why are you still single - and general discussion of the dating game

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How old is old? Most men I know with any kind of experience would rather have their nuts pulled off with a trailer hitch than date or get married again. The few ones who don't talk like that are too beat down to figure out anything other than surviving into the next 24 hours.
You're talking about people who have been married, in love, Dated, whatever
The non-romantic component of female companionship is basically spider to the fly. A random KiwiBro diagnosing you with autism has more positive intentions than that smelly thing in your bed that has no clear opinion about whether you should wake up tomorrow or not.
Idk what you mean by this
 
You're talking about people who have been married, in love, Dated, whatever
When it comes to men I see a pattern where the "loved" and loveless would switch places with the other in an instant and that tells me there's a situation.
Idk what you mean by this
It means I hope you enjoy being devoured by your betrothed because that isn't even the bad part.
 
I've thought about it, imagining myself giving up my moral standards and came to the conclusion that I would not be truly fulfilled if I settled for a whore. I would not be happy. The very idea would poison my mind constantly, to the point of it becoming unbearable.
Even if you are right about there not being such women, (which you are not, it is statistically impossible,) dying alone is still a lesser evil, at least in my eyes. I am relatively young, though, maybe It'll start feeling worse as the years pass by, but I simply couldn't live with constant shame and anger at myself. My first thought each morning would be that of bitter regret. I would eventually kill both her and myself.
Eventually you realize that everyone's just a whore in one way or another whether they know it yet or not, and I'm not just talking about women or what anyone does to get their rocks off. Should you live long enough, you'll be disgraced and humiliated by life sooner or later no matter what you do or don't stick your dick into, so while it's necessary to have some kind of rudimentary code of conduct, taking the delusion of sexual propriety too far will only make you even more bitter and insane than you already are because you'll be chasing after an ideal that functionally doesn't exist for anyone; you need to wake up to the fact that you're already "poisoned" and dying.
 
I'm genuinely so turned off by women these days, and I try to be charitable to every one that I meet, but it always turns into awful leftist politics as a replacement for any kind of interesting conversation or personality. I've taken to going out on first dates where I ask "what do you think of men, just in general?" and proceed to get up and leave as soon as it inevitably turns into whining about the patriarchy and bad experiences with their exes that are now their whole outlook on the species as a whole. I was always taught that the right person will come along one day, but now I'm worried I'll have to settle with somebody who genuinely has less respect and understanding for me.
 
My general observation is that not being an out of shape slob and taking the slightest bit of care about your presentation in your 30s makes you catnip to younger women. You probably won't date them because there is a bit of a gulf in terms of what you want and what she wants unless she's very mature for her age but having casual sex with them is pretty easy. Of course this does hinge on the assumption that you're an in-shape dude who has some shit going for him and not a fat NEET.

Then again I'm not speaking for Americans, you guys seem to be psychologically fucked on a level beyond any other Western nation.
 
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I was always taught that the right person will come along one day, but now I'm worried I'll have to settle with somebody who genuinely has less respect and understanding for me.

They say there are "plenty of fish in the sea" and my retort to that is have you seen what some of those fucking fish look like? Especially like those fuckers from the deep ocean that have mouths full of knife-teeth and even a little wriggly lighted lure bit that's designed to trick you into putting your dick into that mouth full of knives?
 
I'm genuinely so turned off by women these days, and I try to be charitable to every one that I meet, but it always turns into awful leftist politics as a replacement for any kind of interesting conversation or personality. I've taken to going out on first dates where I ask "what do you think of men, just in general?" and proceed to get up and leave as soon as it inevitably turns into whining about the patriarchy and bad experiences with their exes that are now their whole outlook on the species as a whole. I was always taught that the right person will come along one day, but now I'm worried I'll have to settle with somebody who genuinely has less respect and understanding for me.
Your biggest mistake is having 'in general' conversations with women to begin with. Women don't understand that concept.
 
They say there are "plenty of fish in the sea" and my retort to that is have you seen what some of those fucking fish look like?
You're not wrong, and those women are the ones that I find to be the most unreasonable and entitled, but I wanted to redress that this isn't part of my issue and I don't want any woman who happens to be wandering this thread to think its all about looks, because it's not. I'm very comfortable dating a conventionally less-than-attractive woman, and I don't sit down with people and immediately try to politically isolate them because I recognize that every human being is their own creature with bespoke thoughts and feelings, and those are the most important things to learn about someone when you're trying to get to know them long-term. I interpret the issue more as women are largely bland and easily latch onto anything that gives them immediate positivity and validation, which just happens to be the politically-fucked situation in the U.S. and radical feminism, both of which are tools of the ruling class to subjugate the people of this country.
Your biggest mistake is having 'in general' conversations with women to begin with. Women don't understand that concept.
I've been told that I'm "too much" many times, and nobody has been able to properly articulate what that means, I've also had girlfriends tell me "you make me feel stupid" for no other reason than I went into detail for something they asked me about. Women don't want to think too hard about anything, because thinking is scary and thinking might tell them they're wrong sometimes, and thats an unacceptable reality for womankind. Its much easier to dogpile onto things that people globally agree upon and lash out at anything that questions their cozy, entitled way of life. That greentext about women watching movies specifically for the validation they recieve by asking questions about it is becoming more and more of a dystopian reality, and I'm not stupid enough to say this applies to all women, but it applies to most. At the end of the day, I'll agree to check my male ego as soon as you check your female privilege.
 
