Why can't women on dating apps hold a conversation?

I could probably do reasonably well on dating apps, I'll just sperg out to random women like I do here on the farms every single day of my life and eventually I'll find one that'll be down to pretend like she actually cares about my 8 paragraphs worth of thoughts on Final Fantasy Tactics
im no expert, but statistically it does seem that if you message enough women, eventually one of them will pretend to care about final fantasy, so why not, go for it.
If you went to an anime convention, you could probably find a woman who makes 8 paragraphs worth of thoughts on Final Fantasy Tactics.

On the other hand, you'd have to go to an anime convention.
im pretty sure there are also fan forums and website for final fantasy fan posting, one of those users on one of those sites is probably a girl. might be preferable to the horrors of an anime convention.
 
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If you went to an anime convention, you could probably find a woman who makes 8 paragraphs worth of thoughts on Final Fantasy Tactics.

On the other hand, you'd have to go to an anime convention.
Maybe so, though then they'll act personally insulted when they find out the only anime I've ever managed to watch more than a few episodes of was Pop Team Epic.
 
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Maybe so, though then they'll act personally insulted when they find out the only anime I've ever managed to watch more than a few episodes of was Pop Team Epic.
it is cliche to recommend it, but honestly have you tried cowboy bebop? i legit dont like anime but i do like this one. and if you are looking for a movie and not a series, the movies akira, nausicaa of the valley of the wind, howl's moving castle, the wind rises,and proco rosso are all very good. but otherwise anime is trash.
 
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For the love of god, Ethan Ralph and bardfinn have kids. If you can't figure it out there is something seriously wrong with you and crying about it here or anywhere else is faggotry.
 
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If you went to an anime convention, you could probably find a woman who makes 8 paragraphs worth of thoughts on Final Fantasy Tactics.

On the other hand, you'd have to go to an anime convention.
But are you sure what you think is a woman at an anime convention is an actual woman?
 
For the love of god, Ethan Ralph and bardfinn have kids.
Look, not everyone's like you.

Not everyone is seeking to wantonly impregnate mentally damaged 18 year olds.

>"I don't wanna date any of these males"
>"And that's before you go on the first date"


I assume it's satire.

But are you sure what you think is a woman at an anime convention is an actual woman?
Millions of years of evolution have enabled you to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency.
 
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it is cliche to recommend it, but honestly have you tried cowboy bebop? i legit dont like anime but i do like this one. and if you are looking for a movie and not a series, the movies akira, nausicaa of the valley of the wind, howl's moving castle, the wind rises,and proco rosso are all very good. but otherwise anime is trash.
I gave it a shot a very long time ago and couldn't get into it, though my tastes have changed a lot, so I might like it now, who knows
 
On Friday night, author Scott Galloway was on Bill Maher's show talking about online dating and how it's been a disaster for men and women alike. He offered some numbers that are fairly illustrative.

The first thing to know is that men outnumber women on dating apps at least two-to-one, and it's worse on hookup apps like Tinder. So the chorus of people saying that women are getting more attention than they can address, and men aren't getting hardly any -- that's pretty accurate. Based on this you would assume that half of the guys are going to be disappointed, but it's actually worse than that.

The traffic data indicates that 90% of the women are ignoring 90% of the men and focusing all of their attention on the most popular 10% of men. So, say in a given town at a given time there are 100 men online and 50 women. 45 of those women are responding to just 10 men, and the other 90 men are competing for the attention of the remaining 5 women. Your can see how a lot of people are going to be disappointed in this scenario.

Galloway referred to the resulting dating patterns as "Porsche Polygamy": the women are only interested in rich/gorgeous guys, who can then effectively use the app as a harem. The women end up disappointed too, because they are seeking relationships but the only men they show interest to are exactly the ones who are going to hump'n'dump them.

So women claim they can't find good men, and men claim they can't get any attention from women, and they're both kinda right. Like many things, it is a system that works pretty well for the very very privileged, and is kinda shit for everyone else.

E: there's a lot of advice in this thread along the lines of "lose 20 pounds and dress better and you'll get more attention". That's bringing a knife to a gunfight. You aren't trying to escape the bottom 50%, you're trying to reach the top 10%. The bar for admission is more along the lines of "six-pack abs and a $75,000 SUV". Or better yet, get off your phone and try to meet women offline.
 
