Why are trannies hated by the rest of the LGBT community?

Because trannies hate the rest of the LGBT community.
They think they're "more oppressed" than the rest of a group that already can only claim to be oppressed by a very slim margin (in the western world). They barge their way into the Pride movement and feel the need to assert that their issues are somehow more important than all other LGBT issues and that everyone else should back off and put them front and centre.
 
This was actually not my experience before dealing with the sorts from tumblr.

It has been since then, though.
Part of the issue is that (relatively) "normal" trannies don't go around telling everyone they're trannies, since the whole idea of transitioning is to pass as a women/man so people don't even know they're a tranny in the first place.
This is kinda the thing. Some trannies are chill but the (extremely) vocal majority are faggy tumblrites who chimp over pronouns.
 
I feel sorry for those who were unlucky enough to be born trans, you guys might say "but tumblrites lol" but really they are demonized as fuck by many people, its like they were born cursed. I do feel bad for them.
I feel sorry for everyone who has a severe, untreated mental illness.
 
What does the LGBT community think about the rate at which transexuals commit suicide and do not seek mental help before and after transitioning? Do people in the community encourage them to seek help and guidance before and during the process or do they just dismiss it and think the surgeries/hormones will cure all of their ills?
 
What does the LGBT community think about the rate at which transexuals commit suicide and do not seek mental help before and after transitioning? Do people in the community encourage them to seek help and guidance before and during the process or do they just dismiss it and think the surgeries/hormones will cure all of their ills?

I don't know, let me ask the entire LGBT community...
 
Or the massive hands give them away but people are polite enough to hold their tongue
Well in my experience if you pass well enough in other areas, people are likely to just chock it up to weird genetics or something. Assuming of course you're closely examining everyone's hands all the time, which is just a wee bit weird.
 
To play devils advocate though, to the general public they are less understood then gays and lesbians, and if other members of lgbt turn on them, doesn't that prove their point about persecution?

It seems to me the the trans people that pass, judge the ones that don't pass harshly, *Cough Blair white*, which is actually kinda sad, they shouldn't turn on their own people.
 
Just ask Nora Reed, a cishet woman who speaks for the entire LGBT community.

I argued upthread that social media uses enables narcissism. Now I wonder if this may explain the correlation between lolcow status and being trans.

Most of us can maintain the emotional distance between our online presence and our RL selves, and tell the difference between the two. Narcissists can’t—or maybe won’t. In their drive for more attention to their online false self, the false self may begin to drift out of sync with the real body. This could be a source of dysmorphia. Their online persona is seen as the “real” them; their meat body is the one that is wrong.

Of course, it’s also highly likely that many social media trannies are only in it for the political capital you get for claiming to be trans on Twitter/Tumblr.
EDIT: For extremely low self-esteem style narcissists, perhaps this is a type of martyrdom; acquiring narcissistic supply by drawing attention to their suffering. That would be consistent with the behavior style of most SJWs.

Or maybe I’m just talking out of my ass.
 
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What does the LGBT community think about the rate at which transexuals commit suicide and do not seek mental help before and after transitioning? Do people in the community encourage them to seek help and guidance before and during the process or do they just dismiss it and think the surgeries/hormones will cure all of their ills?
Generally, I find that most people, LGBT or not, who are sympathetic toward transsexual people do believe that transition is the end-all be-all cure to any sadness stemming from gender, despite the suicide rates actually slightly increasing for post-op people. For most people it takes a long time to grant access to transitioning, lots of therapy and making sure that they aren't motivated by other issues (read: :autism:) but because of climate changes in the medical community with regard to transsexualism, depending on where you live, accessing hormones and getting surgeries is kind of frighteningly easy. And that's not even taking into account your average Taiwanese doctor with a rusty scissor!
 
Generally, I find that most people, LGBT or not, who are sympathetic toward transsexual people do believe that transition is the end-all be-all cure to any sadness stemming from gender, despite the suicide rates actually slightly increasing for post-op people. For most people it takes a long time to grant access to transitioning, lots of therapy and making sure that they aren't motivated by other issues (read: :autism:) but because of climate changes in the medical community with regard to transsexualism, depending on where you live, accessing hormones and getting surgeries is kind of frighteningly easy. And that's not even taking into account your average Taiwanese doctor with a rusty scissor!

There's a number of issues with the transitioning problem. The chief among them is whether it's actually medically useful or necessary. I think there's a reasonable amount of evidence that, at least for some people, it may be. This is probably about the time there's enough critical mass of actual evidence they can do longitudinal studies and find out actual medical outcomes. Some of this information suggests it's actually unnecessary and harmful and that self-reported satisfaction is not long-lasting.

There's the secondary issue of whether people should be allowed to do it just because they feel like it even without medical necessity. I think they probably should on the general principle that it's your body and you get to decide what to do with it.

The problem is the intersection of these two primary issues.

If it's an elective procedure with no medical necessity, it simply shouldn't be covered by insurance or taxpayer money, unless I suppose insurance companies actually agree to cover it and there's a way of opting out of participating in pools that include this stuff.

On the other hand, if it is medically necessary and people are unreasonably denied it, so that transitioning is okay if you're Bruce Jenner but not a poor black person on Medicaid, that's an injustice as well.

What's complicating this issue is the people who are genuinely becoming deservedly hated in nearly every community, these troons who call actually dysphoric people truscum while insisting transitioning really basically is just a medically unnecessary whim, which would lead inevitably to the conclusion it shouldn't be covered at all and should remain a folly for the wealthy who can afford it.

