why are you still single - and general discussion of the dating game

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

@Party Hat Wurmple I'm not a fan of bars in general, besides I'm too busy at my job to waste my time with that. I did try apps early on out of curiosity but now they're a complete joke. Fuck apps and anyone who uses them, for real.

You don't have to go to bars. I found that going to hangout spots on my old university's campus was good enough to start socializing and interacting with people again.

 

[Fapcop]

Sad to say but even the BIIIGGG girls are getting extremely picky these days.

Used to be, take the heifer out and you're basically going to get the vacuum action.

Now.... Lol not unless you're handsome, exciting and seem to be wealthy.

As with most cases of societal decay: Blame niggers.

For whatever reason, nogs find fat chicks attractive. (A fat white chick?! That’s an automatic 8 for Tyrone irrespective of her looks.)

Hence it adds to fat chicks (usually already) overblown self esteem, and makes your lowly fat 3 think she’s at least a 7.

It's true, This one woman on an app was complaining to me that she got pumped and dumped by some Italian guy just a week ago. Then she let me know in no uncertain terms that I could come to her place and have a good time. So I got there and discovered I'd been fatfished, I mean not that bad but the creative camera angles were used. Anyway, I wasn't going to waste the journey or the boner. I also pumped and dumped and now knew why the Italian guy who was painted as the bad man did the same. I'm sure she continued to repeat the same pattern hoping to land a simp one day.

I like how your mental thought process for fucking some fat chick is “well, I got all this semen saved up… And already spent the gas money… Might as well not make the trip a total waste!”

We’ve all been there kiwi fren. Well most of us anyways.

At least these days with dating apps, there’s a good chance your friends will never see her.

 

[Mr Bunny]

Men don't communicate that way and often don't understand that.

We do, but it's done under a certain contexts, like bitching about work with your barber. It's done with a person that you're on friendly terms with but not close enough that both parties know that there's nothing that's expected from them.

Your 2nd half coming to you about a perceived issue is taken way more seriously as default because their problems are also your problems that need dealt with.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

You don't have to go to bars. I found that going to hangout spots on my old university's campus was good enough to start socializing and interacting with people again.

Yeah....that ends when you stop being in your early 20s. You get very "Hello fellow children!" vibes. You should generally stay away from colleges if you're 23+ and not in graduate school. It's just not your scene anymore and the sooner you admit that, the better.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

Yeah....that ends when you stop being in your early 20s. You get very "Hello fellow children!" vibes. You should generally stay away from colleges if you're 23+ and not in graduate school. It's just not your scene anymore and the sooner you admit that, the better.

College pussy is very nice. Plus maybe it's because I'm a PhD so I still technically belong there, but I can make firends just fine. Friendships or any sort of relationship really isn't a function of age (except for romantic relationships, where both the man and the woman should be 18+). I don't see why you should artificially limit your happiness due to social rules that don't really applu anymore, don't make you happy and are basically unenforcable. Just live life and enjoy it for what it is. People put all these arbitray rules and such on life without realizing how much variety there is in it. What pickup skills/lines doesn't work for one woman may work for the best woman of the bunch and vice versa. There's no real algorithm or method to life because it's not a problem to be solved: it's to be experienced.

Idk. It feels like you guys are putting too much value in societal faux pas rather than what makes you happy. In a saner society, that would make sense, but since we're in clown world, there's no need to not enjoy yourself a bit and have a decent bit of romanticism in life before you die. The world is collapsing, why not have a little fun while Rome burns?

 

[JamusActimus]

Dating apps have become nothing but Sandbox tiers unless you're attractive and pay for it. Some will even sandbox if you're paying for it and not attractive enough and will drain you of money. Dating apps worked back in the day because you could send out dozens of messages to everyone as dating is a numbers game. That wasn't profitable.

Tinder never worked for me when I switched to grindr however.....

 

[Lurker Child]

College pussy is very nice. Plus maybe it's because I'm a PhD so I still technically belong there, but I can make firends just fine. Friendships or any sort of relationship really isn't a function of age (except for romantic relationships, where both the man and the woman should be 18+). I don't see why you should artificially limit your happiness due to social rules that don't really applu anymore, don't make you happy and are basically unenforcable. Just live life and enjoy it for what it is. People put all these arbitray rules and such on life without realizing how much variety there is in it. What pickup skills/lines doesn't work for one woman may work for the best woman of the bunch and vice versa. There's no real algorithm or method to life because it's not a problem to be solved: it's to be experienced.

Idk. It feels like you guys are putting too much value in societal faux pas rather than what makes you happy. In a saner society, that would make sense, but since we're in clown world, there's no need to not enjoy yourself a bit and have a decent bit of romanticism in life before you die. The world is collapsing, why not have a little fun while Rome burns?