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If you hate women, they will notice.
Most of the IRL misogynists I've met thru the years had no problem getting laid, but then again they were all at least 8/10s unlike the goblins you find online. In fact I've never have heard more unironic misogyny than among rich good looking guys, but they had a line of women waiting to suck them off so I guess in those cases it don't matter.
I tried dating apps for a while. 70% of the girls on there seem boring as hell.

Like their "hobbies" are

Netflix and Chill
Travel
Concerts
Restaurant


The next 20%

If you like Trump fuck off
Radical Feminism
Social Justice
BLM ACAB!


So basically if you have everything together, look decent, nice house, car, career. You maybe have a shot at the 10% leftover.
I wonder how many women in places like tinder, besides the ones obviously looking for followers or even subscribers, are the kind that have zero chances of getting any out there so they stay online because they know the desperation is higher there and men wont avoid them for their insufferable attitude or mental issues since they got nothing else.
On Friday night, author Scott Galloway was on Bill Maher's show talking about online dating and how it's been a disaster for men and women alike. He offered some numbers that are fairly illustrative.
You mean this video?

Havent seen real time in a while but that has to be the video with the least amount of applause/reaction ever. Even maher's audience of centre-left liberals can't give less of a shit about this problem it seems.
 
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Where are the "real" women on dating apps anymore? All I meet are:
* Asian women who aren't in my city (despite their profile saying they are 2 miles away) but don't worry they will totally come here next week month soon, in the meantime make sure to follow their financial advice and imvest in their business
* Totally real and legitimate Russian models who would come here to have sex with me, it's just they are 100€ short from getting their visa and paying their flights.
* Totally real women which I get liked by, but as soon as I match (I'm taking nanoseconds) they will unmatch.

I'm sure there's real people here and not a scam.
 
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On Friday night, author Scott Galloway was on Bill Maher's show talking about online dating and how it's been a disaster for men and women alike. He offered some numbers that are fairly illustrative.

The first thing to know is that men outnumber women on dating apps at least two-to-one, and it's worse on hookup apps like Tinder. So the chorus of people saying that women are getting more attention than they can address, and men aren't getting hardly any -- that's pretty accurate. Based on this you would assume that half of the guys are going to be disappointed, but it's actually worse than that.

The traffic data indicates that 90% of the women are ignoring 90% of the men and focusing all of their attention on the most popular 10% of men. So, say in a given town at a given time there are 100 men online and 50 women. 45 of those women are responding to just 10 men, and the other 90 men are competing for the attention of the remaining 5 women. Your can see how a lot of people are going to be disappointed in this scenario.

Galloway referred to the resulting dating patterns as "Porsche Polygamy": the women are only interested in rich/gorgeous guys, who can then effectively use the app as a harem. The women end up disappointed too, because they are seeking relationships but the only men they show interest to are exactly the ones who are going to hump'n'dump them.

So women claim they can't find good men, and men claim they can't get any attention from women, and they're both kinda right. Like many things, it is a system that works pretty well for the very very privileged, and is kinda shit for everyone else.

E: there's a lot of advice in this thread along the lines of "lose 20 pounds and dress better and you'll get more attention". That's bringing a knife to a gunfight. You aren't trying to escape the bottom 50%, you're trying to reach the top 10%. The bar for admission is more along the lines of "six-pack abs and a $75,000 SUV". Or better yet, get off your phone and try to meet women offline.
I think the biggest problem at its core is that people, men and women, aren't getting the instant negative feedback they would get from live interactions.

Of course it's women that control the interaction and get to decide what happens. But they don't mingle and see that they really don't have a chance to capture that one guy's full attention (for more than one friday night). She doesn't get the discouragement of seeing 3 models with him in the same room.

Though it's true that women would rather share an alpha than have their own beta, this is a generalization and seeing the other women around him can be a sufficient blow to her confidence that she wouldn't waste her time on shooting too high. She just sees a profile from someone that already sent her a message. It seems like it's just the two of them, so she obviously is getting his attention.

For men it's similar. If you don't wade through a sea of rejection, which is the truth for most men since forever (there is a reason getting a hookup was called "getting lucky"), then you don't develop the skills to learn to strike the iron when it's hot. It's easy for men to have too high standards too, because men almost always date down. Because it's not and never has been an equal system. Men date down, because women want someone better than themselves and women get to choose.