That greentext about women watching movies specifically for the validation they recieve by asking questions about it is becoming more and more of a dystopian reality,
which one is that?

I've also had girlfriends tell me "you make me feel stupid" for no other reason than I went into detail for something they asked me about
This is almost certainly about how you tell them, than just about what you tell them.

In general, when I'm telling someone something they wouldn't know, e.g. esoteric knowledge, history knowledge, thinking outside of mainstream thinking knowledge, I give them a reason why I can tell them this without them knowing. "I used to think this, but then I saw X, and look it makes sense that it could be false because Y".

Or if I notice someone's ego getting an issue, I might word things like "I'm sure you already know, but men and women have different brain compositions, different amounts of grey and white matter. Our bodies are optimised for different things why wouldn't our brain, right? I was so surprised to learn this..."

At some level it's a little manipulative, but are you really communicating if you aren't manipulating how your message is received?
 
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I'm genuinely so turned off by women these days, and I try to be charitable to every one that I meet, but it always turns into awful leftist politics as a replacement for any kind of interesting conversation or personality.
It's nuts to me how much politics matter to Americans. It's literally always up there as the second or third spot following "My name is-". I don't recall last I heard any European, let alone in real life, talk about politics in any meaningful scope. Even Trump v Clinton less than 60% of Americans voted. The fuck are you talking about in politics if you don't even vote when it's the most dire?

I matched with what I can only describe as the best case scenario in my life; tons of talking, texting, wanting to meet up but not immediately, sending selfies and wanting to voice chat etc. I asked a ton of questions, somewhat genuinely for once, and was often let unanswered or ghosted. A few days pass and then I get that "wanna ask me anything? you don't seem very interested". I've done nothing but give her the easiest fucking balls to hit home with self-doxxing imaginable, but I guess she's used to even more than that. Amidst that enamoring I realized "hold up, we've talked about nothing of substance and I've no actual urge to share anything with her, having seemingly no interests beyond working and finding a man to give her what she failed to achieve herself".

I know it's a sacrifice to live with someone else that in the end is beneficial, but as of right now, I just feel no urge. Other than the instinctual, primal condition of love, there's no rationality in it. I don't recall last I woke up, absolutely itching to send and receive messages, be the absolute be-all for someone else. And every single good match or conversation I've had, it never got even close. Women don't (have any hobbies lmao etc) display anything of interest worth digging into. I've had genuine interest in niche hobbies in women before and I always get this feeling of "wow, this is so easy and enticing". Why? Cause there's something to fucking talk about for once. I can only imagine what it's like talking to a guy who's only interest is working out.
I've also had girlfriends tell me "you make me feel stupid" for no other reason than I went into detail for something they asked me about. Women don't want to think too hard about anything, because thinking is scary and thinking might tell them they're wrong sometimes, and thats an unacceptable reality for womankind.
There's a lot of room to talk at my workplace so I've slowly recognized what makes good talk and what doesn't. I generally don't talk much, but when I do, it's asking about something they said 4 days prior. It's tethering on being 'too much' in comparison to just idle chatter, but I just see no purpose in talking about drama from 2 hours ago or about the fucking weather. I generally bring up things I've mulled over for a few days myself, not asking for input, but putting people in that elementary school situation of "this happened; what do you think?". It's slow conversation with room to think and it doesn't lead anywhere else than subjective expression. Then you chat a bit about that and feel like you gained something, seldomly insight, and move on with your life. You basically invite them to talk, which is what most people consider good conversation: Them talking.

Then I read this:
In general, when I'm telling someone something they wouldn't know, e.g. esoteric knowledge, history knowledge, thinking outside of mainstream thinking knowledge
I immediately clock that as fedora tier ranting which has no place in normal conversation, unless you're 90 minutes into your fourth date and you're scratching that 'what would our normal day be like' territory. It's as if every guy goes through a 'deep conversation' arc in their youth where they see themselves better than talking about the broad that almost hit your car, but that rant isn't about that rant. It's about venting and sustaining relation. What I write off as womanly bitching at work I'd probably appreciate and relate to in a partner (mostly cause I'd give a shit about them). I love reading stories from women about their man doing something spergy or talking about 40k or whatever, and the woman actually shows some measure of interest.

I remember in my teens I always had that "I want a GAYMUR girlfriend who knows MEMES" angle on life, but the older I get, the less I want that. If you're gonna live with another person, you only have to explain the intricacies of wojaks once and they'll know that forever. If they're any good, they'll hold onto that if just to tease you in the future. It takes 30 mins of a random sunday morning to explain something you're passionate about and now they know. You don't need another person who matches you 1:1, the same way you'll hold onto her knitting knowledge just to tease her later on. You shouldn't date an opposite of yourself but hoping people come pre-installed with your tisms sets you up for a boring life.
 
I'm genuinely so turned off by women these days, and I try to be charitable to every one that I meet, but it always turns into awful leftist politics as a replacement for any kind of interesting conversation or personality. I've taken to going out on first dates where I ask "what do you think of men, just in general?" and proceed to get up and leave as soon as it inevitably turns into whining about the patriarchy and bad experiences with their exes that are now their whole outlook on the species as a whole. I was always taught that the right person will come along one day, but now I'm worried I'll have to settle with somebody who genuinely has less respect and understanding for me.
I bet they'll go on Reddit and complain amongst man-haters about how much of a jerk you were, and why men are horrible. :story:
 
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