These people don't know shit about the medical issues in question, and don't give a flying fuck that they're kicking the chair out from under those actually experiencing them.

It's this latter group of extremely noisy fucking idiots who is most likely to be disrupting groups and stopping them from getting real business done to cater to their evil, cancerous bullshit.
 
What does the LGBT community think about the rate at which transexuals commit suicide and do not seek mental help before and after transitioning? Do people in the community encourage them to seek help and guidance before and during the process or do they just dismiss it and think the surgeries/hormones will cure all of their ills?
They probably don't care for legit therapeutic help, given the most vocal communities are cesspits like tumblr (due to transtrenders) and you know how they feel about medical professionals telling you what you can or can't do. That being said, there seems to be a prevailing sense of "Once you get the genitals you want everything else magically falls into line and things are a-ok without disphoria" from some of the community while a sane few- probably actual btdt trannies- admit it's not a magic cure-all and the disphoria will pop up again because of that.

Let's be real, though. Most Transgenders will never get to be 100% what they want to be in their lifetimes, even with medical science currently at the point that we have prosthetic arms with a sense of touch/temperature.
It's safe to assume the rest of the LGBT community doesn't want to open that potential cans of worms when dealing with a stranger that has plenty of baggage already, especially a stranger you don't particularly like in the first place. Doing so would imply you actually, y'know, care about your community and not just about your particular circle of peeps.
 
Let's be real, though. Most Transgenders will never get to be 100% what they want to be in their lifetimes, even with medical science currently at the point that we have prosthetic arms with a sense of touch/temperature.

"No one in the world ever gets what they want and that is beautiful.
Everybody dies frustrated and sad and that is beautiful."
 
"No one in the world ever gets what they want and that is beautiful.
Everybody dies frustrated and sad and that is beautiful."
Well just as women emerged from the shadows in the 80s to become a housewife, have a child, and manage a successful career, trannies, too, believe they can have it all, but for most of them it is only true within their own community. (for most of them, at least)
 
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To play devils advocate though, to the general public they are less understood then gays and lesbians, and if other members of lgbt turn on them, doesn't that prove their point about persecution?

It seems to me the the trans people that pass, judge the ones that don't pass harshly, *Cough Blair white*, which is actually kinda sad, they shouldn't turn on their own people.
I'm not sure how I feel about all this trans stuff in genera, but I'm sure that argument is specious. If you're rely transsexual that means that you're attempting to go from one sex to another, not be both or neither, so if you're making no attempt to pass as your chosen gender you are objectively doing it wrong. I don't see a problem with people in a community attempting to eject/shun people who are doing it wrong.
 
I'm not sure how I feel about all this trans stuff in genera, but I'm sure that argument is specious. If you're rely transsexual that means that you're attempting to go from one sex to another, not be both or neither, so if you're making no attempt to pass as your chosen gender you are objectively doing it wrong. I don't see a problem with people in a community attempting to eject/shun people who are doing it wrong.

There's a difference between making no attempt and making a genuine attempt and genuinely failing. It's hardly fair to ostracise people for the latter, and particularly when those who transition later have a far harder time passing.

Well just as women emerged from the shadows in the 80s to become a housewife, have a child, and manage a successful career, trannies, too, believe they can have it all, but for most of them it is only true within their own community. (for most of them, at least)
More, I'd say, that lolcows think they're entitled to it all an think turning tranny is the way to get it.
 
There's a difference between making no attempt and making a genuine attempt and genuinely failing. It's hardly fair to ostracise people for the latter, and particularly when those who transition later have a far harder time passing.

Eh, that's reasonable but at the same time I don't think it's unreasonable for the tyranny community at large that some people just pass better than others and life isn't fair. My comment was rely more directed at the tumblrinas who get spun out about passing is a construct or say they are trans but also demiboy half girl otherkins respect my pronouns shitlord.
 
To play devils advocate though, to the general public they are less understood then gays and lesbians, and if other members of lgbt turn on them, doesn't that prove their point about persecution?

It seems to me the the trans people that pass, judge the ones that don't pass harshly, *Cough Blair white*, which is actually kinda sad, they shouldn't turn on their own people.
I do not like Blaire White being critical of any since she acts and sounds like a gay man. I do not care how beautiful you are, there's a big difference between a woman with a deep voice and a someone that sounds like Blaire. I do not think all transpeople behave in such a way; I am not trying to be insulting to the LGBT community, but hypocrisy from people that are no way close to perfect should not be celebrated. To make things worse, Blair is also dating someone that looks and acts like a half-baked auti-neck beard. This is why a lot of gay men and trannies hate each other, it's all about who is prettier, who can date the most masculine guy, and who can mainstream more efficiently. This catty behaviour between frenemies pools over into the rest of the LGBT and probably screws up their movement.
 
I know this does not refer to all TG people, but it is an accurate portrayal of Cows or Transtrenders like Cox, Jenner, and Chandler.

What makes you think Cox is a transtrender? Thought she was a respected person in the LGBT community.

I think it's suspicious that trans people, especially trans women, don't just want to look like their gender, but an attractive person of their gender. Looking ugly or too masculine is "triggering". It wouldn't be enough for a transwoman to look like Honey Boo Boo's mom or Leslie Jones when you could look like a Japanese idol or a sorority girl instead. Hmmm...
 
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