Online dating creates illusions, whisps of reality where men and women are following sirens of the unattainable. It's a mirage of an oasis and it makes the regular world looks like a desert.
It's attractive because of the high promise and low investment. There was a brief time where using online dating was being ahead of the curve, but now it's a mousetrap for most.

E: there's a lot of advice in this thread along the lines of "lose 20 pounds and dress better and you'll get more attention". That's bringing a knife to a gunfight. You aren't trying to escape the bottom 50%, you're trying to reach the top 10%. The bar for admission is more along the lines of "six-pack abs and a $75,000 SUV"
Sure, but wouldn't your rather have a knife than nothing? Nature is brutal and dating is nature. You're not going to be reincarnated as a better genetic version. You can give up or give it your best and see if you can compete.

The reason people point to these is because they're universally attainable, but there are a lot of things one can do that aren't.
 
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Aren't people in general just sort of dumb and interact with things on the most surface of levels? The amount of "want sum fuk?" conversations I got on dating apps was tremendous enough to make me pretty short while on the apps with just about anyone.

I feel bad for people trying to date now. Organic is better, but everyone is socially retarded now, and irl experiences are so atomized even when they do exist that I don't know how people do it these days.
 
Online dating doesn't work.
For every success story there are ten or twenty more complaints about fake pics, deceiving angles, lies, etc.
I gave up on it years ago. Now with everyone who has a phone having internet access, I can't imagine how awful it is.
Work on yourself until you are comfortable approaching the opposite sex in person.
At least you will know what they look like.
 
I feel bad for people trying to date now. Organic is better, but everyone is socially retarded now, and irl experiences are so atomized even when they do exist that I don't know how people do it these days.
You don't.
Go out there in the real and tell me how many young people aren't on their phones 95% of the time, like while driving or eating.
Havent seen real time in a while but that has to be the video with the least amount of applause/reaction ever. Even maher's audience of centre-left liberals can't give less of a shit about this problem it seems.
Nobody cares about men except other men usually. Not until there's a collective "Oh shit" moment in society and even then there may not be.
 
Nobody cares about men except other men usually. Not until there's a collective "Oh shit" moment in society and even then there may not be.
Not even most other men care, even some of the ones directly affected deny this. And the collective moment its already happening, thing is this phenomenon goes completely against the current ideological standpoint that no matter what men simply can't be victims, thus just attempting to solve this issue is asking for the kind of trouble that can end your entire career.
 
Not even most other men care, even some of the ones directly affected deny this. And the collective moment its already happening, thing is this phenomenon goes completely against the current ideological standpoint that no matter what men simply can't be victims, thus just attempting to solve this issue is asking for the kind of trouble that can end your entire career.
It's a hard problem and one that seems to have been plaguing the west for a while.
Liberty, egality, fraternity or death is the cornerstone of a republican system of government. But how can one help a brother who refuses assistance? How can one recieve help if his brothers refuse to help him?
 
Not even most other men care, even some of the ones directly affected deny this. And the collective moment its already happening, thing is this phenomenon goes completely against the current ideological standpoint that no matter what men simply can't be victims, thus just attempting to solve this issue is asking for the kind of trouble that can end your entire career.
That then begs the question what will be the thing or set of things that set off this powder keg?
 
My response rate on like OKCupid is like 30%-40%. I just have impossible standards for myself and for other people so I end up meeting very few back when i was on it. But I like talking with new people, before journalism became a corporate, SJW-infested shitshow it was my dream job. I've had so many long convos with women on dating sites. Weirdly enough they get even more intense when you dont meet them within a short time in some cases, cause then they "trust you" as some friend who isn´t into just getting laid asap and start spilling the beans on their private life like there's no tomorrow in some cases. Women have weird stories compared to guys, I Swear to god, our lives are much more simple.

Give people bait, let them hook on it, then let them talk about stuff.
Like see what they get triggered by, throw out stuff, ideas/experiences youve had/ask them about themselves, then when you got them on the line keep them thrashing.

I usually comment on something in their profile and then relate to it with something of my own and then ask a follow up question.
But I mean it depends on if you´re in it for game or in it for a relationship too.
 
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