll never tell you why. I have more evidence that they're bad people in the modern day than I have evidence of the hall of cost. All of them? No. Enough of them that I can say there's a heritable evil in their culture or genes? Yes.
 
2017. TDS actually pushed me over because I couldn't stand listening to all these hysterical people screeching about how bad Trump was when Trump actually did a few decent things and I thought the left might agree with him on because I still considered myself on the left at the time. It just all seemed so manufactured and without any sense of nuance. I am neither for or against Trump, but he wasn't literally Hitler gassing troons (oh if only). TDSers made me really question the narrative because of how OTT they were.
 
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