Those rules are there for a reason. The problem is only that people are too strict with them as you say. In general, I would say: don't care about being awkward but know when you aren't welcome. Like anything social in life, it's an intuition. Something you can't read in a book. You can only learn it through hands-on experience. Generally I agree with your sentiment though. Understand when your unhappiness is due to a problem you need to fix or an autism you need to purge. Though I disagree with your attitude of "things are going to shit, who gives a damn". It's an understandable notion, in some sense respectable, but too many people having this notion, I'd say, is part of, if not precisely, what put society in its current state - be it with atomic bombs or global warming or cultural revolution as we have now.

Was talking to this girl; note, not for dating. She was a friend and I'm not into women. But anyway, we talked and she mentioned this err...sad tale about some friends of hers who were going out and how the boyfriend got some severe medical issue that left him bedridden with his organs in a bag.

His girlfriend coped by starting affairs and having sex left and right because "she really needed the intimacy and he couldn't fulfill her while he was sick. He forgave her after a while. True love."

I am still floored by that story and mortified by how she justified it.

One time I was working with this woman who was about my age (mid 20s) and when her marriage fell apart with her second husband (which, honestly, shouldn't have even begun), she proceeded to do precisely that, have affairs and fuck a bunch of guys. To the point that at the time I told myself, "When a man is distressed, he crosses his arms. When a woman is distressed, she opens her legs." I won't go into details, but seeing that play out in front of me, watching her attitude confessing all about like I'm some priest, is why unabashedly I call her a whore. I'm not even one to call women "bitch" or "whore" unless they really are one, she just really is one.

Never had a girlfriend (per se), but girls I went to college with or have worked with have told me that I am deeply obsessive and that's a huge red flag.

lol what does that even mean? That you are autistically passionate about something they can't care about? "Ooooh hmmm he's cute but he has a codex astartes on his bookshelf. Kinda giving off serial killer vibes tbh ngl smh."

 

[Ass to Ass]

I'm single because I haven't established myself in life yet. I'm 23 and I've had several relationships before. I'm just not interested in commitment at the moment. I'm more concerned with money.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

Those rules are there for a reason. The problem is only that people are too strict with them as you say. In general, I would say: don't care about being awkward but know when you aren't welcome. Like anything social in life, it's an intuition. Something you can't read in a book. You can only learn it through hands-on experience. Generally I agree with your sentiment though. Understand when your unhappiness is due to a problem you need to fix or an autism you need to purge. Though I disagree with your attitude of "things are going to shit, who gives a damn". It's an understandable notion, in some sense respectable, but too many people having this notion, I'd say, is part of, if not precisely, what put society in its current state - be it with atomic bombs or global warming or cultural revolution as we have now.

I agree. I'm overstating it and kind of being hyper optimistic, but I do think you have to make the oppurtunities you want in life, including with friendship and in romance. There are faux pas that are there for good reason, but a lot of people limit themselves with arbitrary rules that don't help them function and only serves to make them less happy. You have to find a good balance between being a responsible adult and enjoying life the way you ought to.

 

[DenseDeerFather]

I'm not. It's very fucking tough to take care of someone with that level of complications and presuming of course she did take care of him, loved him, spend time with him.

of all the types of infidelity this one is propably the least egregious

I live in a country with public healthcare so he was being treated at the hospital. She did visit him, speaking of her infidelity during one visit), but she did not take care of him until he recovered.

That said... I really can't agree with you. I find almost all manners of cheating pretty awful.

Sure there are exceptions like if you're in a loveless marriage that doesn't fulfill you and just breeds resentment or in an abusive relationship but to the former, I say divorce and to the latter, I say getting out of that relationship should be priority number one, not getting laid

I will say that emotional cheating is less awful to me than good old adultery. I would forgive the former at least.

Guys try all sorts of bullshit that gets them nowhere because they take dating advice from women. And from the male side of things it's like "you have to be chiseled jaw, six feet tall, more money than God, and a bitchin' hot sports car and million dollar house with a garage for the high priced status symbol."

Made me think of a conversation I was in, or rather a rant I was listening to by some guy who said the exact same thing, particularly putting blame on single mothers whom he deemed "delusional whores" because apparently they were not good enough to hold down a man or were too busy spreading eagles everywhere.

It was an interesting rant.

The damage the sexual revolution has done to the West is pretty tremendous.

I was listening to a video about exactly that, or some form of it, through the lens of porn and what it has done to society. Not good fucking things is the short answer.

I was always modestly aware of the mental health crisis with men and the body image problem with women but the video really highlighted how much damage the parasocial bullshit of, say, Only Fans, or radical feminism, or red pill shit dividing the genders or the intense avoidance of shame are to society. In regards to cucking and shit and sex positivity and whatnot.

He didn't touch upon polyamory and open relationships and shit like that, which I personally believe are extremely damaging to the basis of interpersonal romantic relationships.

If she loved him, she wouldn't have cheated. That's bitch talk. If she was the one with medical complications, do you think he would've cheated? No. Probably not. Hold them to your level of standards. That's cuck talk you're speaking.

Agreed.

I don't know if the dude would have cheated or not. But regardless of the gender, I consider it a shitty thing to do.

Also I'm not so sure women give a shit about how much you bench or anything but I dunno, it seems like not being an unhygienic fatass isn't enough.

Woman here so I can only speak for myself and I don't really give a shit how much some guy bench. I think someone who's a borderline bodybuilder or something is personally intimidating and just makes me uncomfortable. Not being an unhygienic slob is enough for me.

That said....I suppose I am in the minority. Noticed a lot of women my age seem to fawn over the most photogenic celebrities and focus very much on how attractive their potential romantic prospects are, outright making comparisons.

Maybe it's just the women in my circle but they become extremely nitpicky after jumping on dating apps, dissing average-looking dudes for the most minor of reasons. While also getting mad that they may get the same treatment.

I suspect it was a power thing because they got glee out of trashing men's profiles and laughing at freshly 18-year-olds hopping on the apps.

I wonder if celebrity crushes may play a factor. All or most of them fawn over that one comedian who's handsome. Think he's called Matt or something, idk. But to them, he's the ideal man. So maybe that's skewing their preferences.

Just for the record, I don't find him attractive personally.

 

[Lemmingwiser]

If she loved him, she wouldn't have cheated. That's bitch talk. If she was the one with medical complications, do you think he would've cheated? No. Probably not. Hold them to your level of standards. That's cuck talk you're speaking

I'm not saying I'd sanction or tolerate it. I'm saying I'm not floored about it.

There's nothing cucked for understanding the motivation of someone's actions.

 

[Nyohoho]

I’m single after my ex decided to cheat on me with some buck-toothed dyke looking bitch.

I ain’t dealing with men after that.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

I don’t know where to find decent women in real life.

Wood Logger

Have you tried "burling down and down white water"?

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

I'm not saying I'd sanction or tolerate it. I'm saying I'm not floored about it.

There's nothing cucked for understanding the motivation of someone's actions.

There is if it's being understanding of someone cheating.

I don't see why you should artificially limit your happiness due to social rules that don't really applu anymore, don't make you happy and are basically unenforcable.

It's because they do apply. You just don't think they apply. They're not enough unenforceable either. Everyone looks at you as the old guy. Eventually it will be awkward. The day will come when that dries up and people will ask "If you're not a professor, student, or worker, why are you here?" And you'll realize this is no longer your scene, regardless of whether you want it to or not. You may not even notice it happen but the places you visit for fun will change. That's just life. But you said it yourself, for now you have a reason to be there.

I ain’t dealing with men after that.

How about a Pokemon with a cute hat?

 

[corn addict]

becouse women scary

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

It's because they do apply. You just don't think they apply. They're not enough unenforceable either. Everyone looks at you as the old guy. Eventually it will be awkward. The day will come when that dries up and people will ask "If you're not a professor, student, or worker, why are you here?" And you'll realize this is no longer your scene, regardless of whether you want it to or not. You may not even notice it happen but the places you visit for fun will change. That's just life. But you said it yourself, for now you have a reason to be there.

Fair enough. I do remember seeing an unemployed 40 year old dude that lived with his dad and was dating a tranny in the anime club in my undergrad years. That shit was fucking grim. I don't know where he is, but I do think he really ought to have found better social circles at that age. I only really plan on hanging out with the undergrads until I finish my PhD in a couple years. Then it's off to greener pastures. I don"t plan on doing that at all.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Dating apps have become nothing but Sandbox tiers unless you're attractive and pay for it. Some will even sandbox if you're paying for it and not attractive enough and will drain you of money. Dating apps worked back in the day because you could send out dozens of messages to everyone as dating is a numbers game. That wasn't profitable

Every single app owned by match group now limits you to 10 swipes a day and their algorithm will ONLY show you fatties if you don't pay.

It's disgusting

It's true, This one woman on an app was complaining to me that she got pumped and dumped by some Italian guy just a week ago. Then she let me know in no uncertain terms that I could come to her place and have a good time. So I got there and discovered I'd been fatfished, I mean not that bad but the creative camera angles were used. Anyway, I wasn't going to waste the journey or the boner. I also pumped and dumped and now knew why the Italian guy who was painted as the bad man did the same. I'm sure she continued to repeat the same pattern hoping to land a simp one day.

"I SAID KEEP THE LIGHTS OFF"

I like how your mental thought process for fucking some fat chick is “well, I got all this semen saved up… And already spent the gas money… Might as well not make the trip a total waste!”

We’ve all been there kiwi fren. Well most of us anyways.

At least these days with dating apps, there’s a good chance your friends will never see her

Ahaha true

Yeah....that ends when you stop being in your early 20s. You get very "Hello fellow children!" vibes. You should generally stay away from colleges if you're 23+ and not in graduate school. It's just not your scene anymore and the sooner you admit that, the better.

Yep. I can understand grad school as you might interact with the undergrads but once your out..... Yeah.

lol what does that even mean? That you are autistically passionate about something they can't care about? "Ooooh hmmm he's cute but he has a codex astartes on his bookshelf. Kinda giving off serial killer vibes tbh ngl smh."

It basically means you have a nerd hobby that gives them an instant "ick" and dries them up in seconds. You'll also be made fun of in their group chats.

Yes, they'll also see if you look vaguely like a serial killer and will blackball you to their peer group.

Made me think of a conversation I was in, or rather a rant I was listening to by some guy who said the exact same thing, particularly putting blame on single mothers whom he deemed "delusional whores" because apparently they were not good enough to hold down a man or were too busy spreading eagles everywhere.

It was an interesting rant

A lot of single mothers ARE delusional. Maybe not hoes, but leading with "My Brayden is my whole world and you better prove yourself BS" turns a lot of people off. A LOT of men don't want to be raising some loser/felon/deadbeat's kid and I'll be honest, a LOT of single Mom's I've seen are fat and dumpy looking.

It's even better when they want to to start paying their bills or helping them with mortgage payments....

Maybe it's just the women in my circle but they become extremely nitpicky after jumping on dating apps, dissing average-looking dudes for the most minor of reasons. While also getting mad that they may get the same treatment.

I suspect it was a power thing because they got glee out of trashing men's profiles and laughing at freshly 18-year-olds hopping on the apps

Indeed. It's a power thing and being absolutely SPOILED for choice. They're seeing HUNDREDS of guys (virtually) a day, if not thousands.

It's because they do apply. You just don't think they apply. They're not enough unenforceable either. Everyone looks at you as the old guy. Eventually it will be awkward. The day will come when that dries up and people will ask "If you're not a professor, student, or worker, why are you here?" And you'll realize this is no longer your scene, regardless of whether you want it to or not. You may not even notice it happen but the places you visit for fun will change. That's just life. But you said it yourself, for now you have a reason to be there.

Yep. I live less than 3 miles from a ~25,000 person University.

I rarely go there these days because 1. I graduated from its Grad program almost 6 years ago 2. A massive % of its students population is Chinese or Indian FOBs who can be (way moreso Chinese btw) insular and focused on studies, plus the Indians have little cash and usually no transportation for the first half of even 2/3 of their grad programs.

The undergrads, usually local people (from South Asian or east Asian backgrounds) who went there to study and so their parents can keep an eye on them. Whites too but usually more academic ones.

They're also not going to be rolling out a welcome mat for someone 8-10 years older who rocks up looking for some 18 year old poontang.

 

[grimacefetishist]

No cute tomboy autistic femcel girls to keep me company

You see, you guys say that all the time, but I got kicked in the face by boys for trying to talk about video games when I was a little kid. Maybe the people saying this also got head injuries from bullying over video games, but it reads as pretty mixed up signals to me.

 

[Flabba Wabba Jabba]

lol what does that even mean? That you are autistically passionate about something they can't care about? "Ooooh hmmm he's cute but he has a codex astartes on his bookshelf. Kinda giving off serial killer vibes tbh ngl smh."

I guess so. I just get really into things, wasn't sure if that's considered "obsessive" or not, but apparently girls don't seem to like that trait about me. Oh well, not my problem.

 

[Fapcop]

They're also not going to be rolling out a welcome mat for someone 8-10 years older who rocks up looking for some 18 year old poontang.

I don’t know man… If you’re into Asian or South Asians, you may be quite successful.

They’re more used to the whole older man, younger female dynamic. And May also see you as a natural stepping stone to legal status.

Sure there are exceptions like if you're in a loveless marriage that doesn't fulfill you and just breeds resentment or in an abusive relationship but to the former, I say divorce and to the latter, I say getting out of that relationship should be priority number one, not getting laid

The thing is though, people who have been partners for a long time, are usually together for a reason. Even if the spark or sex is gone.

They may have kids together, their lives are intertwined. And most of the time, they make a really good team.

The guy (or the girl) may look for intimacy without wanting to lose what they have.

Fuck, that’s why the guy usually stays with his wife and why affairs partners are often dumped.

There are more important things in life than sex.

As for the chick who slept around on her bedridden partner: WHATTHAFUCK?!?

What a whore! It’s not like they’re in their 60ies and he has incurable cancer or something.